Tatchell on OCC JR

[2fallsagain]

Tatchell had a lot to say about the Oxfordshire JR on RT news yesterday and this is the safe schools alliance response to him. He said girls need to get over their embarrassment of their bodies and that big money from anti trans groups was funding the JR.


twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1227210600347992065?s=20

[CatalogueUniverse]

So one of the things his foundation offers is

www.petertatchellfoundation.org/education-in-human-rights/

Apparently covers the specific human rights of women. I’d be interested to know what his foundation covers.

The right to be a womb for hire perhaps.

[Coyoacan]

I'm not lesbian but I was particularly shocked that a noted gay rights campaigner should claim that lesbians are a danger to other women. I haven't lived a particularly sheltered life, but no lesbian ever has ever tried to sexually assault me.

[ScrimshawTheSecond]

That quote is extraordinary. I had heard something about him excusing paedophilia - I had thought it would be some form of minimising or brushing it aside. That actually sounds like he's advocating for it. And he's still quoted, respected, invited on chat shows - he TALKS IN SCHOOLS????

Are the schools quite aware that he says 9 year olds can find sex with adults 'joyful'?

Does nobody have any idea of consent, informed consent and safeguarding any more?

What on earth is going on?

[Lordfrontpaw]

Is he quite alright? He is demonstrating such amazing narrow sightedness and a lack of critical thinking.

[CatalogueUniverse]

Peter Tatchell showing total mind blindness. He is only looking at this from his own head. He has no sexual interest in looking at women and girls so it is irrelevant. He knows people who claimed that they were not harmed when they were child victims of sexual offences committed by adults so it’s not a problem.

He is given platforms to convey these opinions.

[CatalogueUniverse]

"we need to challenge those who feel uncomfortable, to make them feel comfortable in their own bodies, and around the bodies of others, to enable them not to feel embarrassed or threatened or ashamed".

Well I’m fairly sure that saying that is akin to trans conversion therapy. Unless of course he means that everyone trans or not should be immediately offered medical treatment to make them comfortable in their body. So I dunno, cosmetic surgery for all, face, body, breasts, genitals.

How about making it a hate crime to make anyone uncomfortable by staring at or commenting on their body? oh no that’s ridiculous, not anyone, only a particular set of people are protected like that. The answer for the unprotected majority is to challenge the uncomfortable person, make them guilty of wrong think, deny them privacy and dignity, make them solely responsible for their response and require them to do emotional labour to get over it.

No equality. No safeguarding. Grooming. Misogyny.

[AlwaysTawnyOwl]

Oh, and he also was on TV last year saying that women should just be 'kind' to transwomen who want to enter womens sports.

Either he isn't a human rights campaigner or he doesn't recognise women as human.

[AlwaysTawnyOwl]

I saw Peter Tatchell speak once. Boring as shit but that's another matter.

A childless, gay man. Yet - writes to paper to advocate that sex between children and adults isn't harmful. Last year the 'Peter Tatchell Foundation' issued a report lobbying government to include lessons for children on masturbation, and sex techniques to be given to mixed classes of teenagers. Now he is advocating that girls should just 'get over' their inhibitions about being naked in front of teenage boys.

There is a common, and creepy, theme here which has nothing to do with human rights.

[JessicaLangoustine]

Tatchell and J Epstein are two sides of the same coin. Both advocating sex with minors as normal. Their arguments all have a "scientific" pedigree thanks to Kinsey. Sarah Goode on the subject. Watch from 40 mins to hear the tie in with Kinsey's theories (the whole podcast is really informative if you have the time to watch).

[ThinEndoftheWedge]

Just watched all the way through.

Fucking hell...

Girls feeling uncomfortable with their own bodies due to puberty etc- tough, they have to deal with it. But the narrative for ‘trans’ children who are uncomfortable with their own bodies is affirmation leading to experimentation, medication, surgery and sterilisation.

Who gives a shit about safeguarding??

Now he’s on about girls being bullies too. Similar to the abusive lesbian trope - therefore men / boys should be allowed in to watch girls undress because a (very few) women / girls are safeguarding risks.

Who gives a shit about safeguarding, dignity and privacy?

What a fucking WANKER.

[2fallsagain]

Every single school commenting on this thread needs a great big safeguarding heads up twitter.com/educatecelebrat

[SauceForTheGander]

Why is still given so much air time? He's a massive creep.

[ZuttZeVootEeeVro]

Yet how many times does he have to see people being aghast before he thinks, "Is some reflection needed here?

I don't think he is listening to anyone else. I think that whatever it is that's driving him is more important.

[JessicaLangoustine]

To the pp who said he has no concept of privacy. He spent the 80s and 90s in an aggressive e campaign of "outing" private individuals. And was lauded for it. This man has no concept of one's sexuality being a private matter, let alone one's body. But who are the people who supported him? They have a lot to answer for.

His opinions on children and sex are straight out of Kinsey. If you can catch Dr Sarah Goode on Kinsey and the other 'doctors" who pushed the sex with children agenda, she is worth listening to.

[Justhadathought]

This is what Peter Tatchell wrote in 1997

Reminds me of the testimonies of the boys abused by Michael Jackson - and the total confusion it created in their minds. " Gave them great Joy" - yeh right!

[endofthelinefinally]

The only explanation is that he knows something very significant about somebody very important.

[theflushedzebra]

This is what Peter Tatchell wrote in 1997.

Indistinguishable from what PIE used to say. How he's still got any credibility or a public voice is beyond me.

[ArranUpsideDown]

He is so blinded by whatever drive he has, he not only can't see the situation as it is, he doesn't understand how other people are aghast at his viewpoint.

Yet how many times does he have to see people being aghast before he thinks, "Is some reflection needed here? In the bowels of Christ, might they have a point and might I be mistaken on this issue?" (To mangle Cromwell.)

[Datun]

It's as if he thinks girls' embarrassment about their bodies comes from themselves, rather than from having boys grab their breasts, put their hand up their skirts, make lewd comments etc. Not to mention grown men who proposition them in the street. What a vile old creep he is.

Exactly, and this narrative comes out a lot.

That this is all somehow happening to women and girls, but is entirely separate to the actions of men. He is so blinded by whatever drive he has, he not only can't see the situation as it is, he doesn't understand how other people are aghast at his viewpoint.

[HorseWithNoLang]

Anyone who had the slightest regard for girls as actual human beings would not even think such a thing.

Yep. CreepyMcCreepface is what he is.

[Languishingfemale]

It's quite incredible how, despite all his stated admiration for adults having sex with children, he has absolutely no qualms about pushing his demands that girls (and boys) get naked in front of each other - and presumably all adults.
I think the comparisons to Jimmy Savile's behaviour are spot on. He was also given free access to children in schools (and in hospital etc) with many responsible adults looking on approvingly and those who saw what was happening being too frightened or disempowered to speak up.
Plus ca change.

[RuffleCrow]

What a disgusting creep.

[Binterested]

Remember when Tatchell ran in the safe Labour seat of Bermondsey and lost to new LibDem Simon Hughes. All the Labourites were banging on about how homophobic the people of Bermondsey were for preferring Simon Hughes (who later turned out to be gay himself). Turns out the people of Bermondsey - then a very deprived white working class area - were choosing very wisely.

The elites consistently underestimate the wisdom of people (see also that dreadful Rother Valley candidate).

[OldCrone]

Is he effectively suggesting we remove the right to privacy altogether?

I think he is. Creepy old pervs should have the right to look at anything or anyone they want to. People who don't like that should just 'get over it'.

[AbsintheFriends]

RoyalCorgi nails it for me.

'Make' girls unashamed of their bodies? Lovely idea. Let's begin by making misogyny a hate crime and heaping all the disapprobation currently reserved for gender critical women onto gropers, catcallers, grabbers and creeps. Police cautions, arrests and court cases all round. Shouting 'you're ugly anyway' out of a van? Minimum seven year sentence.