To wonder why petlovers overfeed?

[Ummmmgogo]

Aibu to wonder why it is considered funny to shorten your pets life by overfeeding it? Why is making an animal fat funny but starving it is abuse? This is not a taat but is a bit inspired by other threads on here, and a bit inspired by the endless pictures of fat miserable pets I see uploaded to the internet. Surely responsible pet ownership is about giving your pet a long healthy and happy life? Can anyone help me to understand why people who would be up in arms at the idea of a dog being rehomed are cool with the idea of it being unable to have a happy and fulfilling life and dying early? I'm not a pet lover just something I was wondering on a boring Sunday.

[DJBaggySmalls]

I agree with you. Some people equate it with love. Also, if you read the labels, sugar is one of the top ingredients in pet snacks, even the meat flavoured ones. If you lick them they taste sweet, not meaty. It can be easier to overfeed than many realize, especially as a lot of people dont seem to exercise their pets very much.

[Medeci]

I think people overfeed their pets for the the same reasons they everfeed their children.

[HermioneJeanGranger]

Because apparently, fat animals (cats especially, for some reason) are "funny".

[FairfaxAikman]

I think part of the problem is that the worst quality foods are the ones with the biggest marketing strategies (Bakers, Pedigree etc). Therefore people think they are giving their pet a healthy "complete" diet when in reality it's sugary processed crap.
I've also noticed the feeding amount guidelines seem to be much higher on poor foods.

[livelyredjellybean]

I think a lot of people are also unaware of what a healthy weight should be for their pets. It boils down to education; people are so used to seeing overweight pets it is 'normal'. Also it is extremely difficult to get unbiased information about pet nutrition as most research is sponsored by pet food companies.

[MardAsSnails]

I have a fat lab. He was horrendously underweight when we took him in, so we were on bigger portions (vet instructed) to get him up to his healthy weight. The vet reckons 34kg for his size, build and age.

He was being weighed twice a week at the vets for a few months. He seemed to skip healthy and went from 24kg, going up in 0.2 or 0.3kg each time until he was 32.6 and started reducing his food quantity. 5 days later he was 38kg. So now we have a stereotypical fat lab. No amount of reduction in his food will make him any less than 36.5kg but usually hovers around 37kg. We've tried. He's old with knackered hips so can't run for too long or do long walks to lose the weight.

So whilst I understand the sentiment on the post, its not always clear cut. I don't have a fat lab because I'm abusing him. I have a fat lab because he's a bit lardy and can't shift it.

[ShatnersBassoon]

My MIL is like this. Her dog is so fat it can't sit, it has to either stand or lie. She overfed her children too, and unfortunately SIL is still overweight (DH, to MIL's dismay, struggles to gain weight so never became the chubby boy she longed for). She thinks feeding is the way to everything's heart .

Also, I think there's an element of not wanting to look poor, with skinny underfed children and pets. The in-laws had a period of being very poorly off when the children were young, and I think that's stuck with her. She likes to give the appearance of never having struggled (by making everyone fat ).

[OddBoots]

I only have a hamster but family have a lab and the dog is always sniffing about for food, even though I know the dog is getting the right amount of food and isn't hungry it tugs on my heart every time I am there. I think I would be a bad dog owner as I would not be able to resist over-feeding.

[insan1tyscartching]

I think as well people's perception of what is a normal weight for a dog has altered. Our dog is at times a little lean down to him not eating much but loving to exercise. He is never underweight as such probably only half a kilo under his recommended weight but I have been told he needs fattening up especially if he has been clipped short even when the vet has said he is in good condition.

[Thefitfatty]

I just got a bollocking at the vets about one of our cats. To be fair, she is massively fat, but the rest of our cats aren't (all perfect weight to slightly underweight). Kitty in question is blind and was quite sick and undernourished when I found her. She eats less than our other cats and so far as I see she never scrounges, she's just lazy and fat....I asked the vet what we could do but she didn't suggest anything we weren't already doing.

[FairfaxAikman]

My lab is currently a little overweight - not by much, a kilo maybe - but I actually have people tell me she's too thin as they are used to fat dogs.

I also have owners of collies (I know a lot as I do flyball) tell me she's more than a kilo overweight as although you can feel her ribs, they are not as prominent as a collies - basically a lot of people who don't own labs don't realise they are supposed to have a subcutaneous layer of fat due to them being bred to be in the ocean off Canada all day every day.

It seems that if you own a lab at least you can't win.

[WorraLiberty]

I agree with you.

Pet obesity seems to be as much a problem in homes, as adult and child obesity.

[Owllady]

I'm overweight and I've never had overweight children or dogs.
I don't judge though as I think if you live in a busy household your dog will be getting fed more than you realise (especially by your teenagers) I watched this program once where the dog was v overweight and the owner had no idea why as she had put the dog on a diet. They set up secret cameras, well they were secret to the dog but how would the dog know anyway?:o and they found that the owners mum who had dementia had been feeding the dog off her plate etc.

[Tippytappytoes]

Mard I had (and still have) one of those! Ex stray, will eat anything vaguely food like. What worked for him was I put him on the raw food diet. Fed fruit and veg as snacks and I'd cook porridge (with water) as a treat (also good to keep on top of rotten bottom). He also goes swimming once a week in addition to all his walks. But I am always going to have to watch him like a hawk - his ideal weight is 40kg which we mostly keep to but he will source his own food if left to his own devices.

[WorraLiberty]

Yes! I saw that too Owllady

[DJBaggySmalls]

Standards of pet animal care are going down because people treat animals as a consumer commodity, and dont realise whats involved in looking after them well. They project their feelings on to the animal.
But when people suggest animal management could be taught as a subject in schools, there seems to be a hard core who are absolutely against it. But its no different from teaching child development and care.
People think a racing greyhound is thin and underfed, I've even seen claims they chase the fake rabbit because they are hungry!

[SerialReJoiner]

Our cats are such scroungers. They are constantly after food - we try to feed them a bit less than what the tin recommends, and leave the food.out until they finish it off. Some days we don't feed them at all, to mimic their eating patterns in the wild. They don't like it, but they are a healthy weight with glossy fur and are very active. I don't think it's harming them at all. The vet warned us that once they were spayed they could put on weight easily, and I don't want to let that happen. They rarely have treats but we do leave a small bowl of dry food out for them to nibble on.

Frankly, I wish it was as easy to regulate my children's intake as it is the cats'. School, friends, family members etc, all seem determined to shovel crap down their throats at every opportunity.

[Owllady]

Oh yes, cats must be even worse! We used to have a visiting cat at my old house (we never fed him) but I can see they go from house to house being spoilt by various owners.

It made me laugh worra :)

[WorraLiberty]

There's a poster on the wall at my vet's, which really opened my eyes (I've had a look online but can't find it).

It lists the dog 'treat' on one side and lists the human calorific equivalent on the other, in doughnuts.

So a small cookie = 2 and a half doughnuts etc.

A real eye opener.

[Owllady]

Actually my last post is quite telling using the word 'spoilt' it's in our nature to nurture isn't it and I suppose spoiling is part of that too. It's not a very good thing though, is it? But I can understand it to a degree

[Owllady]

They have the dogs ribs poster at my vets! You can feel its ribs to see if yours is the right weight (not sure it covers all breeds mind you) it's quite useful as my collie turns into a neurotic furball and thinks the scales are her enemy

[MissDallas]

One of my dogs is very fat and I don't know why. We have 2 dogs, both rescues, one skinny, one fat. They both eat the same. We give them Royal Canin and stick to what it says on the packet, so I don't really know what to do.

Poor dog, she tries to jump up when we get home from work and can't do it anymore.

[PageNowFoundFileUnderSpartacus]

Gorgeous dog Fairfax.

I agree in principle. I think it's a symptom of the general trend of anthropomorphism that seems to becoming more prevalent. Some people feel guilty if they deny their pet when it sits there with its cute "please feed me, I'm practically wasting away" expression.

Sometimes it can be hard to control though. I'm in a very similar situation to MardAsSnails with PageDog. Took him on as an older underweight rescue, followed vet advice re feeding, then after he'd been with us for a little while there were a few days in which he went from "still a bit ribby but starting to look better" to "barrage balloon". We are actively trying to slim him down again and he has lost a bit of weight so he just looks a bit fatter than ideal rather than dangerously obese, but it has been a much longer process to get him to drop a little bit than it was to inadvertently fatten him up! He already had arthritis when we got him and is slowing down further so exercise is limited and we're in that vicious circle of knowing excess weight is bad for his joints but struggling to get it off him. He's on the minimum recommended feeding amount for a dog of his breed despite being naturally bigger framed - taller, bigger head etc - than the breed average.