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Bono wins a Glamour woman of the year award

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Felascloak · 01/11/2016 20:53

www.cbsnews.com/news/bono-is-the-first-man-on-glamours-women-of-the-year-list/

Apparently Glamour decided this year to run a "Man of the year" category in the "Woman of the year" awards Confused

I can't decide if it's a necessary step to try to raise more publicity after last year's Caitlyn Jenner award, or if they are just idiots.

Here's an inspirational quote
Bono said in a statement Tuesday from Glamour that the battle for gender equality won’t be won unless men step up and lead alongside women.

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icantbelieveitsnotchristmasyet · 04/11/2016 20:07

argh. bleurgh. ffs glamour. that is all.

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BenLinusatemyhomework · 04/11/2016 16:51

Why couldn't he have "Man of the Year" award for his feminist work? Or a men's awards reserved for proper manly "good" work like science and engerneering and stuff?

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noeffingidea · 04/11/2016 10:49

Yeah, it's all a bit pointless really, isn't it? Why even have a woman of the year award if you're not going to give it to a woman. Perhaps next year they should give it to a monkey or something.
Do women buy this magazine, and if so, why?.I can't imagine buying a mag which seems to value women so little.

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Felascloak · 03/11/2016 19:08

I was thinking about this on the way to work and it feels almost deliberate to push women's boundaries and reassert men in charge. I thought I'd extrapolate from current trajectory Grin
2014 - Laverne Cox, transitioned young, ages ago, passes well.
2015- let's push it a bit further. Caitlyn Jenner, very recently transitioned, older at time and well known when she was Bruce
2016 - well Caitlyn was OK, so let's try and actual man who may be feminist. Bono.
2017 - let's try a man who isn't a feminist but is a good egg. Barack Obama.
2017 - let's have a misogynist. Donald Trump wins Shock

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OneFlewOverTheDodosNest · 03/11/2016 13:52

ChangedDaily Other women may have formed part of the "Women" of the Year list, but who was on the cover of those issues and therefore are the most highly publicised?

2014 - Laverne Cox
2015 - Caitlyn Jenner
2016 - haven't actually seen the cover yet, but I'll place big money on it being Bono and not Simone Biles...

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NewlySkinnyMe · 03/11/2016 11:23

So because Bono is a man tirelessly working in aid of womens causes when he doesn't have to that means he is deserving of a reward above all the other women who work tirelessly in aid of womens causes.

Whole thing is idiotic.

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Amalfimamma · 03/11/2016 07:59

Last year the woman of the year award went to a man, Bruce jenner, this year Bone is nominated.

I think "glamour" may have morphed from a womans mag into a tabloid

Bono wins a Glamour woman of the year award
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RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 03/11/2016 07:55

Yeah i didnt like the "seriously people" bit either winchester

I dont know why it grates so much

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WinchesterWoman · 03/11/2016 07:50

I never buy mags like that. Don't see the apoeal

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TequilaBlockingBird · 03/11/2016 07:35

Well I won't be buying Glamour again. It's gone beyond PR now, it is just offensive.

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WinchesterWoman · 03/11/2016 07:33

'Seriously people'
Nope

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Felascloak · 03/11/2016 07:29

Hmm
Thanks for the derail

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ChangedDaily · 03/11/2016 06:53

Seriously people, Spartacus is all very well, but it shouldn't mean you can monster members of the crowd who refuse to stand up and say it when they were just passing by on the way to the shops.

A post gave a depressingly misleading impression. I wanted to correct it out of a sheer spirit of pedantry, because it wasn't correct.
You could describe the impression given as:
"Glamour magazine hasn't given its WOTY award to any Cis-women in the last three years" or "Glamour magazine hasn't given its WOTY award to any women in the last three years".
Each of these statements takes a stand. Each is hugely offensive to some people. I'm not here to cause offence or take a stand, just for today, under this nn, I happen not to be Spartacus. But I was vaguely interested in the media storm around this ludicrous PR confection and its tenuous relations to the facts so I thought I'd spread a little data. How should one do this without taking a stand and offending someone? "Women born as women" doesn't count by the way, I thought of that one.

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TotallyOuting · 03/11/2016 00:49

There are certainly XXX women, and XY people assigned female gender from birth due to androgen insensitivity or some other reason, who almost everybody would call women.

You weren't talking about genetic anomalies. You were distinguishing from men who claim to transition to being women despite having XY chromosomes.

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WinchesterWoman · 03/11/2016 00:00

It's not in any way a philosophical question.

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ChangedDaily · 02/11/2016 23:58

There are certainly XXX women, and XY people assigned female gender from birth due to androgen insensitivity or some other reason, who almost everybody would call women.

Whether there are also transgender women is a philosophical question on which there are different opinions. "Double X women" leaves the question open - it may or may not be tautologous, but it's not incorrect.

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TheCompanyOfCats · 02/11/2016 23:57
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Lorelei76 · 02/11/2016 23:52

I think this is a publicity stunt and I think Bono should have turned it down.

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TotallyOuting · 02/11/2016 23:47

"Double X women" is undeniably accurate

No, it's really not. Qualifying 'women' with 'double X' is redundant, and implies there's another kind of woman. Which is most definitely not accurate.

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JosephineMaynard · 02/11/2016 21:03

This is ridiculous.

A list for "Women of the Year" should be a list that's exclusively for women. Surely they could have found another inspirational woman to replace Bono on their list if they'd tried?

It's great that Bono's campaigning for women's rights, but if they want to recognise his campaigning, then they should create a new award - male ally of the year, feminist man of the year, or whatever - and give him that.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 02/11/2016 20:15

Because they have a deep down certainty that women can't / shouldn't lead?

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PerspicaciaTick · 02/11/2016 20:00

WTF can't men step up and follow where women are leading? Why do they need to do the leading themselves?

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 02/11/2016 19:55

I'd seen this floating around on Twitter and has assumed it was some sort of ironic joke.

There is no way a man should be woman of the year, even if he is going to show women how to do feminism properly.

Surely the whole point of a woman of the year award, is that women would never win a person of the year award. Awarding women of the year to a man just shows that even when women are given their own special category, a man is still better.

Ridiculous decision IMO.

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HillaryFTW · 02/11/2016 19:23

Are there really no senior women working on the Poverty Is Sexist campaign who could've got this award?

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Xenophile · 02/11/2016 17:15

IsIt... the very idea of Trump transitioning is a hoot! Can you imagine?

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