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Seriously considering getting a dog, have a pro and con list, advice on the cons please

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Mercythompson · 11/08/2014 19:04

Dh has wanted a dog for a long time, the boys (4 and 6) would love one, I have been the holdout.

We went on holiday and met a lovely west highland terrier and are now seriously considering it. I have a con list and I was wondering if you could tell me if those cons are deal breakers and what I haven't thought of.

Pros first:
We have a big house (relatively)
100ft garden, totally enclosed
I am a SAHM who has a small business that I run from home, that takes 2/3 hours a day.
I walk the boys to school and back, so about 2 hours walk a day.
The boys would absolutely love it
DS1 has high functioning ASD and it might help him socialize, with his emotions etc, I think, (I do know that its a MIGHT)

Cons

I have never had a dog before - DH had one as a child, and I don't really know what I am getting myself into.
Its a HUGE commitment, and its not like we can change our minds later - this is seriously long term
I would have the dog at home with me all day - so it would be mostly on me
Impact on days out and places we can't take the dog - i,e, (rare days out to a theme park - no idea if you can take a dog) - or me taking rare days out on my own, when the kids are in school
holidays - we usually just get a holiday cottage, how easy is that with a dog
cost - both of getting one (ouch) and upkeep - food, vets, insurance
Mess in the house - how much extra cleaning?
I am seriously looking at starting a second business teaching nannies how to cook basic meals - could I do that if I owned a dog?

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mistlethrush · 12/08/2014 00:33

We have a lurcher, like CMot. DH works from home - she sleeps from home and goes out with a dog walker at lunchtime then sleeps some more. When DS and I get home she's up for some attention - but then is content to sleep most of the evening too. Just about to get a 7 yo border terrier (relatives dog) and I'm hoping that it doesn't upset the balance too much and doesn't require constant stimulation for too much of the time.

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insanityscratching · 12/08/2014 08:06

Ds and dd have autism Eric (the dog) is loved by them both and never fails to get a smile from them. Ds and dd are like chalk and cheese Eric approaches them both entirely differently as though he knows their needs. With dd he's happy and exuberant dancing round her and jumping onto her lap with ds he plods over and sits by his feet until ds strokes his head and then he sits next to him on the sofa.He also seems to have quite a few autistic traits himself which makes me smile.
Pros for me would be that even on bad days Eric is guaranteed to make us laugh and smile. He's a good excuse to get out of the house three times a day.There's something really relaxing about snuggling up and stroking a chilled out dog. You seek out nice places to walk (I've lived here all my life and yet it's only since Eric that I've found some lovely walks) and meet nice people too.
Cons would be three to four hours is the limit of how long Eric can be left so full days out don't happen without arrangements made for the dog first. Eric although he doesn't moult finds every bit of mud possible so floors (and walls) need cleaning daily when it's wet and if he needs a bath so does the bathroom.Whatever the weather and no matter how you feel Eric needs a walk or he goes stir crazy We take him with us on holiday which doesrestrict us somewhat.

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LaBelleDameSansPatience · 12/08/2014 08:44

::Waving at CMOT and Mistle:: We have just got a puppy, a small cocker cross. Admittedly, she is young (only had her 2 1/2 weeks) but she really isn't that much of a nightmare. Spends a lot of time asleep and small enough to hide in a large handbag when going into shops, etc. We thought of taking her to the cinema on Sunday - she would have sat quietly in the bag chewing my fingers but shut her in her cage with a kong and she was fine. I realise that she will get worse ... but I do have low standards and tidyness and need for sleep. Perforce, not by choice, so notice little difference.
Our older dog is unimpressed though.
As are the cats, rabbit, etc.
Guinea pigs don't care and chicken pecked her firmly on the nose at first meeting.

Seriously considering getting a dog, have a pro and con list, advice on the cons please
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maisiechain · 12/08/2014 12:30

CON: this is one that never occurred to me! my child & my dog may not get on. This has been my single biggest problem, my DD (aged 8) cannot deal with the dog despite trying every tactic to get her to. It has been very stressful & a total surprise. She is jelous of him I think as I thought I was getting the dog for the kids, but really a dog is more likely to bond closely with its main carer and that will likely be you as your kids are young. Sure they can be involved but how will they feel if pup follows you everywhere? Another sibling to compete with is what our dog has become. Very tricky to deal with.
Good luck! DS is fantastic with him though:)

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Mercythompson · 12/08/2014 17:48

Masie - that is something that hadn't occurred to me, fingers crossed we don't have that issue.

Ladies, thank you so much for your help, fingers crossed we have found a rescue westie - 18 months old little girl! - If they like us, house check etc, we can get her on Friday!

Sad story, they found a home for her and then the owner wouldn't keep her as the dog didn't get on with her daughters pets. this is an adult daughter who doesn't live at home - and they only tried once - the day after they got the dog!

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Logarhythm · 12/08/2014 18:34

Best of luck with the westie mercy
I think I may end up being jealous of the dog because my dcs are unlikely to need me for a cuddle! Wink

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maisiechain · 12/08/2014 22:35

How exciting, good luck, hope all goes well for Friday. Let us know how you get on!

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anamenotanumber · 13/08/2014 08:44

What EVENBETTER says is so spot on. It is very hard initially. Still has it's moments.

Pros: the love between dc and dog. Lovely to watch and I agree that it will be something that becomes invaluable in the teenage years.
The walks - dog has got us out and about exploring and enjoying green spaces we did not go to very often before. Very sociable on walks.

Cons: the work at home parent ends up doing all the dog care. Not just walks but the constant supervision in the puppy stage, the cleaning out of crates and floors. My kitchen floor has not been clean for more than a half hour since we got the pup as pup brings in leaves, twigs, muddy paw prints.

The tie - as others said - it would help if you have relatives or good friends nearby who will take him in for the day when you want to go out for longer.

Overall, I'm glad we did it mostly but only just and sometimes hanker for those lazy mornings when my now older dc was lounging about and I was too. Now it's down to the dog to get him out for his morning toilet visit in the garden. Would also love to go out all day without making arrangements (as with anything like this, it's always me in charge of that and organising the food to send with him etc).

BUT he is worth it really. Mostly. Just.

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moosemama · 13/08/2014 11:17

Mercy, my ds1 has ASD and was never really interested in our dogs until we took on a rescue Lurcher pup last year. They have a really good relationship, for some reason this particular dog seems to recognise that he needs to be calm and quiet with ds1 and will just sit quietly, resting his head in his lap while he strokes him, whereas he's a real rough and tumble pup with ds2.

Ds1 has had a really hard year at school (just moved to secondary) and I honestly believe that having Pip has helped him cope. He spends a lot of time quietly stroking him and is always really pleased to see him when he gets home from school. He told us while we were away on holiday that thinking about his pup is what gets him through bad times, like when he's being bullied and we plan to put a small photo of Pip in his blazer pocket this year to reinforce that. No matter what else Pip will always be his best friend, even when he feels that he has no others.

That said, I do know of other people whose dcs with ASD haven't coped well with the disruption of having a dog in the family, although some have fared better with an older, calmer rescue than a hectic, nippy puppy.

As for general pros and cons.

Pros

I am also a SAHM and having the dogs means I have to get out of the house every day in addition to school runs (school is only across the road, so not much of a dog walk in our case).

On the odd day where I have been home before picking the dogs up from kennels after a weekend away etc I really miss them and the house feels really empty. I literally count the hours until they come home. Blush

They make me laugh and comfort me in equal measure though that isn't to say there haven't been tears of frustration on occasion as well.

All 3 dcs have benefitted from having dogs in different ways. Ds1 as mentioned above, ds2 has become quite the little dog trainer and it's been really good for his self-confidence, dd has learned about appropriate child/dog interaction and also to make sure she doesn't leave toys lying around. Wink

Cons

It does impact on your freedom in terms of long days out - but we just adapt our days to do things that the dog can do to. If we want to go somewhere like a theme park we make a weekend of it and the dogs are kennelled. I'd say we do this once or twice a year on average and that keeps everyone happy, but you do need to factor in that as an additional cost.

It also affects your freedom as a SAHM, most adult dogs (although not mine unfortunately) can be left for 2-3 hours, so long enough for a lunch or mooch around the shops, but anything longer and you'd need to arrange a dog-walker or daycare and factor in the cost.

Holidays - there are plenty of cottages that take dogs, but you may find there's a small charge in addition to the usual rental fee in some. You will also find you can't eat out while away, as the dog can't be left alone in the cottage and it's too hot for them to be left in the car during summer months. Also bear in mind dogs aren't allowed on many UK beaches during summer months, so you need to take that into consideration when planning your holidays.

Mess - no getting away from it, there will be extra cleaning. How much will depend on breed, coat type and character. Some dogs are incredibly clean by nature, others love to roll in the most disgusting thing they can find on virtually every walk and/or bring home as much mud as possible. We have a Vax Pet vaccuum which copes admirably with the fur from two scruffy Lurchers and a steam mop to tackle the never-ending footprints on the kitchen floor. Washing bedding regularly helps to stop the house smelling doggy, but if you have mainly carpet they may need regular cleaning as well. Most people with dogs reach a point where they don't really smell the doggy smell anymore, but bear in mind that visitors will still be able to smell it (not that I care).

Business - no reason why you can't run a business from home when you own a dog as long as you manage your space to comply with health and hygiene regs (usually means no pets in the kitchen) and you get him/her used to being in another room while you work.

Cost: Initial cost of purchase, pet insurance (you need life rather than annual cover, which is more expensive but worth it in case of chronic conditions), vet fees (a certain amount of vet visits will come below your insurance excess), worming and flea treatment, dog food, kennelling/day-care/dog-walker for days when you are going to be out too long to leave him/her. Initial outlay for bed, lead and collar/harness, id tag, toys, food and water bowl, plus additional vet fees for initial vaccinations and microchipping. Training and socialisation classes until you've at least mastered the basics.

I wouldn't be without my dogs for the world, but there's no getting away from the fact that they are a huge commitment and can be very expensive, so you are doing the right thing considering all the pros and cons before entering into anything.

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Mercythompson · 13/08/2014 17:27

Moosemama, thank you that is really interesting and helpful. We are, hopefully, getting an 18 month old westie, so still young but not an absolute baby. Fingers crossed that she can be a companion and comfort to ds1.

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moosemama · 13/08/2014 19:08

Good luck and I hope all goes well and you have found your perfect rescue dog.

Apologies for the appalling grammar and punctuation in my previous post. I really must learn to preview. Blush

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Mercythompson · 13/08/2014 19:47

Thank you moosemama, not heard from the charity today and meant to be getting the dog on Friday so a bit nervous.

Oh and both DH and I thought you post was really well written and thoughtful. We both commented when we read it.

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Owllady · 13/08/2014 20:31

Good luck :)
We have severe autism and a rescue dog, it does you all good imo
We book holiday cottages through cottages4you or Sykes, loads let you take a dog. We are just back from dog friendly wales with ours. Dog even goes on the steam railways with us

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Owllady · 13/08/2014 20:33

We have also took ours to the isle of Wight on the ferry. I don't really find it restrictive as we holiday in the UK

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moosemama · 13/08/2014 20:52

Sorry for the hijack but Owllady, which steam railways let you take dogs, if you don't mind me asking. When we looked last year they all specifically excluded dogs and dd is desperate to ride on a steam train.

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Owllady · 13/08/2014 21:07

Talylyn, twywyn
:)
God it's gorgeous! It runs through the Snowdonia national park. We stayed in barmouth (we do every year now, you know autism!) But I find the whole area very accepting, accessible and obviously very beautiful. I think quite a few of the other railways there accept dogs though.

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Owllady · 13/08/2014 21:08

I think I may have spelt it wrong Blush

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Owllady · 13/08/2014 21:21

I've checked and you can also take dogs on ffestiniog (portmadog), fairbourne and the welshpool railway, which are all close too

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moosemama · 13/08/2014 21:33

That's great Owllady, thank you. Flowers

My BIL takes his dcs to Barmouth every year too. He also has dcs with ASD. We do the same holiday to a holiday home owned by our family in SE Ireland every year - for the same reason.

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ethelb · 13/08/2014 21:35

Honestly, the biggest one is that terriers really don't behave how the British public think they should. The possibility of public humiliation is high.

You will want to go away and when you do you will miss it.

Terriers don't like water and it gets quite tedious when you want them to go and do a wee in a storm as you want to go to bed because you are drunk Confused

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Owllady · 13/08/2014 21:42

How funny your bil holidays there too :o
There must be lots of us...

We are born west Midlands, though we live down south now (have done for yonks) so a trip back to barmouth is a trip to brush back up on your black country accent and rib your own children about how posh they are/sound Blush

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Mercythompson · 14/08/2014 10:38

We are picking her up tomorrow! - Wow - tidying the house now (at least the chewable bits!)

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JennyOnTheBlocks · 14/08/2014 11:29

Brilliant news, you won't regret it :)

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LaBelleDameSansPatience · 14/08/2014 13:53

Well, you will, frequently. But not in the long term. Now off to mop up latest puddle. Hmm

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oldandcrabby · 14/08/2014 17:38

Enjoy and don't panic. I would really recommend going to training classes, it will help you bond, socialise the dog and reassure you are doing the right things. You can google APDT or COAPE trainers in your area.

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