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To wonder if champix could be the beginning of the end....

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flowerandrandd Thu 17-Oct-13 07:40:22

Trying to give up smoking, several failed attempts...prescribed champix, read the booklet and I'm astonished, apart from suicidal feelings, there is a chance of heart attack skin blistering, etc etc, I suffer with anxiety and I am antidepressants so I think I'm playing with fire....

Anyone else had champix? Aibu just to bin them?

PlainLardy Thu 17-Oct-13 18:47:47

And here I was thinking this was a nest of vipers...seems it's also a nest of vapers grin

magimedi Thu 17-Oct-13 17:53:16

You'll get lots of good advice there, Lilola & am sure you'll soon be an ex smoker.

I gave up a year ago after 40 years of smoking & haven't looked back.

It's not a bad idea to mix vaping with your regular cigarettes for a week or so as you get used to vaping. The way you puff is a bit different & the first few puffs can make you cough a bit. Good luck & come over to the other thread if you need more advice, lots of very knowledgable vapers there.

Apologies for derailing this thread a bit!

FlapJackOLantern Thu 17-Oct-13 17:51:36

Dilidali is right - the ECigs from petrol stations/shops are absolutely crap. Get thee a PROPER ECig and you won't look back. I smoked 15 a day for 45 years and gave up by buying a DS901 from these people (don't forget to buy some liquid as well):


lilola Thu 17-Oct-13 17:49:27

Thanks v much magi
There is a vape shop on my way back from work actually I'll pop in and see what they can do!

magimedi Thu 17-Oct-13 17:48:25

Sorry - forgot to make the link live:

PS I live in Sussex & can recommend a good shop if you are near. PM me if you want.

magimedi Thu 17-Oct-13 17:46:54

lilola I have used this mail order firm & am delighted with them. Try one of their starter kits or even give them a ring - they are very helpful.

Or see if there is an e cig shop near to where you live & go in & have a chat, they will certainly be able to help you.

BadgersRetreat Thu 17-Oct-13 17:06:05

Champix worked for me - and i had tried most things. Though e-cigs hadn't been invented then!

I took it for 6 weeks but had to stop as it had an adverse affect on my moods. I sobbed all over my boss at work and went home and sobbed in the bath for two hours, for no reason. Very odd. DH said i had seemed quite PMT like in the lead up to that day. I soon got back to normal though, and have not smoked for 4 years.

I think I'd try it if i were you. Maybe keep a mood diary though to keep an eye on yourself. We all react differently to drugs.

lilola Thu 17-Oct-13 16:51:30

Is anyone willing to summarise that 'evangelical about e cigs' thread for me and just tell me which brand is the best? Please? It's so long and I got confused by the variety of brands

PlainLardy Thu 17-Oct-13 16:19:27

flower I'm taking the same ADs as you. I completely get what you're saying about your mental health being more important. But you don't know that Zyban/Champix will make it any worse unless you try. And if it does then you just stop until you feel you're in a better place mentally.

If your doctor has prescribed it then I say give it a try! Better to try and see if it works than to not try and always wonder. Don't be scared by the side-effects list - EVERY drug comes with a massive list as you'll know if you read your ADs list, they just have to cover all possibilities smile

littlemisssarcastic Thu 17-Oct-13 16:11:15

The effects of Champix wore off for me over a few weeks after stopping taking it. I also had the nightmares, although they weren't too bad.
OTOH, I have been on zyban too and found that amazing, a wonder drug.
I really don't think anyone can tell you how Champix or Zyban will affect you and even you won't know unless you try it.
If you try it and it's not for you, stop taking it.
I think I would prefer to try than to continue smoking without trying.
Any smoker has reservations about whichever method they use to quit, but most methods of quitting are at least worth a try aren't they?

How about the high quality e cigs, as have been mentioned by various posters?

flowerandrandd Thu 17-Oct-13 14:31:46

I really do but if I have to make a choice between my mental health and smoking my mental health is more important that's why stopping using these mood altering drugs just isn't an option x

PatoBanton Thu 17-Oct-13 13:24:03

Ooh x posts!

PatoBanton Thu 17-Oct-13 13:23:51

Do you actually want to stop? Because if you don't then nothing will work.

Flower - can I you want to give up because you really want to or you feel you should?

There is a massive difference between the two IMO.

RM0104 Thu 17-Oct-13 13:18:54

champix made me moody, angry angry etc iv smoked for 22yrs and got an ecig-the liquid one in january and I haven't had a ciggy sincegrin nor will I ever. iv also been saving my ciggy money and used it for a family holiday abroad in august, and already hav enough saved to go book another one for easter

Wildmeanfairlyhipkid Thu 17-Oct-13 11:55:23

My dp took champix, history of mild depression. He'd tried to quit and been a nightmare maybe 5 times before.... He was legend on champix.
That was 3 years ago. Hasn't smoked since.

flowerandrandd Thu 17-Oct-13 11:33:18

Plainlardy congratulations! I have spoken to my doctor who as now prescribed me zyban! Worrying! I don't know what to do, can I ask what ad you are on, mine are sertiline x

PlainLardy Thu 17-Oct-13 11:11:35

Saw this and thought I'd offer a different opinion. Firstly, it's Zyban that shouldn't be taken with anti-depressants, not Champix.

I have been on Champix for the last 2 weeks and also take anti-depressants. I'm on day 4 of not smoking and it's been so easy!

For 2 days before my quit day, I felt nauseous for a while after taking the Champix pills and the taste of fags became really unpleasant. This made me smoke less than half as many as usual.

Quit day itself was a cinch! No cravings at all, just the occasional moment where I felt like I should be smoking, but no actual desire to.

I've had no trouble sleeping, or weird dreams or anything else.

I have previously tried to quit using NRT products (just about all of them!) and failed within a couple of days.

As I said, this is day 4 and I'm still having no cravings at all. I don't even miss smoking. I would highly recommend giving Champix a try if your Dr says it's ok for you.

CaffeineDeficit Thu 17-Oct-13 10:35:44

Well, my DH quit using champix after many failed attempts using NRT. He said champix stopped him having the mood swings he'd previously had when trying to quit. However, he wasn't on any kind of AD or anxiety meds at the time.

If you don't think champix is for you, have you considered trying two types of nicotine replacement at the same time? There's good research evidence that this is more effective than using any one type of NRT alone. You'd want the patch (gives you a steady background level of nicotine) and then something else for a "top up" when you have cravings. The inhalator seems to be more popular than the microtabs or gum as a type of top up NRT among the smokers I work with as it doesn't involve having something in your mouth for large parts of the day.

ScarletLady02 Thu 17-Oct-13 10:33:30

I had no clue what champix was or does, I just knew it was a "stop smoking" thing. It sounds AWFUL! When I first heard the name I thought it was some sort of dog biscuit or something.

Definitely try the E-cigs again, I know many people who have given up using them. When I gave up they weren't around but it honestly was one of the best things I've ever done. Good luck!

xCupidStuntx Thu 17-Oct-13 10:23:06

I asked on my Facebook a few years ago what people thought of Champix and to be honest the replies were overwhelmingly against! I gave up a year ago using e cigs, I invested in a decent one and loads of juice, I thought I'd be using it forever not that I minded but after two months I was finished with it!! Highly recommend them!!!

flowerandrandd Thu 17-Oct-13 09:46:13

Thanks everyone, yes seems unwise to take them to be honest, I don't trust my gp much anyway after being told I had a pulled muscle last year which ended up with me being hospitalised the day later as it was infact pneumonia and sepsis! :/

mouseymummy Thu 17-Oct-13 09:27:33

I was advised to take champix... After reading through the list of side effects (feelings of impending doom anyone??) And talking to friends/family who have tried quitting with them, I declined.

I'm going to try the e cigs once I'm no longer pg, I'm having baby tomorrow and I only smoke 2 maybe 3 a day atm so I'm hoping quitting will be easier!!

mrssmith79 Thu 17-Oct-13 08:52:36

DH was a heavy smoker and used Champix to quit about a year ago. The vivid dreams (read: nightmares) were so bad at one point I ended up spending a week sleeping on the sofa - whilst he was thrashing about one night I got caught in the fray and ended up with a (pretty minor) black eye! He was horrified bless him.
Fast forward to today and we've both been smoke-free for a couple of months by stopping together using e-cigs. Marvellous invention.

magimedi Thu 17-Oct-13 08:43:26

I have had anxiety problems & personally wouldn't use Champix.

Have another go with e cigs - particularly the ones you can refill as you can choose a liquid you like.

See this thread for lots of info (& chat).

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