Slimming world triggers binge eating

[Beachcountrysidetown]

I'm so fed up. I've been trying to lose 2 stone for 18 months and I can shift it. I've joined and left slimming world countless times. I joined again 3 weeks ago - kept to plan for a week - lost 4 pounds - kept to plan for a week - gained a pound. This week? I've binged so much and know I'll have a gain again. I think that the allowance of the unhealthy foods triggers binge eating? I'm not sure! Please does anyone have advice?

[Agoddessonamountaintop]

Chocchip I'm intrigued by this Rebelfit. Have had a quick look on fb but can't see anything that tells you what to actually do. I did get the sample diet sheet but it looked like the same old low carbs thing, in spite of claims that you can eat a bit pf cake. I assume the extra calories can be vonsumed once fitness levels are raised, but do I have to wait unril the next programme in October to find out how to go about this? Tia.

[ilovewelshrarebit123]

I recommend looking at some Richie Howie Team RH videos by Googling.

He tells it like it is and uses choice language. If you listen to what he says it really does make sense though.

I'm a member of his Facebook group and love it, the results people get from following his advice are fab!

[GoingRogue]

Here you go. Some of us are just dipping our toes in the water and seeing how we go. I can't imagine a world completely without sugar, but would love to not have it shouting my name multiple times a day!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/weight_loss_chat/2999077-Tomorrow-I-quit-sugar?pg=1&order=

[GoingRogue]

Yes yes yes OP. I first did SW 19 years ago, when I was 17 (found my old book recently and wondered WTF I was doing there at 5ft 7" and 10st 4....I lost a stone to get to my target of 9st 4 ).

Anyway, have been on/off it over the years. Tbh I've never been particularly big, just over into the unhealthy bmi range and so go back to lose the stone I keep finding.

I've recently, in the past few days, cut RIGHT back on sugar, and am feeling good. I'm not the sort of person to have a 5 syn Freddo and stop there. I would want more and more. But if I avoid obvious sugar completely, maybe I'd be more in control? So joined a thread (Will link in a mo) and find it really helpful. We're doing low-sugar, and not avoiding foods which are naturally high in fat. So full-fat Greek yoghurt, nuts, seeds and avocado are all on the menu. I find these foods so much more satisfying/satieting. When I was on SW last year I'd use my syns for full fat plain yoghurt and real sugar (I have half a teaspoon in my tea) as try to avoid sweeteners as much as possible.

Tbh I don't agree that filling up on Pepsi Max, vile Muller Lights and processed shit like Mug Shots is healthy at all. I would far rather eat PROPER food, but train myself to eat less of it.

Oh, also agree that SW only properly works the first time you do it.

[Chocchip88]

I would really recommend looking at Rebelfit on facebook. I think if you are susceptible to any kind of disordered eating patterns SW will always make it worse. You may be able to stick to it for a while but it's not really sustainable and you can end up relating your self worth to those results on the scales. Focus on health, wellbeing and fitness.

[lynmilne65]

My friends dsil lost 10 stone on SW !

[Gorgosparta]

See my consultant doesnt say that.

And the some/most of the free food is portion controlled. Because your meals have to have a third (speed) veg. So if you pile on the pasta, you have to pile the veg.

And ideally eat the veg first. It can help binge eaters because it can help remove the guilt that we feel.

I did slimming world years ago after i had dd (now 13) and kept the weigh off for years. I havent put it all back on. But have got out of good habits and put some back on.

Its working quite well.

I do have to say that i think slimming world is massively dependant on the consultant. What they say and the tips they give. I have known people survive on muller yoghurts and mugshots. Several of each a day. And that isnt teaching good habits.

But if you get a consultant that really talks about eating good, healthy food as the main focus and using convenience food only occassionally. It can change the way you eat into a healthier one.

If you get a consultant that talks about 1001 ways to eat muller yoghurts and tells you to eat them whenever you are hungry, its not really good.

[FluffyMcCloud]

My experience, both my own and knowing many people who have done slimming world, is that SW works really well once. The first time you join, it's a new way of eating and it works brilliantly. But as OP says, it doesn't teach portion control and when you fall off the wagon, or even just have a day where you fancy something other than pasta and chicken, you end up binging as you are used to eating huge amounts.
Literally everyone I know who has done slimming world, myself included, put back on every pound they lost, and many gained back even more. I lost 2 stone on SW then put back on 3. Then when you rejoin it just doesn't work as well again. Honestly everyone I've known or spoken to about this says the same.

The only people I know who have lost weight and kept it off have done it through strict portion control / calorie counting (or Weight Watchers) or proper hardcore exercise.

But in answer to the OP, yes i believe SW teaches binge eating. Even my old consultant would say "if you have a big appetite like me, you can pile it on your plate".

[DorothyHarris]

I don't think slimming world is good for those of us who may have BED, I lost weight initially with slimming world but it made me get out of the habit of eating properly and bingeing as I just didn't know what to eat. I dislike SW for me as it doesn't teach me any portion control.

[Beachcountrysidetown]

Thanks for the advise everyone. I contacted my sw consultant and they were fab and really helpful. Going back to using my syns for healthy fats and not for the hifi bars and crisps which trigger my binges. Also using syns for full fat yoghurt instead of the low fat ones as free as I think they trigger the inches as well.

[Berrybakecake1]

*by s means buns

[Berrybakecake1]

Sorry didn't read your last post before i posted.
I agree it isn't for everyone. It wouldn't suit my mum for instance. She's always had an awkward relationship with food made worse over the years by chemo and my father dying. She insists the onlybthing she can drink is full fat Pepsi and tea and can only eat mash potato and butter and meat and pies and cream by s and chocolates. But it's balanced because she doesn't eat crisps. She's gone from 16 stone to 20 in 4 years and now have type 2 diabetes but insists it's not her fault.
Rant over about my mother. SW wouldn't suit her because of the substitutions. I don't like sweetener so I'd rather just not have the sweet thing if it can't be proper sugar.
DO you suffer migraines because I found that was my downfall on every other diet was sugar and the migraines when I substituted it. That's one difference this time is I haven't had the migraines because I'm getting enough sugar with my fruit like melon.

[Berrybakecake1]

Ask your leader for an SAS log instead of doing a diary.
I've been doing SW for 3 weeks and have lost 10lbs. I did WW for a year a few years ago and i put a stone on.
The difference this time is I'm not hungry, I fill up on my speed foods and on average only have 3 syns per day. I've got 8stone more to lose but I'm loving SW
It's the only thing that has worked so far and I know it's early days but after 18 years of this weight and every other diet under the sun and pills I've finally found something that works.
Are you doing extra easy as that's what my leader advised for the first 4 weeks.
Pasta I've found is my only enemy if I don't have the ratio for speeds right.
I suppose I'm lucky in the sense I don't drink, don't like tea or coffee and I can manage without treats such as chocolate and crisps.
If I do fancy chocolate I'll have an options mint choc sachet 1.5 syns.
Honestly try talking to your leader in sure she/he can suggest something.

[Agoddessonamountaintop]

MyFitnessPal works for me, as long as I don't ignore it for too long. I've doscovered the best level of calories for me (1300) and how to achieve it (basically halving the carbs for each meal and avoiding snacks and alcohol). If I followed this for seven days a week I'd steadily lose about 1 - 11/2lbs a week. As it is I let life get in the way, as it is at the moment with doing work on the house, but at least if I follow it as much as I can i don't gain.

[Spanneroo]

I'm a binger and have found 5:2 much easier to stick at because I know that I'm only putting off a craving for a short while. Have you tried a different sort of diet?

[Gorgosparta]

If you do sp for more than 7 days it gives you the option of increasing your a choices as well.

I do take the point about low fat having sugar in. I avoid muller, mugshots and all that stuff.

Keep loads of veg and protein and use syns to increase fat.

[Beachcountrysidetown]

Gorgosparta the SP days only allow one portion of dairy and two portions of fibre HEB choice. The problem isn't the carbs - I'm not too carb sensitive when it comes to pasta and potatoes. The triggers for me are not feeling satisfied with low fat alternatives which contain sugar - then having a sugar binge. In my group low fat is really seen as the key to the diet - also half an avacardo is 14 syns so there would be no room for any more fat in the day other than a very very small amount of low fat cheese.
I really understand some people have fantastic success with Slimming World and I am no way saying this is the same for everyone - I'm just saying this is proving to be true in my case

[Gorgosparta]

And you can have fat on slimming world.

I do sp, which is lowish carb. Do it for more that a week and you get 2 portions of diary a day and use syns for fat.

But its not going to work for everyone.

[Theworldisfullofidiots]

I prefer ww. It's just a form of calorie counting and it works better for me.

[Finola1step]

I tried SW and just couldn't get on with it. I didn't like the loaded terms such as "free food" and "syns". There is no such thing as "free food". And don't get be started on a treat being a syn/sin!

Old fashioned calorie counting of everything you eat and drink in a day. Low carbs, lots of protein and veg. Cut down on fruit. No snacking. Tis the best way.

[JimmysMum1988]

Maybe use a smaller plate and see how you get on

[Gorgosparta]

It works for me.

However i have binged. But then i have whatever eating plan i have done.

Which is why i keep putting weight on. Blaming slimming world for triggering binge eating isnt fair really.

Binge eating is a very complicated issue.

[SparkyBlue]

Slimming world was an absolute disaster for me.

[Beachcountrysidetown]

Thanks all for the replies. I find myself not really m owing what to eat - then making weird meals like pasta with passata and chopped up Linda McCartney sausages! I'm veggie so I'd make a chickpea curry but instead of having a mashed half avacardo with it I have fat free yogurt which I hate. Because I'm not having the fat to satisfy me but sugary alternatives- I then crave more sugar leading to a binge! How can I lose weight without following these diets though?!

[looneymumtoteens]

Just started slimming world and stuck to it by the letter and only lost a lb very demotivated feel I was eating far too much even though supposedly "free"!! So after a binge weekend I am writing everything down cutting back on carbs and mixing it with a 5:2 see how that goes good luck OP 😘