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To think the Kardashians are not that bad...

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Leanback Wed 16-Nov-16 16:27:37

I'm prepared to be absolutely flamed for this but here goes.

I think the kardashians are vain and wealth obsessed. However the general publics reaction towards them seems to be they are hideous awful people who commit heinous acts. Am I being unreasonable to think they aren't that harmful. Watching the show they are very loving and supportive of each other. Kim has spoken out quite vocally before about social issues such as racism and the Armenian genocide. Sure they are self-obsessed, but I think I'd rather spend time with them than some of the abusive male celebs who are put on a pedestal and whose actions are exonerated.

Pestilence13610 Wed 16-Nov-16 16:31:57

They are sending out the message that if our DDs have plastic surgery and pose for photos with very few clothes on then life will be just fine. This may be what you want for your DD but I have other ideas.

Maudlinmaud Wed 16-Nov-16 16:36:25

It's the constant need for attention which I find boring and the whole selfie craze has exploded. People think it's normal. No! I witnessed teens taking selfies in a public toilet a few days ago they looked like kardashian wannabes and very odd.

AChristmasCactus Wed 16-Nov-16 16:37:17

You can always find someone worse. I don't think badness is necessary a relative concept, a lot of people can be different degrees of bad without the need to refer to one as better.

I find them nauseating and pointless.

BeautyGoesToBenidorm Wed 16-Nov-16 16:39:14

Their mother makes my skin crawl - awful, awful woman. A horrible, childish narcissist who seems to view her daughters as commodities.

maddiemookins16mum Wed 16-Nov-16 16:40:20

I just don't get them. Plus I think they're terrible role models for teenage girls (along with all those TOWIE girls etc).

Leanback Wed 16-Nov-16 16:40:51

Is taking selfies that harmful though? It's just what teenagers do these days. As long as they are not spending all day just taking photos is the odd picture of their face going to hurt them?

The kardashians don't do drugs and they are not heavy drinkers, (apart from kourtneys ex). Kris is clearly a very clever business woman and Kim has built a career on her 'brand' which suggests some intelligence.

Leanback Wed 16-Nov-16 16:41:30

That's something I do agree with beauty kris Jenner does treat her kids as a cash cow

maxfielder20 Wed 16-Nov-16 16:47:43

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AChristmasCactus Wed 16-Nov-16 16:48:50

Kris is clearly a very clever business woman

From what I understand, she married into wealth? That's not exactly Feminist of The Year territory, is it. That's the same argument people use about Katie Price, who made herself famous by going topless.

Kim has built a career from a sextape, spending her own interited wealth and taking pictures of her artificially constructed body in sexy poses.

She is not anyone I would ever admire or want my children to look up to.

Leanback Wed 16-Nov-16 16:52:45

My point is that people's response to mentions of the kardashians is akin to people's reactions to fascist dictators. I don't think they are in any way 'awesome role models' I just think the hysteria around how 'awful they are' is too much and often based on misogyny.

AChristmasCactus Wed 16-Nov-16 16:53:49

I don't think it's misogyny to say something negative about a person that happens to be a woman.

BeautyGoesToBenidorm Wed 16-Nov-16 17:00:07

I do see what you're saying OP - there are far worse things than the Kardashians out there, in the grand scheme of things - but as an entity, the concept of them is a bit... silly. I mean, what are they FOR exactly?

Pestilence13610 Wed 16-Nov-16 17:01:43

I think it is more likely to be based on prostituting your daughters is not generally regarded as a positive.
There is more to my DDs than their cup size and makeup thickness.

Nanny0gg Wed 16-Nov-16 17:02:44

There may be worse out there, but there's also an awful lot better.

I agree with Pestilence13610

ShelaghTurner Wed 16-Nov-16 17:12:41

I just can't bear the whole 'look at me' thing. They're a family of oddballs who happen to be rich and we're expected to want to follow their every move? Why? What do they do that's interesting?

BuntyFigglesworthSpiffington Wed 16-Nov-16 17:24:31

Misogyny my eyeball. They're boring as fuck (inc. the brother and Bruce/Caitlyn) and all they do is take selfies. Hopefully their star is on the wane a bit now. But no doubt someone equally as vacuous will be along to take their place.

BuntyFigglesworthSpiffington Wed 16-Nov-16 17:27:00

And as for the youngest sister who's still just a teen but is unrecognisable from all the plastic surgery she's already had? That is so goddamn depressing.

cottencandy55 Wed 16-Nov-16 17:31:20

Yanbu I admire them all I don't see the harm in taking selfies when your incredibly beautifulgrin

Raines100 Wed 16-Nov-16 17:35:07

Yabu they are insufferable

HedgehogHedgehog Wed 16-Nov-16 17:38:08

YANBU i dont particularly like them but i dont understand the level of hatred directed against them. A lot of the things people hate about them are general problems with society that i dont think they can really be held responsible for. I guess people just find it easy to blame someone specific rather than think about the bigger picture. And i guess theres an element of jealousy that these people have managed to make money from seeming to just stand about whilst we all have to work hard... but the thing is, who is funding the Kardashians?! someone must be buying into it, a lot of people in fact and i think the problem is more that society now days likes to focus on a dream of personal success rather than working together to help each other. Rather than wasting time hating the Kardashians perhaps wed all be spending our energy better by engaging with our communities and encouraging people to think of each other and help each other rather than continually screw each other over for the chance to become rich.

MauiWest Wed 16-Nov-16 17:45:54

I don't understand the hatred either. I can't watch the show, I find it too boring, so I simply ignore them. I guess some people like to "hate" someone, if they get out of their way to watch them, follow them on social media and insult them.

I am a bit puzzled by the way some people are famous just for being famous, but I guess that must require some work. They are everywhere. It's sad that our world is more in awe of someone's photo than a beautiful athlete, or even an actress, but here we go.

The one person I dislike is Caitlyn Jenner. It's horrific that you can cause the death of an innocent woman, and still parade in front of the media like nothing happens. No decency whatsoever.

BoneyBackJefferson Wed 16-Nov-16 18:11:04

I don't know the kardashians so I don't hate them.

But I do hate what they stand for.

MadisonMontgomery Wed 16-Nov-16 18:13:18

I don't think there's anything actually bad about them - they seem perfectly pleasant. But I don't think they've done anything particularly good either.

DanielaMorris5 Thu 01-Dec-16 03:44:37

They're not harmful but no useful either. Teenage girls wanna look like K sisters, but I am not sure it is ok to go through plastic surgery at such early age. I think it's not bad to improve oneself ( there are many loyal non-invasive methods, like, but they put their flawless appearances in the centre of Universe and they gain their popularity exactly due the way they look.

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