Ds's wealthy friends!

[user1483390742]

My son (Y8) goes to a grammar school with many wealthy kids there.
We are a comfortable 2 income graduate family and earn well. Live in a fab 4 bed Victorian house.
My son has made friends with some incredibly wealthy boys at school ( think swimming pools, 2 x range rovers in the drive, 3x foreign holidays per year) and has never brought any of them them home as i know he is ashamed of our home! He has been to their houses many times for sleepovers/afternoons in the pool, but won't return the invite. He says there's nothing to do here! I have tried to explain to him that money/houses/cars shouldn't be important if they are real friends, but he just gives me 'a look'!
It makes me so sad that he is ashamed of our lovely home! I'm sure the other parents must be thinking it's odd that we have never invited their children over!

[JustDanceAddict]

And as a teen my house was the party house, sleepovers etc in a 3-bed semi. I think it was cos my mum was pretty lenient and we were essentially good kids.

[JustDanceAddict]

A couple of my kids' friends never invite them to their houses as there is 'nothing to do' or 'too small' - they always come here or meet out instead. This totally comes from them & not us, we certainly don't live in a big house - I'd call it a decent-sized 3-bed with small garden.

[DoctorDonnaNoble]

From my own grammar days we tended to just muddle through. One of my friends only ever had one friend to stay at a time because she had 5 siblings in a 4 bed house so there wasn't the room.
I had plenty of room for sleepovers in a variety of rooms but we tended to go elsewhere for the open plan spaces and with parents who had less strict rules on smoking and drinking!
We had three regular hosts covering the full financial range at our grammars (separate boys and girls). All had a large open plan space where we could all 'sleep' together. Two were in the middle of nowhere, one was a normal suburban house.
This isn't a grammar problem it's a teenager problem.
For what it's worth as a teacher married to a policeman, I'm not sure I'll be hosting a huge number of visitors!

[Jemimapiddleduck]

I was more embarrassed by the fact that my mums house was really messy than I was. G the fact that we didn't have range rovers.

I remember visiting my husbands house (we met as teens) and being blown away fancy cars, pools multiple overseas holidays.

We can barely afford our two very old secound hand cars so our kids will
Not be raised like he was. He thinks it's great - I would like the holidays!!

[FairytaleOfSkegness]

I think he's at the age when you are desperate to be just like your friends and nothing else will do. I remember being the opposite of your son and being embarrassed that my parents had done multiple extensions on our house and it looked too "posh" which in hindsight they had worked very hard to pay for

[UsedToBeAPaxmanFan]

Several of our neighbours have swimming pools. A few of our friends in the village have tennis courts. Almost all the children in our village go to the village primary and then on to the local comprehensive.

I'm sure ds's much richer friends from school come to our house partly because of its proximity to the rec where they play football for hours, then come back to ours for pizza.

[Beelzebop]

OP, if it makes you feel any better I went through a phase like that. I was a scholarship girl, was being teased a bit and was just so desperate to fit in. I think my accent even changed in an act of unconscious self preservation! It wore off though. Is he feeling a bit uncertain? Xx

[dailymailarecunts]

Little boy in ds class lives in a castle.... I have a 3 bed semi which I haven't got round to decorating since the rewire I had done 5 years ago. I can't even compete, so I own it and just make the kids feel welcome as I would any others. They all seem to like the playroom here as they would in any other house any way!

[user1483390742]

His school is a mix of all backgrounds. He wasn't tutored (we couldn't have afforded it!) for the exams, but i know some were. We were fully intending to send him to the good, local comp with most of his primary school friends but he wanted to sit the exam!

I didn't think people in England had pools either, but some do!

Our son is quite materialistic, as are most teenagers i suppose, but we are not. I have no interest in designer labels or hi tech household gadgets- we are more open fires and home made bread.

Ultimately, i suppose i will just have to accept the choices he makes. He knows we love him and that his friends are welcome here, so it's up to him!

[Shamoffour]

Sorry posted too soon.

Dd has a mix of friends, most are pretty middle class a few maybe not so much they all seem to meet up at places rather than at each other's houses.
Dd could care less but that said I suppose we would be towards the wealthier end of her friendship group.

[Shamoffour]

In the area I live in a lot of parents pay for their children to go to one of the local preps then sit the entrance exams for the state grammars. One of the girls grammars has exceptionally good. There are a lot of very wealthy families at all our local grammars, most people seem to go private if they don't pass the entrance exams for the state grammars and yes everyone tutors,if you can't afford a tutor your chances of getting in are greatly reduced.
Swimming pools are also not unusually and Range Rovers are very common.

[TealStar]

I remember dh saying that his whole childhood was spent at his best friend's down the road because they had the bigger house with swimming pool, tennis courts, and grounds to explore. There was simply more to do. I know they also used to hang out at dh's house as there are some very funny stories about what they got up to there but the big house was simply the better one for hanging out at. It wasn't due to snobbery or shame on dh's part, just teenage boys needing space.

I had a lot of friends with big houses and pools and they were always good fun. I remember bringing my friends back to our (large 4 bed but nothing exciting) house and feeling that these friends were a bit awkward with the fact that we had to be a bit creative in finding stuff to do!

[semideponent]

I have the opposite problem, user...we're the wealthy family in the big house and DS loves going to his friends' houses so much that he never brings anyone back to ours! I have no idea what all their parents think of us...

Pizza is an emerging theme, though. DS is full of praise for one mum's homemade version :)

[lljkk]

DD keeps saying she can't bring friends home b/c our house is too untidy/grotty.

She had sleepover @ friend's home... ramshackle 15th century clutter & dust everywhere 25 not very clean rooms, exhausted dad conked out on nearby sofa the whole hr I was there (all fine by me). Manic dog, No microwave in sight & it took 45 minutes to cook a dozen hot dogs.

Their dust & clutter R fine b/c they R a posh extended family in amazing home, not our modern big box house. Pah. Teens find any excuse to be embarrassed.

[goodgodlemon]

Agree with swingofthings. It may not be about being ashamed but maybe it's about having space to entertain away from parents. We used to live in a fairy normal terraced house when Dds were teenagers. They had some pretty rich friends but happy to bring home as they knew they had use of small study with separate DVD player away from nosy parents! Also endless supplies of pizza helped. Also agree it may just be a phase and he will soon go to someone's house not as posh and realise it doesn't really matter.

[swingofthings]

Why do you say he is ashamed? I was in the same situation than your son as a kid and I was the one always going to my friend's house and not inviting them at mine. It had nothing to do with being ashamed, just that their house was indeed more entertaining. One in particular always invited us and it became the norm to do so. His mum loved having us there, I think she was a bit bored and treated us like royalty! I just didn't really give it much thought, just enjoyed going there as often as possible!

[Ifailed]

How many people in England have a pool? And of them how many go to a state school? Very very few I would think.

Can't speak for the rest of the country, but certainly in parts of Kent there are some very wealthy families who use the grammar schools as they produce results as good as if not higher then private schools. A quick look on Google Earth reveals a lot of swimming pools, try 'flying' over some of villages near Tunbridge Wells, for example.

[BrutusMcDogface]

Isn't he prime age to be excruciatingly embarrassed by his parents? Don't worry about it, for goodness sake. Enjoy the peace while he's out with his friends!

[thisagain]

Might it not be a fee paying grammar school?

[Frouby]

I know how you feel OP. We moved to this area 2 years ago. We originally lived in a pretty rough area. Edge of a council estate that was known as rough, loads of low level crime and anti social behaviour. We were lucky enough to get a HA property on the edge of a new build estate in a naicer area.

Dd has made loads of friends and a few are a lot more affluent than us. After dropping her off at one particular friends I was really worried about how they would perceive our little house. Not for my sake but dds.

The first time the other girl and dd were brought home her mum told dd we had a posh house and she was jealous of all our local amenities as they lived in the middle of nowhere. And the girl loves coming to ours, says she feels really comfortable around me and dp and it's nice that they can nip across for a coffee at the local costa etc. And that our house is much warmer and cosier than their house.

If your ds has a problem with it then it could just be your ds. And if his friends have a problem with it then it's his friends problem not his.

[SaltyMyDear]

Never - DSs grammar school has a far bigger range of incomes than our local comprehensive which selects by post code.

[NeverTwerkNaked]

I know pottering and that's what makes it such a sham

[PotteringAlong]

But I thought Grammar schools selected on ability not wealth? So surely there is the full range of back grounds represented??

No, because not the full range of backgrounds can afford tutors to pass the 11+ exam...

[NeverTwerkNaked]

But I thought Grammar schools selected on ability not wealth? So surely there is the full range of back grounds represented??

Anyway, it does sound like he could do with being exposed to the world outside his very exclusive bubble (my childhood was like his too; I became a much nicer person once I had experienced what life was like for people outside the bubble of privilege)