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to think , if you voted Tory, you have no right to complain about your lack of a pay rise?

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DrSeuss Fri 20-Oct-17 18:24:52

Over lunch a colleague, who I know is a Tory voter because she told me so herself, was complaining that, as public sector workers, we won't be getting a pay rise. It took all my self control to not make a scene in the staff room! What did she expect to happen?
AIBU to want to point out to her that she got just what she asked for?

DumbledoresApprentice Fri 20-Oct-17 18:28:07

I had to bit my tongue the other day talking to a Tory voter complain about the NHS being understaffed. hmm

DumbledoresApprentice Fri 20-Oct-17 18:28:27

Bite not bit

Awwlookatmybabyspider Fri 20-Oct-17 18:29:26

YANBU. She put em in
I've got zero sympathy. Just as she clearly can't have for the sick disabled unemployed or working poor.

MonochromeDog Fri 20-Oct-17 18:29:53


GoingIn Fri 20-Oct-17 18:35:44


purpleangel17 Fri 20-Oct-17 18:35:45

You can support a party while disagreeing with some of their policies.

I think it would have been unreasonable of you to make what is basically a personal attack on her based on her political beliefs.

DailyMailReadersAreThick Fri 20-Oct-17 18:43:22


One of my colleagues who voted Tory was talking about the awful pressure his wife (an NHS midwife) is facing at work.

How thick are these people?

MyOtherProfile Fri 20-Oct-17 18:45:50

You can support a party while disagreeing with some of their policies.

You can but when they start implementing their policies you have to remember that you put them in there.

Madbengalmum Fri 20-Oct-17 18:46:43

Clearly not as thick as those who would rather our country look like a Venezuela very soon!

Jessikita Fri 20-Oct-17 18:48:28

As another poster said, you don’t have to agree with all of a political parties policies to still vote for them.

I know plenty of labour voters who have still purchased their Council house at a huge discount under the Tory right to buy scheme.

ChickenJalfrezi Fri 20-Oct-17 18:49:56

Not this again....

Valentine2 Fri 20-Oct-17 18:50:46

Must be daft to vote them and then talk about it without even mentioning any regrets or comments about her own vote. YANBU.

ClashCityRocker Fri 20-Oct-17 18:51:06

Part of the problem is the pressure on people to exercise their right to vote... 'This is what we fought for', memes of the suffragettes and FB 'I voted' buttons....

Whilst I agree that voting is a democratic duty, there is also a duty to inform yourself and make sure you understand exactly what you are voting for.

Having said that, although too young at the time I'd have probably voted for Tony Blair in 97....and was horrified at the Iraq war.

There's so little accountability in both the media and politics. I sometimes feel you might as well just do ippy-dippy rather than look at the manifestos as who knows what will happen when they're in power.

HarleyQuinnHair Fri 20-Oct-17 18:51:54


mothertruck3r Fri 20-Oct-17 18:52:58

But surely you could also argue that it was Labour who allowed in so many migrants and that pushed down wages, especially in the north? I think both parties (and the Lib Dem) are responsible for the shitty state of the country!

mothertruck3r Fri 20-Oct-17 18:56:50

Labour did a lot of damage to the country between 1997-2010 and the Tories continue to make it worse. Politicians will almost always vote for what is best for them and their families as individuals than for what is good for the majority of people. They are all self serving, power hungry, greedy pigs, that is why they go into politics in the first place!

MissionItsPossible Fri 20-Oct-17 18:58:51

I suppose you're not BU in the same manner if Labour were in government and there was a lack of pay rise and a Labour voter was moaning about a pay rise. But I think the general theme of this thread is supposed to go Labour = good, pay rises, a fantastic NHS and Tories = Evil, forced to work for pennies, and a crumbling NHS they are trying to privatise, amirite?

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed Fri 20-Oct-17 19:25:47

Of course you can

I voted for Labour and moaned that they took us to war and voted for them again after and the knock on effect that has had

There isn’t a party that many support all their policies even those that represent the party in parliament don’t all agree

And if Labour had been in power for the last seven years do you really think there wouldn’t be cuts to services would they would have increased taxes enough to fill the gap in the budgets it would have just been spun a different way

nodogsinthebedroom Fri 20-Oct-17 19:26:59


MadForlt Fri 20-Oct-17 19:29:56

I would have had to say something about the tories. I wouldn't mention her voting habits though.

PinkCrystal Fri 20-Oct-17 19:30:09


strawberrykiss36 Fri 20-Oct-17 19:45:16

YANBU at all! There's someone I see online who says she is agoraphobic. Her family is extremely wealthy, she doesn't work or pay a penny, and it seems like they give her all her money. She's a Tory voter, and I constantly have to bite my lip about how bloody privileged she is, if she was from a poor family she'd be up shits creek with her condition.

Gilead Fri 20-Oct-17 19:54:34

The difference between voting for Tony Blair and voting for the Tories is that going to war (for those using it as an example) wasn't in the manifesto. Pay freezes etc. were.

donquixotedelamancha Fri 20-Oct-17 20:21:16

I don't understand this 'all politicians are bad' lark. The Tories flagship policies for the last 8 years have been about cutting: public services, infrastructure investment, social security (except pensions) and public sector pay.

If you didn't agree with those priorities, surely you would not vote Tory? There was certainly a choice of policies.

If you did vote Tory, presumably you think those things are good for the UK, or at least the people you care about. If you vote Tory and work in the public sector you made a conscious choice to donate your money to the wealthy- through wage cuts to pay for their tax cuts.

The only thing you perhaps could complain about, is that this government is much more incompetent than anyone could have predicted.

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