So confused about sick pay? (NHS)

[Alprrro]

Off sick with heart problem making it unlikely I’ll be back anytime soon. This happened 2 months ago now.

First pay was my normal pay
Second pay was a random £300 less “basic pay” and a months worth of SSP

I’ve worked for the NHS for 3 years (with total 5 days absence before this!) so I thought I was entitled to 4 months full pay, 4 months half pay?

any ideas? I just find it so confusing my payslip has both basic pay and statutory sick pay??

[luciaann]

NHS is full pay for 6 months I thought then half pay for 6 months. I'd contact your manager. Hope you get well soon x

[hedwigismyowl]

Depends on ur NHS Trust. In mine, you only get 6 months full pay 6 months half pay if you've been in post >5yrs.

Depends on your length of service. Generally it's 1 month full pay for each full year you've worked.

[Biscuitandacuppa]

@hedwigismyowl is correct, you only get 6 months full pay after 5 years in most NHS trusts. Might be worth pausing your pension for a few months to help with take home pay short term.

[hedwigismyowl]

Plus all your sick pay in the last 12month counts. So if you've already been off a week, that's one week less you'll have for this episode of sickness.

For most sickness things, it's a rolling 12 month period so HR/ payroll will go back 12 months from the date chosen, it's not a set period like annual leave years.

[Alprrro]

RCN Agenda For Change states:

During the first year of service One month’s full pay and two months half pay

During the second year of service Two months full pay and two months half pay

During the third year of service Four months full pay and four months half pay

During the fourth and fifth years of service Five month's full pay and five months half pay

After completing five years of service Six months full pay and six months’ half pay

I guess I just don’t understand the mixture of my usual pay and SSP?

[hedwigismyowl]

That's AFC though. Each foundation Trust is able to set its own terms & conditions so you'll need to contact your own manager/ HR/ payroll to see what yours is

[Alprrro]

@hedwigismyowl

Plus all your sick pay in the last 12month counts. So if you've already been off a week, that's one week less you'll have for this episode of sickness.

For most sickness things, it's a rolling 12 month period so HR/ payroll will go back 12 months from the date chosen, it's not a set period like annual leave years.

5 days in 2021. Even so, the guidelines would still suggest I’d get 4 full months and then 4 half pay, with the 5 days deducted, surely?

[TheRookie]

If you're off sick, youll get SSP but it should stil Equal you normal pay. Is the £300 less to do with not working enhanced hours? IE nights and weekends?

[hedwigismyowl]

Again, you'll have to look at your own sickness policy as each foundation trust is able to set its own T&Cs.

[Alprrro]

@TheRookie

If you're off sick, youll get SSP but it should stil Equal you normal pay. Is the £300 less to do with not working enhanced hours? IE nights and weekends?

No, I work normal hours in a day practice

[mrsm43s]

Is your pay actually £300 down, or is it just that you have a SSP as part of your monthly pay? I work in the public sector, and whilst I get 6mths full pay/6 months half pay, my employer still claims SSP on my behalf and then offsets it against my salary, as this saves them money. The actual amount in my pay packet is the same, but its made up of basic pay, SSP and occupational sick pay which tops up the SSP to normal salary levels.

[Alprrro]

@mrsm43s

Is your pay actually £300 down, or is it just that you have a SSP as part of your monthly pay? I work in the public sector, and whilst I get 6mths full pay/6 months half pay, my employer still claims SSP on my behalf and then offsets it against my salary, as this saves them money. The actual amount in my pay packet is the same, but its made up of basic pay, SSP and occupational sick pay which tops up the SSP to normal salary levels.

It’s the basic pay that’s down, and then full SSP? So confusing

[TheRookie]

So did your pay equal your usual amount? Sorry I can't tell from your OP

Even though you are entitled to full pay, you'll still be down as sick leave and your employer claim that so it'll show as that on your payslip. But you should still get full amount.

[Furcoatandnoknickerz]

Everyone in NHS gets SSP, the rest is topped up by the NHS to meet your contractual wage while ever you are entitled.

[Batty18]

Hi, anyone answer my question. With nhs sickness policy when on level 3 how long does it take to reset to lower level or 0. It's 6 months since my last meeting with no time off. Thanks.

[dreamfield]

@Batty18 you need to start your own thread