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17-year-old ds wants to book lads' holiday to Malia next summer.

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 11/08/2014 23:21

He will be 18, and will be going with three school friends. I am not happy about this at all - from what I have read tonight, it is full of teenage Brits, getting off their skulls on cheap alcohol (buy 1 drink for 3€, get two, or even 5 free), having lots of sex, and racing round on cheaply hired quad bikes.

But I know there is not a lot I can do about this - he's worked, labouring for a friend of mine and has saved enough for the deposit, and earns £25 a week from a paper round, so he could afford the holiday (they've found a deal costing £300-ish for a week) and save up spends - so he's not going to be relying on us to finance the holiday - which means we won't really have much say.

Has anyone been to Malia? Or have your teens been - and how was it?

I am going to show ds3 the news stories I've found, and see what he says.

He does go out and party with friends, but has only been drunk enough to need us to go and get him twice. He and his friends seem to look out for each other when they are drinking, and none of them have ever got into serious trouble - throwing up seems to be the worst they have got up to - we haven't had to go and bail him out or collect him from A&E. I think he is reasonably trustworthy, but would that hold, when he's in a party town, surrounded by loads of other drunken teens, behaving recklessly? He did go to T in the Park this summer, and came home none the worse - should that reassure me? I don't know.

I want to trust him. I know that he will be 18 and would be able to go with or without our permission - and that in a few years, he'll be living independently, and won't even have to discuss his holiday plans with us - but I am worried about this holiday.

Dh is away until Wednesday night, and I have said ds3 can't book the holiday without first talking it over with him, but ds3 and his friends want to book on because they have found a good deal.

Arghhhh - why can't they stay little.

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specialsubject · 12/08/2014 11:02

ps quad bikes are the worst idea of all this and he DEFINITELY will not have insurance for using those. Travel insurance excludes motorised items.

ditto scooters which often produce involuntary tattoos.

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bayrans · 12/08/2014 11:04

My mistake Blush I should know that as I've got one! Sentiments the same though.

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TeaAndALemonTart · 12/08/2014 11:11

I went to Ibiza when I was 18 for a week and decided to stay. I came back a year later, having missed my university place.

It was the best summer ever. Slightly regret not getting a degree now though.

DS is going to reading festival in a couple of weeks, my first.get a are wedged firmly in my ears.

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TeaAndALemonTart · 12/08/2014 11:11
  • my fingers.
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OnIlkleyMoorBahTwat · 12/08/2014 11:12

YY specialsubject. I assume by scooters you mean moped type things?

A friend of mine ended up with severe leg injuries due a moped accident while working in Mallorca and she still has scarring nearly 30 years later.

However OP, I'm sure that 90/95/99% of teens that go on a foreign piss up holiday suffer no more than a week of dreadful hangovers Smile.

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latika · 12/08/2014 11:24

When I was 18 I went to Ibiza to work as a holiday rep for a season. Yes it was wild and yes there was many a night I was far too drunk however we all looked after each other and had an amazing time! He's 18 and you have to give him some independence.

Talk to him about safe sex and acknowledge that you know they are all going to drink but that they need to stick together and never let one of the group go home alone. Make sure he has a good supply of condoms, adequate travel insurance and an emergency fund of £100 left with you which you can transfer to him in the event he runs out if funds towards the end of the holiday. If he has an iPhone show him how to turn the data roaming off or he will have a huge bill at the end of the holiday if he accesses Facebook or anything like that.

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specialsubject · 12/08/2014 12:31

yes, it is mopeds that I am thinking of. Usually ridden by kids in bikinis or shorts. Hitting the road at high speed dressed like that is not fun. Quad bikes can also be murderous.

of course most of them come back with just wrecked livers and less money, but there are quite a lot of ways to get in trouble on these trips.

it is a bit sad that the only way a lot of people can have fun is to get totally wasted; but these horrible resorts are such dumps that no-one would go there sober. Fortunately these resorts do a service in keeping the riot contained so there are plenty of lovely places still left for holidays.

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AnyFucker · 12/08/2014 12:34

DD, 18, had her first girls holiday this summer to a well known 18-30 party spot. She was fine, her friends were fine, she made some great new ones.

Chill.

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LeftHandedMouse · 12/08/2014 12:37

I recommend looking up the Which? Best Buy travel insurance, highest level of cover is very very reasonable.

Gadget (ie phone) insurance is always extra, and always expensive. Tell him to leave his iphone/Galaxy S99 at home and pack him off with a cheapy phone for emergencies.

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/08/2014 12:49

I'm trying to, AnyFucker! Grin I'm also trying to get dh to chill - which is a much bigger challenge. It is reassuring to read about teenagers going on these holidays and coming home fine - that's what I needed to see, to balance out the news stories.

When he went to T in the Park, he took my old Samsung Galaxy with him, and left his iPhone at home - I will hang onto the Samsung and its charger so he can do the same next summer.

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AnyFucker · 12/08/2014 12:57

He will be another year older too, don't forget

My dd changed a lot between 17 and 18

We also left her home alone for the first time when we went away. Not a problem at all.

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Mrsjayy · 12/08/2014 12:57

Id be more scared at y dds going to t in the park than on holiday Grin dd1 worked a stage last year she said god it is scary

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AnyFucker · 12/08/2014 12:58

btw, I visited Malia many years ago and it is actually beautiful

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secretsquirrels · 12/08/2014 13:10

The travel insurance may seem obvious but remember your DC may not be the one who does the actual booking and they may not want to spend more than the minimum. At 18 you can't exactly micro manage like you itch to the whole thing.
The boy who booked DS's holiday had never travelled abroad before and when I asked about travel insurance he didn't know what I was talking about. I did persuade them to get travel insurance and E111s but it's not top of the range cover.

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LeBearPolar · 12/08/2014 13:18

Don't google it, OP. I just did and read a horrible article (OK, it was in the Mirror so sensationalised like mad) about what it's like there.

DS is 11, and is being locked in the shed until he's 30.

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Mrsjayy · 12/08/2014 13:55

I never understand those parents who go on the telly andcwatch kids getting pissed and shagging- id rather be in blissful ignorance

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TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 12/08/2014 14:09

My kid brother [big age gap] did this about 3 yrs back except he was going for the summer with the intention of getting a job in the first two weeks. He didn't take out travel insurance and had all his spending money, circa 1200 in cash, stolen on day 1. Parents had to bail him out, which they did with the bare minimum, and he was on his return flight in two weeks to work off his debt to them for the remainder of the summer.

They were livid he hadn't taken out travel insurance, but I suspect secretly quite pleased that he hadn't been able to spend the summer out there.

Their relationship was v poor at the time though so I'd try to avoid getting yourselves into a position where everyone gets entrenched though.

I think you have to trust that your kids are going to be vaguely sensible. If you are pretty sure that they are too stupid not to follow the pack drunk onto mopeds etc, then I'd be trying everything in my power to limit the holiday.

Jumbo box of condoms, huge bottle of factor 50, travel insurance and E111 is about as much as you can do.

A friend's daughter booked a girls holiday last year which her father [a colleague] was dreading as it was an 18-30 type holiday. He got her into diving over the previous year which she was dead keen to do on holiday and severely curtailed her drinking as you can't do it 12 hours before or something. Plus the dive boats left at 7-8am Grin

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Tiredemma · 12/08/2014 14:13

I went to Magalluf as an 18 year old and stayed there for five years. My liver did take quite a beating but I had a marvellous time.

I actually met DP there - came back reasonably normal. Now have 3 kids, a dog, a mortgage and a good job so fear not!!

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AnyFucker · 12/08/2014 14:32

we took out Virgin travel insurance separately to the group booking

t'was easy and only a few quid

enough to cover medical costs, repatriation and replacement of valuables...that is all a teenager needs

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secretsquirrels · 12/08/2014 14:42

DS got a policy through Holiday Extras. As far as I can tell it covers for what they need, of course will stress that it covers nothing if they are drunk.

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Stalinssister · 12/08/2014 14:53

My DD went to Malia for a week when she was 17 with her friends. They were fine, they all looked after each other. The year after that DD and the same gang went travelling in Thailand for two months. They had a great time and all came back in one piece.

I always bought her travel insurance to make sure she had it (and she has a medical condition which has to be declared) and sweated about it all. But in the end they are becoming adults and have to make their own choices. And we have to find a way of managing it, which is hard for us but just something we have to get through.

Now I have all this to come with DS.

It does cause wear and tear on your nerves and stress levels though.

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Curiouslygrumpycola · 12/08/2014 19:31

It's the climbing between balconies and riding quads that worries me. Lots of warnings about those.

He will most likely have the time of his life. I regret not doing a girly holiday.

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Annunziata · 12/08/2014 19:37

All of mine have done it and they do all come back in one piece. I've been a wreck but you can't lock them up!

I have a collection of tea towels from trashy teenage holiday islands... Grin

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Delphiniumsblue · 12/08/2014 19:40

This is why I think it sensible to start letting them have more freedom at 16yrs- go camping etc with friends- because at 18yrs they are adults and as long as they have the money you can't stop them. It could be worse- he could be off to Peru, Thailand etc

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LoveBeingInTheSun · 12/08/2014 19:42

Dh and I used to stay next to malia, have busted it a few times. As others have said they will be fine , let him book the deal.

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