What grade *should* they get in their year 9 SATs?

[MrsSnape]

Does anyone know what grade they should be getting in their year 9 mock sats (or the proper ones)?

[ragged]

Might be something to do with the vintage of the thread, Sparky.
Z O M B I E

[BertrandRussell]

Not for mumsnetchildren, sparkly!

[sparky]

There is fair bit of conflicting information in this thread.

Have a look at the Dept for Education webpage on School Performance Tables, at the following link:

file:///D:/Users/nicky/Documents/Schools/National%20Curriculum%20expected%20levels%20age%207,%2011,%2014.htm

You will see that at age 14 (end of KS3) the expected level is 5 or 6. Level 7 is beyond expectations and 8 is exceptional.

[OhYouBadBadKitten]

The thread that never dies.
ZOMBIE.

[Heytham27]

Hi
My I have received my son's report on Friday, he got level 6 he is in year 9
It's frustrating me can anyone give advice in this situation please.
He is the oldest.

Thank you.

[madmac1976]

My son has just got his progress report he's in year 8 and these are his current grades in maths 7b,English 6a,science 6b His targets are all 7's so every pupil are different

[hilary2012]

When do they take their sats in year 9 then? I've come from abroad and am not aware of the system here, but my son has not indicated he's taken any sats???? Nearly finishing yr 9 now............confused!

[ThreeBeeOneGee]

It's a double zombie thread as it's now been resurrected twice! The OP's sister would now be about 19 or 20...

[Enida]

Most schools still do them internally.

[flow4]

I don't always mind a zombie thread (after all, the same problems do recur for different parents, months or years apart)... But in this case, they've abolished the KS3 SATs, so this thread is well and truly redundant!

[lljkk]

Seriously ZOMBIE thread.
Although I did read elsewhere on MN that Level 6 in KS3 meant Cs & Bs for GCSE (nowadays).

[Somebodysomewhere]

Bugger how did i not notice that !

[Somebodysomewhere]

I thought it was 5 and 6 is the "good" grade although i remember a few 7s back when i was at school. (Sadly not mine !)

[Enida]

Level 5a is the average year nine level. 5a= c (pass grade) or low b. im a yr nine student.

[bettyboop63]

our secondary school set it out like this eg:
history

current level 7, min acceptable grade level 7 low,target aspirational grade 7 secure.

its set out like that for all subjects i find that easier to understand

i dont know why i assumed they all did it like that no?

[Niceguy2]

erm...this thread is over 3 years old!

[whitecloud]

MrsSnape - if it's any consolation, my dd did not do that well in Year 9 SATs in science, but it all clicked in year 10 and 11 and she is now doing her GCSEs and getting As and Bs. It is quite possible for them to put a spurt on. She got worse marks in junior school and lower down the senior school but has worked hard and dome better than some who had high scores then. Now dd is in year 11 and preparing to do science A levels. These preditions can only tell you so much....

[mann]

What was wrong with A B C etc it worked well for years...........MAD enough to drive one to drink!

[mumtomonkeys]

its different for each set.

your child should be told in school

there is different expected level for each subject

english
maths
science

so your child shud ask ther subject teacher

[CarGirl]

just read this and my head hurts. Why have they made it all so complicated!!!!!!!!!

[mumtomonkeys]

DD is in year 9
and she got level 7s in her mocks

she is expected a level 6 in her maths
level 7 in her science
and level 6 in her english

she got 7s in her mocks

the exepcted level is for the proper sats.

expected level 6 is normal for about a nearly top set child

DD is in set 2

One less than the top set

Top set is expected level 7s or above

hope it helps

[abbyscoffedallthemincepiesmeg]

Sorry - should clarify level 5 is average at Year 9. I hope I didn't sound like I was being rude about lilo's son attaining level 5 in Year 6 - which is a brilliant result!

[abbyscoffedallthemincepiesmeg]

Level 5 in English as average. I wouldn't make predictions based on SATs results for GCSE as they can be marked out on what a student usually achieves. Most schools will give you a teacher assessment level for the end of Year 9 as well as the SATs results. (Given, that with English, it takes until late summer for them to turn up, our setting and target grades for GCSE are largely based on their teacher assessment; even if they did turn up earlier, I still
think we would discount them in favour of our own judgement where setting is concerned).

I have had the experience of students with Level 6 at SAT; GCSE target B getting A*s on more than one occasion. Yet it works the other way - in my first year of teaching (in a different school) the SATs marks were inflated. Obviously, school was delighted with the result. However, I was then teaching a Year 10 set 4 group who had up to A grade targets for GCSE which were unrealistic - more like C, B tops. I also had fun trying to explain to them why they were still in set 4 when they had the same SAT result as children in a higher set.

As a parent (my dd is about to do KS2), I would try not to worry too much about the SATs. Teacher assessment and coursework marks are a better reflection of their ability. Their GCSEs are the ones that count for them.

I hope this helps

[lilolilbethlehem]

My DS's Yr 9 Sats and predicted GCSE grades confirm what fizzbuzz says. Most of his year group had level 5 in yr 6 (not boasting, too many of them got straight 5s for me to think mine was special! Just fact based on good primary feeding selective grammar).