Sacked or not? Sorry, a bit long.........

[fugitall]

I work for my parents, no contract, £4620 live in.

On Tuesday evening Mum told me they didn't want me to work there any more, they were going to emply a seasonal person instead.

I didn't argue, but phoned a 24hr legal helpline who said they need to follow the due process to sack me, or negotiate redundancy and give notice.

I phoned Mum in the morning to confirm the situation. She said I don't work there anymore, I asked why? Was I redundant or sacked, she said neither, you just don't work here anymore, I said but that's illegal, you need to get advice, she said she wouldn't and I should sue them.

Then, on thursday, dad told my dh that I'd not been sacked, but made redundant and would be paid 2 1/2 weeks pay for my 2 1/2 years service.

Is this legal?

[fugitall]

Xenia, the rift is too bad, I think I want to score points which is a bit silly, so I guess I'll let it lie. (I was employed full time live in)

[fugitall]

Yes I can, and when I feel like it! Although I need to get another job to pay the bills, and they might not be as understanding as my parents used to be about me disappearing at short notice. I do love the zone though!

This is my first first baby!

[Judy1234]

The annual sum is not really worth taking a legal claim for. You are redundant if they don't need someone to do the work any more so I suppose bringing in someone seasonal might imply redundancy - e.g no longer is there work to be done 52 weeks a year just at Christmas but I doubt it.

Also you might get some compensation for them not following procedures. Were you an employee or self employed which would make a difference too. It would be better if you could persuade them to keep you on and heal the family rift.

[Lulumama]

you will be! you will get in that doula zone when you need to ! if you are no longer working for your parents, you can go and spend lots more time with your client, no?

[fugitall]

My client is alone, so I'm feeling the pressure, and desperately want be 100% for her in spite of my bloody parents.

[Lulumama]

oh bless you! hope it all does work out ,i really do [smile[] and a happy birth too, that will take your mind off thigns for a few hours at least.

[fugitall]

I'm incognito, too ashamed to come out.

[fugitall]

I've got 2 sisters, one on side (but quietly), the other seems not to be. I can't ask them to get too involved because thay need to preserve their relationships with the parents. My big sis is buying a static van near here, so I might offer to house sit it until we can get a house for us.

[Lulumama]

oh ! do i 'know' you from DUK or are you incognito?

[Lulumama]

oh ! do i 'know' you from DUK or are you incognito?

[fugitall]

(I'm a doula on call, baby due 02/03 so I can't go far)

[ShinyDysonHereICome]

Oh my you poor thing

Is there another family member who could mediate maybe?

A legal wrangle is likely to be messy not to mention costly although you appear to be in the most rightful, legal and strongest position.

[Lulumama]

[fugitall]

I'm inclined to go in for the pound because the relationship is over for the forseable future.

Thank you for your best wishes Lulu.

[Lulumama]

well, all the best with whatever you decide. i imagine, eitehr way, it is the end of any sort of amicable relationship with your parents

[flowerybeanbag]

You'd have a pretty watertight case fugitall, only thing to consider is what you would get out of pursuing it in the context.

Given everything else that's going on you could view it two ways, either as 'in for a penny in for a pound, may as well chuck the book at them', or concentrate on the huge issues you are already dealing with and not add this to it.

[fugitall]

Regarding the job... I hadn't done anything wrong, I was working as normal, but starting earlier and working in different rooms from them so as not to get into an argument.

They didn't give me any warnings or consultations.

[Dior]

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[flowerybeanbag]

fugitall if you want to pursue the stuff with the job, the unfair dismissal link I posted earlier tells you what you need to do, a grievance first then a tribunal claim, you'd be able to say they didn't follow the statutory procedure, they didn't act reasonably and they didn't have a valid reason for dismissing you.

[cornsilk]

They've treated you so badly.I think you need to seek legal help about where you stand regarding your job and the money you are owed from them. You really need to find somewhere else to go for your own sanity.

[fugitall]

Legal action is for the plot. We've no choice but to take legal action on that problem.

With the sacking it's a grown up way of stamping my foot and telling them they can't treat me like that anymore.

[fugitall]

But it takes time to get out. Renting a house is tricky because we've four kids and two dogs. I can run to my sisters house if it gets much worse, but I can't sleep for bad dreams and waking up with a big gasp. My dh has told them not to speak to me unless he's there, but he has a job to go to.

Since the last thread Mum has started shouting at me. I've only seen her twice and both times she's drawn me into a big row, her shouting, Dad backing her up and me fighting my corner in tears.

The second fight was because my bil told me they'd asked him to do my job the following day, so I went down to their flat to say I'd work of course. Mum ended up telling me I was sacked and we were to move out.

[Lulumama]

it is an awful situation...

what do you want to get out of legal action re the job and the house? compensation? more redunacy ? etc...

and the emotional ramifications

[cornsilk]

I remember you posted about this recently fugitall. It sounds like an awful situation. You need to get away from them really.

[fugitall]

It's because of the background that I'm determined to at least make a stand. We're trying to get a mortgage and they sack me.

We've discovered that they can't withold the land, so the sh*t is really going the fan when they get our solicitors letter.