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To have emailed our HR person about our ‘Christmas get together’

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Circumlocutious Fri 04-Dec-20 11:20:46

Got an email from our HR person saying that we’ll be having a celebratory in-person gathering at the office (SE). Secret Santa is planned and ‘going out for a few drinks afterwards’. Caveated with ‘only if you’re comfortable of course’.

I responded directly to the email by politely her asking how they’re squaring this plan with Tier 2 guidelines (‘they’ because this idea was cooked up by our CEO). In the meantime, other colleagues have chipped in saying ‘we’re in’. Feel like I’m on a different planet.

DH thinks I should just stay out of it and that it’s nothing to do with me. Tempted to agree but the email has been sent.

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ForTheLoveOfCatFood Fri 04-Dec-20 11:22:54

I would of declined it, I don’t know if I would have challenged hr I’d of just said sorry can’t make it

Isn’t there different guidance for work events?

CorianderQueen Fri 04-Dec-20 11:24:49

Some people are desperate for social interaction (single people, young people living alone). I'd have just declined and left them to it.

missbipolar Fri 04-Dec-20 11:28:14

Well it's to late now but I'd say yes yabu just don't go

Grenlei Fri 04-Dec-20 11:28:57

My eldest's work normally have a Christmas event involving all staff. This year they are doing it by team to keep the numbers down. They are all in the office every day anyway so I don't think an evening out makes much difference - we are in Tier 2 as well.

steppemum Fri 04-Dec-20 11:30:10

CorianderQueen

Some people are desperate for social interaction (single people, young people living alone). I'd have just declined and left them to it.

trouble is, you have to work with them, so if they are doing the wrong thing, then it will impact OP

Grenlei Fri 04-Dec-20 11:30:14

Meant to add, I think your DH was right on this, by all means don't go if you're not comfortable but I wouldn't have emailed HR about it.

HopeAndDriftWood Fri 04-Dec-20 11:30:28

There are different guidelines for business events. I haven’t looked into what they are, but I have a limited company and I’ve been told I can legally have a Christmas get together confused

I don’t necessarily think YWBU to email but I’d have checked that there wasn’t an exception for work things first, so you could be sure that they weren’t complying. And to be honest, if people are keen to go, I’d probably have left them to it. The isolation has been hard for a lot of people, mental health is declining.

NerrSnerr Fri 04-Dec-20 11:30:54

I would ask where they are going for drinks. You can sit outside a pub in a group of 6 but they have to eat a ' substantial meal' if they want a drink. Are they actually aware of the tier 2 rules?

GreyishDays Fri 04-Dec-20 11:32:16

I’m pleased you’ve emailed. It seems like a bad idea.

helloxhristmas Fri 04-Dec-20 11:32:56

I believe this is ok as a 'business event'.

Don't ask me how the logic works though.

Circumlocutious Fri 04-Dec-20 11:36:18

I guess it’s doubly frustrating because for the last 10 days we’ve had a colleague off sick with lingering covid symptoms, missing the majority of meetings etc (contracted covid 6 weeks ago, pretty mildly at the time or so she said). It just seems utterly clueless.

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RichardMarxisinnocent Fri 04-Dec-20 11:36:24

Grenlei

My eldest's work normally have a Christmas event involving all staff. This year they are doing it by team to keep the numbers down. They are all in the office every day anyway so I don't think an evening out makes much difference - we are in Tier 2 as well.

Will they be distancing from each other on their evening out in the same way they do in the office?

Rollingpiglet Fri 04-Dec-20 11:40:09

I can't see the evening out happening, as venues will only let them in if they are from the same household surely? It is going to be pretty obvious if a group of adults rock up together that they are not one household.

AcornAutumn Fri 04-Dec-20 11:42:38

different rules for businesses, I think you'll find this is permitted.

Grenlei Fri 04-Dec-20 11:43:26

@RichardMarxisinnocent from what I understand the SD at work is fairly token, they sit on alternate desks so apart from each other but everyone is using the same printers, kitchen and loo facilities etc and as a mainly male office I suspect the handwashing and sanitising is not tiptop envy - not envy!

That said we're a low infection area and they've had no cases at work at all (office of over 100 people, they went back in the summer). I believe the plan for their Team night out is a meal and drinks, not sure if they will all be sitting 1 chair apart to preserve SD.

loobyloo1234 Fri 04-Dec-20 11:44:13

Would they not mean a few drinks outdoors - which is allowed if its no more than 6? I think YABU to be judgey tbh, just dont go if you dont want to

MorrisZapp Fri 04-Dec-20 11:44:41

Where in the UK are pubs serving drinks in the evening without meals?

UsernameChat Fri 04-Dec-20 11:44:46

It's too late now, since you've sent the email. But there can be so many battles one has to fight at work, I personally wouldn't have bothered making a fuss about this; I just would have politely declined if I didn't want to go.

Business meetings over a meal are allowed under current COVID rules, so there may be similar rules for office Christmas get togethers.

Circumlocutious Fri 04-Dec-20 11:44:58

Would be good to see the guidance where these events are permitted for businesses.

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Lazypuppy Fri 04-Dec-20 11:45:08

You should have just declined, if you aren't happy then don't go, its up to everyone else what they want to do

NerrSnerr Fri 04-Dec-20 11:45:55

'Going out for a few drinks afterwards' doesn't sound like a business event, just sounds like a trip to the pub.

PanamaPattie Fri 04-Dec-20 11:46:06

This is a stupid idea and I do sometimes wonder what planet some people are on. You were right to comment - HR must know it’s an issue otherwise they wouldn’t have mentioned “only if you are comfortable”. 🙄

TonkinLenkicks Fri 04-Dec-20 11:46:35

You think that's bad. The powers that be have decided that in absence of being able to have a Christmas party were going to have a zoom mince pie baking competition. There's 60 of us. And we all have to supply our own ingredients. It's not optional. God give me strength.

Brefugee Fri 04-Dec-20 11:46:44

Just politely decline - they gave you an out with the "if you're comfortable with it"

The rest of them can make their own decisions

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