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to be sick of bloody twerking...

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justmuddlingalongsomehow Sun 27-Oct-13 20:59:43

Miley Cyrus, Lady Gaga.... have some pride for God's sake. You are successful and talented women. Prostituting yourselves for your art is not necessary. There was camel toe tonight. Before the watershed. with simulated shagging on a piano. sad

Why can't a successful woman be successful without having to perform virtually naked?

Pigsmummy Tue 29-Oct-13 14:05:51

I thought twerking was using Twitter for work. Ooops

Akifden Tue 29-Oct-13 14:02:42

Has anyone seen the O2 tracks advert that uses her video? That's in randomly and unexpectedly. It caught us at 9.30am surely that's really wrong . Also jumped from the other thread that's full of empowered women justifying it.

Echocave Tue 29-Oct-13 13:53:06

I find it quite depressing that Gaga feels the need to go on a show like that in her pants. I'd rather she'd been in one of her hilarious costumes (disclaimer: I'm sure she's making interesting, valid artistic points but I just find them laugh out loud funny most of the time).
My dd has just turned 2. I do wonder what the hell pop stars be doing to get attention by the time she's a tween..!

SirChenjin Tue 29-Oct-13 13:25:24

I'm not sure I class MC, Rihanna etc as the performing arts grin

PacificDogwood Mon 28-Oct-13 21:38:14

I don't disagree with that definition of 'morality' but fear that a 'moral' backlash wrt to performing arts might get hijacked by the 'moral majority' of which I am highly suspicious.

happydaze77 Mon 28-Oct-13 20:36:58

Very true SirChenjin

SirChenjin Mon 28-Oct-13 20:30:21

Don't worry about it - the 'get the fuck over yourself' brigade (ditto 'get a life', 'you sound very entitled' 'you sound really precious, do you live a sheltered life' etc etc blah blah blah) can't help themselves on AIBU. It's like a bare lightbulb to moths grin

happydaze77 Mon 28-Oct-13 20:24:04

Agree with the op. I've moved across from a similar thread as I've been to 'get the fuck over myself', by those lovely AIBU ers. Here I am amongst friends!

SirChenjin Mon 28-Oct-13 20:15:04

Why no moral backlash? Surely taste, dignity and a sense of time and place play a part in morality? Quick google definition of morality is 'principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour' - that sounds like a pretty good place to start to me.

As for MC not imitating doggy style - really? I think she's pretty much going for that look - esp. as she seems to need to twerk against something/someone rather than going it alone (as it were, fnarr fnarr).

PacificDogwood Mon 28-Oct-13 19:43:53

Oh, nononono, please no moral backlash, but maybe one of taste? Or dignity? Or a sense of 'a time and a place for everything'??

I thought the dancers in the first video linked to by Mandy were amazing, but still not what I want to see with my dinner iykwim (but then again I also struggle watching these double-jointed circus performers hmm)

lessonsintightropes Mon 28-Oct-13 19:40:38

Ahhhh I finally understand now someone told me to look at the Jamaican twerking videos. I just thought MC was imitating doggy style sex - she wasn't - she was trying to wiggle her arse. But sadly, because it's non-existent, it just looked really weird and unsexy. You need a decent booty to pull it off and sadly neither she nor Gaga has the arse for it.

SirChenjin Mon 28-Oct-13 19:32:09

Oh god I hope so - a kind of moral backlash?

Back2Two Mon 28-Oct-13 18:50:15

I agree with hidden
Let's just get Rihanna, Miley and whoever else is caught up in this race to spontaneously combust from over sexualised performances in a room and let them fight/shag/twerk it out to the death.

Soon, wooley jumpers are going to be pornographic in a weird backlash to all these desperate "empowering" soft porn acts.

NotintheMiddle Mon 28-Oct-13 18:39:52

So it's just shaking your bum?

Tailtwister Mon 28-Oct-13 18:37:22

YANBU OP, it's getting tedious.

However, it's bloody hard to do. I watched a video on Youtube which kind of broke it down a bit and it was impossible.

BurlyShassey Mon 28-Oct-13 18:24:48

Sirchenjin agree with everyone else you said too.

I think before Madonna, the most sexual one was Kate Bush in the Babooshka video, even so, this was a women with talent, and not naked or twerking either!

SirChenjin Mon 28-Oct-13 18:15:27

Agree re Debbie Harry, Tiffany etc. I'm ancient, so my reference points are women like Chrissie Hynde, Annie Lennox, Sinead O'Connor, Kim Wilde, Cyndi Lauper, Patty Smyth, Stevie Nicks etc etc - none of them used this kind of hypersexualisation to sell their music (or themselves...). That's what I mean about the lack of progress by young women in the music business - it's not about talent so much anymore and all about how much flesh you can get out, how many times you're mentioned on Twitter, and how much shock you can cause. Utterly grim sad

BurlyShassey Mon 28-Oct-13 17:57:50

Not that im interested in actually twerking, Mandy, others asked too! thought I was the only one who didn't know what it was!

Mandy2003 Mon 28-Oct-13 17:54:06

Twerkin' good
Twerkin' bad

For *BurleyShassey]]

BurlyShassey Mon 28-Oct-13 17:40:48

Jelly and also Debby Harry. she was gorgeous, and sexy but not cavorting around, writhing and wearing next to nothing to sell records.

agree, I can only think of Adele being the only person around atm that actually wears clothes!

OrangeMochaFrappucino Mon 28-Oct-13 17:30:25

I saw the Tiffany video of 'I Think We're Alone Now' somewhere and she performed in a woolly jumper. You would never, ever get a young female pop star doing this now. It just seems automatic that they must be overtly sexual in their videos/performances, regardless of what they are actually singing about. The only exception I can think of off the top of my head is Adele.

I do think Gaga is a bit different though and although she was performing in a flesh coloured bikini it was very different to Miley's horrible VMAs thing. Although Gaga is often sexual , it's always in a weird way - on X Factor she looked a bit crazed with dishevelled hair and not much make up which I thought was making some kind of point, though I don't know exactly what. She is much more interesting and not a soft porn cliche like Rihanna etc. I find watching the music channels too depressing and frequently shocking to bother with them now so I have to say I don't know precisely what twerking is either...

BurlyShassey Mon 28-Oct-13 17:21:18

sexism??? I meant (thesausrus correcty-thing) sexualisation of women/girls and the 'role models' etc etc.

BurlyShassey Mon 28-Oct-13 17:19:36

no ones explained what twerking actually is though. WHAT IS IT???????

theres controversy over sexism and stuff yet these women choose to do what they do,

yes, they CHOOSE, they have a brain, they have a tongue (Miley grin), they can say ''NO''.

PacificDogwood Mon 28-Oct-13 16:18:34

Oh yes, bring on the post-naked era.


SirChenjin Mon 28-Oct-13 16:12:46

grin Hidden - so true!

It's just grim - it's as if we've stepped through to some parallel universe and into a pornified version of the 1950s. Very weird.

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