To expect motorcyclists to obey the same rules of the road as me?

[SoupDragon]

Yet another tw*t haring up close and overtaking right on my wing mirror. It's not like I was driving slowly either. I think I can count on the fingers of one foot how many motorcyclists I've seen that sit patiently behind me, driving at the speed limit (or slightly above, I'm realistic!) like a car would.

Still, at least I'm safe in my car.

[iota]

did someone say something

[SoupDragon]

Nope. Can't hear anyone at all.

[iota]

someone should bump this

[iota]

oh you did

[bookwormtailmum]

Bet you catch them up at the lights though

[iota]

I'm surprised that you can see them from the cab of your lorry Soup

[iota]

actually that reminds me of this story

[IcingOnTheCake]

I have never had a problem with motorbikes since my ex used to drive one and so i can see it from their point of view. He was knocked of 3 times, one where a woman pulled out in front of him on a roundabout and knocked him clean off and he went flying and ended up on crutches. The second one was when a woman pulled out to do a U-turn and knocked him off. The third was someone who pulled out of a Mcdonalds and he went over their car! I was suprised he was never killed

All these people tried to get of it too when it was proven to be their fault.

As for motorcyclists over taking cars well that's just the advantage of having a bike. The disadvantage is you get wet

[IcingOnTheCake]

Actually just to add to that, most car drivers treat motorcyclists like shit. But just remember, if you hit a bike, your car might be damaged etc but your wearing a seat belt. The bike rider isn't so if a car hits them they go flying and end up seriously injured or dead.

I know alot of drivers also fail to check their wing mirrors when they pull out so please remember too always check because there could be a bike coming up beside you.

[SoupDragon]

"As for motorcyclists over taking cars well that's just the advantage of having a bike."

Rubbish. Not when the car is travelling at the speed limit. That's my point. The limit is there for everyone. Weaving in and out in a jam? Fine, that's an advantage of a bike. Ignoring rules of the roads? That's behaving like a tw*t.

And this is rubbish too "most car drivers treat motorcyclists like shit". I'm fed up with all that "think once think twice think bike" rubbish when I keep getting confronted with bikers writing their own rules of the road.

[SoupDragon]

And to cap it all, this particular one today was wearing shorts! I think that sums up how stupid he was.

[IcingOnTheCake]

So it doesn't bother you then that the majority of cars on the roads over take the ones doing the speed limit too? Most car drivers egnore the rules of the roads, that's not just exclusive to bikes.

Just sounds to me like you hate motorbikes finish and using the fact they speed is a very poor excuse because millions of car drivers do that too. You know most accidents on the roads involving a motorcyclists is actually the car drivers fault for not using their mirrors properly and the motorcyclist nearly always comes out worse off.

[Filchymindedvixen]

Some motorcyclists are twats. Just as some drivers are. Bad driving is bad driving, regardless of what vehicle you are in/on. But TBH on the whole, I think I see more rules of the road broken by those on four wheels.

[Filchymindedvixen]

sorry, ex-biker here, married to ex-biker so bit partisan

[IcingOnTheCake]

Exactly, i see more rules broken and more speeding and basic reckless driving by car drivers then i ever do motorcyclists. Alot of car drivers hate bikes for simple fact they can over take you, especially in traffic jams. In fact, if more people had bikes there would be alot less congestion.

[Donk]

On the other hand I can't fit me, DH, DS and the shopping into a motorbike....

[Filchymindedvixen]

and bikers tend to be a lot more aware of what is going on around them, without loud music blaring out, cigarettes being lit, rummaging around in the glove compartment, eating a sandwich, talking on mobiles, applying lipstick or dealing with toddler tantrums in the back of the car while driving

[Filchymindedvixen]

well no donk...hence ex-bikers here

[evenhope]

As an ex biker I'm usually on the side of the bike. However coming home today a bike pulled out in front of me at a roundabout when I was practically on top of him- without looking. I had to brake hard so I beeped him and he stuck his finger up at me. I wanted to chase after him and point out that had I been an old fart with dodgy reflexes I would have hit him in the side and broken his leg and his passengers leg with very little impact on me.

Made it worse he was on a "proper" bike with the proper leathers too, so should have known what he was doing.

[IcingOnTheCake]

Donk i did kinda mean people who didn't have lots of people to fit into a car

And yes, motorcyclists are definatly more aware of what going on around them because they have to be what with all those nasty car drivers on the roads

[Walnutshell]

I have to say, I see a good deal more inconsiderate car than bike users and always give them space to get by and keep the flow of traffic moving.

Anyway, if you are a 15 year old schoolboy, SoupDragon, you should be in the back of the car, not behind the wheel

[IcingOnTheCake]

Adding to that i know there are some twats out there on bikes too!

[gothicmama]

Ummm thought about it and some car drivers behave the same way as biker in op post. Some car drivers have illegally spaced number plates and are not pulled over for it unlike motor cyclists.
I agree with FMV most bikers are more aware of what is happenning on the road than car drivers cos much more depends on their being able to respond to situations.

[LadySnotAlot]

Isn't that the beauty of having a bike? Overtaking when you feel the need? Bikers are taught how to use the road in a totally different way than you would if you were in a car. I should know, it's all DH the motorbiker ever talks about!

[SoupDragon]

Oh right so bikers don't have to obey the same rules of the road as me, they're taught to use it differently. How foolish of me to think they have to obey speed limits and stuff.

Overtaking in jams? As I said - fine. Haring up a hill well over the speed limit, parked cars on either side and overtaking? Twts. Weaving in and out of the lanes on a fast dual carriage way? Twts.

And no, I don't hate motorbikes so your assumptions are wrong there. I hate twttish drivers. Bikers behaving twttishly are in a way worse than car drivers because you can't see them. I only spotted the one today by a flash of his headlight in my wing mirror by which time he was only a few feet off my side. You get more warning of a tw*ttish car driver (especially if they're in a 4x4 )