Eddie Izzard defends JKR

[TundraDweller]

I was surprised to see this -
www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/eddie-izzard-jk-rowling-trans-gender-b632044.html

[notyourhandmaid]

The female loos thing was written about in his autobiography, which was published a few years ago. It would be interesting if someone asked him if reading JKR's blog post has made him revisit this take.

I don't think Eddie deserves a big pat on the back for publicly supporting JKR. It's the right thing to do. I am glad but not grateful. It will melt the heads of many of those who leapt to congratulate Eddie on 'her' bravery.

Eddie's website still uses male pronouns, btw.

[AskingQuestionsAllTheTime]

From the Mirror:
"Backing Izzard's bid to become a Labour candidate, Mr Watson, 53, told the Mirror: “Eddie Izzard is one of the kindest and most intelligent people I have ever met."

If Izzard is the most intelligent person Watson has ever met, Watson is to be pitied. Izzard clearly could not reason his way out of a paper bag.

[DickKerrLadies]

Early morning formatting fail...

[DickKerrLadies]

Well I guess we'll soon find out whether the TRAs really think Eddie is a woman or not...

*"I think we need to look at the things she has written about in her blog."^

Woah Eddie! Suggesting people actually think about things for themselves is totally heresy or something. Blind ignorance only!

[Silvetmoon]

Whatever Eddie says doesn’t change the fact he terrified those young teenage girls in a women’s bathroom.

[Molesmokes]

PotholeParadies - ”How many safe seats do Labour have these days?”

Not so many after the last election but there might be a few where the sitting MP decides to age-out in favour of a seat in The Lords and/or the Speaking Circuit, Corporate sinecures, etc. Mine is one and has an astonishing high representation of the Wokerati controlling the CLP for a deindustrialised, impoverished working class area.

If Izzard has the backing of the election machine they will helicopter him in somewhere they are confident there is no chance of credible opposition. He might make a good MP but if they put him on an AWS that will really be taking the piss!

[PotholeParadies]

Eddie plans to stand for election as a Labour MP and has just remembered that trans people and their “allies” do not constitute a significant voting block. “Gender critical” people meanwhile . . .

There seem to be a lot of people in marketing departments/managing social media comms confusedly arguing both that trans people are simultaneously the most marginalised minority ever and that the trans pound is also a huge untapped market.

It cannot be both.

How many safe seats do Labour have these days?

[Molesmokes]

Eddie plans to stand for election as a Labour MP and has just remembered that trans people and their “allies” do not constitute a significant voting block. “Gender critical” people meanwhile . . .

Going by the performance of previous interlopers usurping AWS, I doubt he would risk scuppering his ambitions by taking that route.

From what I have seen of Eddie being interviewed, eg. by Joe Rogan, he doesn’t seem very intelligent and comes over as thoroughly confused about the whole trans thing. Not that that being unintelligent is any bar to election in a safe seat.

However, if he is actually being groomed by Labour as a candidate the advice from the machine will be rather more pragmatic than that from the trans lobby.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/comedian-tv-star-eddie-izzards-23005713

[Biscuitsanddoombar]

Have tbh I’m enjoying the wailing & dismay on twitter 😆😆 ppl getting annoyed at prick news for ‘misgendering’ Eddie & soooo many couches clearly being fainted upon

Astonishingly though not a fuckton of rape & other sexual violence threats being directed at Eddie. It’s almost as if ppm know Eddie isn’t actually a woman

[BuntingEllacott]

Yeah, whatever. Willoughby also makes these kinds of 'I'm the sensible middle ground' statements, and the intent is always to cast Willoughby in a certain light. So basically, it's all about them. This is no different. I'm not interested in the self serving witterings of someone who scared girls in a female toilet and told the story as an example of him being persecuted. (Male pronoun used as the male in question has given permission. Aren't I a good girl? )

[Manderleyagain]

Archive copy if the telegraph article, thanks to the poster who put it on the main izzard thread.
archive.vn/R8W2X
There's also a 'full interview' in the telegraph,maube that's archived somewhere.

[Helmetbymidnight]

I want him to verbalise exactly what he thinks he has in common with my daughter - his girl mode - and not with my husband. He's supposed to be intelligent, surely he can use his words.

[AskingQuestionsAllTheTime]

MimiLaRue
If Eddie is fine to be referred to as he or she what does that mean for Eddie wanting to be in female designated spaces? Does that mean men can just decide that that particular day they wish to be a "she" and so therefore are entitled to go into women's changing rooms?*

And what happens if Eddie stops being in "girl mode" whilst in the woman's lavatories and suddenly finds Eddie is in "boy mode" now? Does he leg it from the facilities in a panic about his terrible behaviour? (Does he have to apologise to the "girl mode individual" whom he was five minutes ago?)

[DryHeave]

When I hear the words “gender-fluid” I think “drunk the gender-fluid” (like Kool-Aid).

[SheldonesqueIsUnwell]

His time to support JKR was at the time the flames were highest.

Better a token late than never I suppose - it just isn’t quite as loud as it could have been.

[ThatIsNotMyUsername]

Maybe he’s after a part in a Harry Potter remake?

[EightiesRobot]

Defence of JKR is welcome and Izzard clearly wants to be seen as a 'reasonable' voice but he needs to address his use of women's toilets and teenage girls' boundaries following his anecdote, and his position on women only shortlists. I used to really like him but right now he just makes me uncomfortable.

[TheFleegleHasLanded]

It is indeed forced teaming:

uncommongroundmedia.com/forced-teaming-feminism-lgb-and-trans-rights/

[Manderleyagain]

Has izzard said anything recently about using female loos etc? People seem to assume he dies now, but I don't know where that's come from other than the incident in the 80s.

Did he actually make any kind of announcement when he was called she? I got the impression the TV show called him she, and from that everyone assumed he was now identifying as a woman? I'm not sure this is a change compared to what he's said in recent yrs. I think it's useful that he's acknowledging that there is something to discuss - he's defending jkr & her right to see the situation the way she does. It implicitly acknowkedges that there is a conflict, or that it's OK to discuss a conflict. I know people will say it's just crumbs (I see where you are coming from) but that actually is brave at the mo. I wish he'd done it when she was under full fire.

Does anyone know a way to access the telegraph article without subscribing?

[BrassicaRabbit]

I know it's crumbs but I'm happy Eddie said this. It would have been too easy to join the bandwagon against JKR. It doesn't change how I feel about his contempt for the boundaries of teenage girls though.

[teawamutu]

@MimiLaRue

"If they call me 'she' and 'her,' that's great - or 'he' and 'him,' I don't mind. I prefer to be called Eddie, that covers everything. I'm gender fluid

well I mean, thats great that he's relaxed about it but how does that translate to real life?

If Eddie is fine to be referred to as he or she what does that mean for Eddie wanting to be in female designated spaces? Does that mean men can just decide that that particular day they wish to be a "she" and so therefore are entitled to go into women's changing rooms? how are women supposed to react to this? how are women supposed to know that individual changes their mind when they feel like it? how are women meant to feel safe knowing that any man can just decide to be a "she" that day and enter their safe space?

Its one thing to adopt the full identity of a woman, its another thing entirely to switch around when it suits you and it means women are being placed at great risk. But as usual, noone gives AF because as long as "men" are catered for, thats the most important thing isnt it? urgh

Nailed it. For fuck sake.

[ThatIsNotMyUsername]

Indeed.

[bellinisurge]

Someone sees which way the wind is blowing.

[AnyOldPrion]

Though I do welcome anyone in the public eye defending JK in any way - and I will await with interest the Twitterati reaction to his comments!

This is possibly the most interesting aspect to me too. Transactivists were crowing in delight that Eddie had come out as definitively onside. Now he’s said something that casts doubt on something central to their creed. Regardless of what we think of him, they can no longer say he’s unequivocally in the trans camp. There will be tears before bedtime!

[TalkingintheDark]

This sums up the whole problem with transgender ideology.

The second that you start using 'woman' or 'girl' or 'she' to describe a human, purely based on the fact that human wears lipstick/dresses/nail varnish/heels, you immediately perpetuate the stereotype that those things are only for females.

Yes! Exactly, Jetatyeovilaetodrome. There is no transgenderism without regressive, restrictive stereotypes, which harm everyone, but female people most of all.

When you say certain clothes, looks, feelings, ways of behaving or thinking(!) etc are only for women, or only for men, you reinforce those stereotypes, and Izzard is currently doing that with a vengeance. Another concrete way he’s oppressing women and girls.

The fact that so many men these days “identify as” women doesn’t tell us that they are in fact any kind of woman whatsoever; obviously, it just tells us that the attributes they see as “womanly” are not confined to women but are in fact shared by many men.

(And actually not shared by all women, because the only thing that unites us, and differentiates us from the only other form of human beings, men - is our shared biology, our reproductive class. Whether that biology is functional or not, yadda yadda.)

It tells us there is an infinite variety of ways to be a man, just as there is an infinite variety of ways to be a woman.

This is one of those things that’s so utterly, blindingly, gobsmackingly obvious - like the need to safeguard vulnerable children in a humane society - that you can barely believe the opposite could ever have gained any credence.

Yet here we are.