to be a little bit worried that I had to educate my friend on ALL the BNP's manifesto?

[PersonalClown]

Yes I know... another BNP issue BUT
I must admit I was just a little concerned on who many people have NO clue about all the BNP's views.
Firstly I had to argue the point of voting (They're all as bad as each other!) How else are they going to be told what we will and will not accept if we don't use our powers?
But I was more concerned on how many people were considering voting BNP on the whole 'British Jobs for British workers' views etc without realising the whole truth about the Holocaust denying, subserviant women, homophobic, useless C*nts they are!!
Ahhhh Rant over. I thank you.

[Tortington]

i don't know their manifesto

tell me

i know they ae racist sexist homophobic cunts - and i shant be voting for them - but go on tell me

[Tamarto]

But that's the point of them, they prey on the fact that the masses vote for them because of things like the british jobs etc.

I'd find it more worrying if your friend ignored you after you explained it all.

[Unicornvomit]

thing is, none of the parties ever deliver on their manifestoes, do they, so why do people believe the BNP can actually deliver??

[SameBoatAsYou]

TBH I know none of their manifesto.

TBH all I know is that they get bad press and I don't know why,

[Ninkynork]

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/762492-BNP-white-paper-on-family-law-adulterous-mothers-to-automati cally

The link at the start of this thread explains a bit more.

[Ninkynork]

Sorry, this is the actual White Paper:

www.scribd.com/doc/15109757/BNP-White-Paper-on-Family-Law

Seems pretty scary to me.

[SuperWasher]

Our neighbour has a BNP poster up. DH (black African, not even a citizen yet) has chatted to this guy several times in the street and always got on well with him. On Monday dh went outside and neighbour said "alright mate?" so dh went over and said "No, not really, I'm a bit upset by that poster you've got in your window" Neighbour explained how "I'm not racist but..." loads of his mates were out of work and it was down to foreigners taking their jobs. DH then pointed out that he was one of these foreigners to which the neighbour said "Oh it doesn't mean people like you"

[tiredemma]

Just read that bumpf about Families etc- Fucking hell- they HATE women non?

[Kayteee]

Ignorant, hateful bastards.

[PersonalClown]

Sorry... wandered off to start Dinner!
TBH I don't know it all, only what I have read online when trying to find some information to make an informed vote in the EU elections but the basic jist was the right to shoot illegal immigrants and criminals, a ban on foreign imports, making inter-racial maariages illegal, anyone with TB or AIDS to be deported(WTF?) Martial status of children parents when applying for schools to identify potential difficultes and many others I'm sure.

Tamarto-I think you got it just right... She'd heard the main lines/issues and thought 'They can't be as bad as everyone makes out'.

[2shoes]

(hello PC how are you, still in love with brian?)

[CuppaTeaJanice]

I was amazed at how many parties there were to choose from this time! Most I'd never heard of, and most had at least one of the words 'British', 'English' or 'Democratic' in their titles.

[londonone]

ninkynork - just out of interest which part of that is actually scary?

[PersonalClown]

Hey Shoes.Yes!!
Let's face it. He is the Love of my Life!! and this will make you jealous..
If everything goes to plan for me..BACKSTAGE AT SONSIPHERE BABY!!!

[2shoes]

oh tell me more

[Noonki]

YANBU I just have come in from the garden having explained for ten minutes to my sikh neighbour who they are and why she should get her butt down to vote.

Quite pleased she hasnt come across them but still abit at her total ignorance as to who they are. (She has never even heard of them)

[katiestar]

Ok well can I just start by saying that I am definitely NOT a BNP supporter. I have just looked through their white paper and I can't see anything mysogenistic about it ? .It says shared residency 50:50 should be encouraged ,if the couple can't agree on that then the no-fault parent WHICHEVER THAT MAY BE (so long as their is no history of DV or chikld abuse) would get custody.
If people want to make sure the BNP don't get in , we have to tackle them on un acceptable issues not twist reasonable policies into something hysterical.That just plays into their hands.

[2shoes]

end of hijack tell me on here

[crokky]

I know someone who was thinking about voting BNP - here's why: (she's not going to so don't worry!)

she thought that labour (or whoever really) liked to waste money on wars that weren't related to britain and she thought that the BNP wouldn't spend money on this sort of thing, instead they would pump it into the NHS or education or something worthwhile. so i should think not all bnp voters are crazy racists, which makes the party all the more dangerous.

[Ninkynork]

Well for a start, what happens to women who find themselves pregnant who don't happen to be divorced or widowed? No housing or benefits so - what? Workhouses?

Plenty of people don't agree that 50 / 50 residency is in the best interests of the child. A child needs a home, a base, stability.

As is says on the thread, who decides what an adulterous union is? Chap is violent, woman gets rid, meets nice man but can't start a new relationship until divorce as she'll lose her children.

Unmarried couples seen as inferior.

It all seems quite, "Republic of Gilead" to me.

Hope that answers your question, I won't be drawn further, it's Hell Hour in the NN house but I look forward to reading the discussion later.

[londonone]

Ninky -

Just to answer your points

"Well for a start, what happens to women who find themselves pregnant who don't happen to be divorced or widowed? No housing or benefits so - what? Workhouses?"

IMO there is no reason for anyone in the UK today to "find" themselves pregnant and be compelled to have the baby. If people are going to have a baby they should have the wherewithal to look after it.

"Plenty of people don't agree that 50 / 50 residency is in the best interests of the child. A child needs a home, a base, stability."

And conversely many people agree that fathers are discriminated against by the courts in family proceedings.

"As is says on the thread, who decides what an adulterous union is? Chap is violent, woman gets rid, meets nice man but can't start a new relationship until divorce as she'll lose her children."

Under current rules people find themselves having to compromise on relationships etc in order to maintain benefits or maintenance payments etc.

"Unmarried couples seen as inferior."

Well on that basis you must find all religions scary. Many many people believe that the best place to bring up children is in a stable married relationship.

[BouncingTurtle]

I find it amazing that a few of my dad's acquaintances (there not really friends just people he has done work for) seem to quite like the BNP.

My dad is Spanish, lives in Spain and these acquaintances are all English expats.

They clearly don't see the irony. My dad just thinks they are twats, but the work they send his way pays the bills. Thank God I rarely see these people.

[londonone]

Which part? I am not saying in anyway I agree with the BNP but when people just say all their policies are terrifying it is simply lazy. They have many many abhorrent policies but they also are careful to include more "reasonable" policies to lure people in. That is why it is important to dismantle their policies logically rather than just say they are scary and wrong. I was imply showing how the policies that ninky describes simply as scary can quite easily be justified.