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Read the answers to your questions about pregnancy and maternity services from Rona McCandlish, the National Professional Maternity Advisor for the Care Quality Commission

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KathrynMumsnet · 15/06/2015 13:57

Rona McCandlish, National Professional Maternity Advisor for the Care Quality Commission CQC, is here to answer any questions you may have about maternity services, pregnancy, birth or the postnatal period.

The CQC say “We ensure hospitals, care homes, dental and general practices and other care services in England provide people with safe, effective and high-quality care, and encourage the services to improve.”

Rona began her health care career started in health care as a nursing assistant in Edinburgh forty years ago. She went on to train as a general nurse, and then as a mental health nurse, and finally as a midwife. She has practised continuously as a registered midwife since 1985.

As a registered practicing midwife, Rona advises the CQC about a range of issues relating to maternity. Her varied work includes regularly being part of a team inspecting maternity services; advising CQC’s expert analysts; and meeting parents to talk about care they’ve experienced. Her feedback is then used by the CQC to improve maternity services inspections.

Post your questions for Rona on this thread by 21 June. We’ll then pick 20 questions for Rona to answer. Check the thread again on 30 June, when Rona’s responses will be posted.

This Q&A is sponsored by the CQC.

Thanks,

MNHQ

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Thurlow · 18/06/2015 12:25

Is the CQC involved in any way in ensuring that it is easier to transfer from maternity services in one area/PCT to another area?

When pregnant I found this a huge difficulty. I knew I would be moving late in my pregnancy to a completely different county. This meant that the community midwives where I lived for the first 30+w of my pregnancy didn't discuss birth choices or anything like that, but by the time I was "booked in" with my new maternity team after moving, at 34w it was considered too late to discuss choices.

The maternity team from the first place said they were not able in anyway to contact the maternity team where we were moving to, or help me find contact numbers, or in anyway make the process just a tiny bit less stressful and worrying.

It all worked out fine in the end but I did miss out on a lot - discussion of birth choices, hospital tours and all that - and I feel it isn't that unusual a circumstance. I'd be interested to know if the CQC are involved or have any thoughts on assisting maternity services throughout the UK communicating with each other and working together to deliver useful maternity services to women who may either be moving or know they will be travelling to be with family (for support) to give birth.

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cherryade8 · 19/06/2015 19:13

Hi, what is being done to improve breastfeeding support and advice on maternity units and in the community? In my experience the midwives had a really poor and basic understanding of breastfeeding and were very unsupportive. Conversely the NCT had excellent breastfeeding counsellors who were really encouraging and had a brilliant knowledge and it was as a result of them that I breastfed for two years. If I'd stuck with the midwives then I'd have been lucky to breastfeed for two weeks!

Thanks!

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ChickenLaVidaLoca · 22/06/2015 10:13

Have you picked the questions yet MN?

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Impala77 · 23/06/2015 21:53

Women need to know that they can refuse interventions and should have informed consent.
I naively just did what I was told which led to awful consequences for me.
Why don't midwives discuss consent?
Or forceps and the damage they cause.

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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 15:32

@Twothirdsamidwife

As a student midwife and previous healthcare assistant who has been involved in preparing for a CQC visit - do you feel organised visits with notice for the hospital gives a true reflection of that trust??

Wouldn't unannounced visits give a truer reflection of staff shortages, musical beds, conveyor belt delivery suites and responsibility for a patients care being passed from pillar to post??

Do you think more money should be spent on frontline staff so as able to give the right level of care to our 'patients' - instead of advertising schemes such as 'better by far', 'saving lives' and other such gimmicks that cost trusts a fortune in rebranding, training and staff.


Hello Twothirdsamidiwfe,

Thanks for asking about CQC’s different ways of inspecting and monitoring services. I think you’ve been involved in one of the new comprehensive inspections and when we make that kind of ‘announced’ inspection , we will write to an organisation to give sufficient notice to minimize disruption to clinical commitments

The reason for this is because a comprehensive inspection is not only looking at maternity: it will cover Urgent and emergency services (A&E), Medical care (including older people's care), Surgery, Critical care, Services for children and young people, End of life care, Outpatient services and diagnostic imaging (such as x-rays and scans). In advance, we may ask for copies of relevant documentation to be shared with us, such as: organisational structures, radiation protection policies, information on staffing and equipment for medical exposures, the employer's written procedures for IRMER.

In some instances we make an unannounced inspection, where we will not give the organisation any notice and will meet with as many duty-holders on the day as time and pre-existing commitments allow. We ask to see copies of key documentation on the day.

I agree that having the right kind of staff at the frontline is crucial for safe quality care. I see before you were a student midwife you were a healthcare assistant so you’ll know how important HCAs and MCAs are. CQC always looks at midwifery and medical staffing when we inspect a maternity service to review whether the right level and numbers of staff are available throughout the whole of 24 hours and though 7 days of the week. We also review use of non-permanent staff, and the trust’s plan if their staffing levels are too low. We use this information to help make our judgement about the service.
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 15:36

@LookingForDave

What will happen to Supervision of Midwives when it is no longer legislation?

Who will be there to advocate for women trying to access care choices outside normal pathways?

Who will support midwives to support women?



Hi LookingForDave,

In January the Board of the Nursing & MidiwferyCouncil (NMC) accepted that statutory supervision of midwives should no longer be part of the NMC’s regulatory framework. Although there wasn’t any mention of the changes the NMC were seeking to their regulations in the Queen’s speech in early June I understand that the Chief Nursing Officers of the four countries of the UK have been leading work on non-statutory supervision in their different health care systems.

The new NMC Code for nurses and midwives (www.nmc.org.uk/standards/code/)
came into operation at the end of March and a woman should expect that a registered midwife practices according to section 2 : Listen to people and respond to their preferences and concerns when it comes to the choices she is making.

As part of CQC inspections, we look at staffing levels. If there is a shortage in midwives, we ask Trusts to look at is as a matter of priority – and also to support the midwives who already work there better to perform their roles.
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 15:39

@PenguinsAreAce

What is the CQC doing to ensure there is proper qualified breastfeeding support on all maternity units whenever needed?

As a public health intervention it makes sense, including financial sense. It is another example where organisational structures do not incentivise the right thing, and the financial benefits are downstream and may accrue, for example, to primary care not the acute sector.

However, this sort of thing is often seen as the fluffy 'icing' on the cake, and therefore an easy target not bother with or cut. The variation between hospitals is massive, with some having funded paid peer supporters 7 days a week, and UNICEF Babyfriendly accreditation, whilst others have none of that and rely solely on overstretched midwives and HCAs, who may not be trained to UNICEF standards.

Also, what is your organisation doing to outlaw Bounty from Mat units? Vulnerable hospital patients should not be a cash cow for private sector marketing.

Oh yes, how do you ensure localities provide integrated care in relation to breastfeeding across antenatal, hospital and community midwives, and health visitors and GPs? It would be amazing to see genuinely patient-centred care with services joined up around the individual.



Hi PenguinsAreAce,

As you say the benefits of breastfeeding are clear and I know having someone who can support you when you’ve just had your baby and you want to breastfeed makes all the difference.

Although there is variation in the way maternity services offer support there is no one model that would work for all. So, when CQC inspects a maternity service we consider the breastfeeding rate and whether the service is managed according to NICE Guideline 37 and NICE Quality Standard on breastfeeding to meet the needs of the particular population that uses the service.

Women who have recently given birth on maternity wards have a right to privacy and their dignity must be respected. This can be a vulnerable time for women and it is unacceptable for private data to be obtained without patients’ informed consent. As part of CQC’s new-style inspections of maternity services, we do check up on this and ask women about their experiences of commercial representatives on maternity wards. Should we identify concerns, we would expect the provider to put systems in place to ensure that the privacy and dignity of patients is protected.

Since April 2014, CQC’s inspection teams use the following prompts when they visit maternity wards:
  • Does the service work with any commercial company which offers women and families information and/or free samples and/or seeks to gather personal information from women and families?
  • How does the service ensure that when women and families are accessing maternity care they have the choice about whether they wish to be approached by such a company?
  • How does the service ensure that any company representative maintains privacy and dignity of women and families especially at those times when women may be more vulnerable?


If there is sufficient evidence to suggest the practice is infringing on a woman’s privacy, CQC inspectors inform hospital administration of the concern. Hospitals then make the decision to ban or restrict access of representatives.

If you have experienced poor care, or you know that poor care is being given somewhere, you can report it to CQC, including anonymously if you would prefer. Every piece of information CQC receives about experiences of care is looked at by CQC inspectors. CQC uses it to decide when, where and what to inspect. At times, the information you share may lead CQC to contact a service for more information. Other times, CQC may carry out a responsive inspection or bring forward an inspection we had already planned. To Share Your Experience of care, follow this link: www.cqc.org.uk/share-your-experience-finder
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 15:42

@lentilpot

My husband was left traumatised by my son's birth - i had a large pph, the room filled with people caring for me, but nobody told him what was going on so he was left ignored in the corner, holding a baby and thinking he was watching his wife bleed to death. We have since spoken to many other fathers who had similar experiences. Does the cqa have any guidelines for supporting fathers during birth? I fully understand women should come first but our whole family suffered as a result of the impact this had on us.


Dear Lentilpot,

I’m so sorry you and your husband had such terrible and frightening experiences when your son was born. Although CQC doesn’t produce guidelines we do use published national evidence based standards and guidance in our framework when we inspect to gather evidence make judgements about the safety and quality of the service.

You say that your whole family has suffered as a result of the impact this has had on you and although I know you’ve talked with other fathers who have felt the same, I wondered whether you’d feel comfortable getting in touch with the Head of Midwifery where your son was born to arrange for you and your husband to discuss this? If that’s not good for you, your GP could be the right person to talk to about your experience and how you are feeling. You had a horrific experience and you deserve support to deal with this.

From CQC’s point of view, if a PPH has been greater than 1000mls a trust should have carried out a serious incident investigation and CQC’s new regulation around Duty of Candour sets out some specific requirements that providers must follow when things go wrong with care and treatment. This includes informing people about the incident, providing reasonable support, providing truthful information and an apology when things go wrong.

To share your experience with the CQC, follow this link: www.cqc.org.uk/share-your-experience-finder
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 15:46

@ChickenLaVidaLoca

Hi Rona.

Many women on MN have posted about having to look after their new babies overnight soon after having had sections or difficult vaginal births, and how problematic this was for them. We are talking women with many stitches in either abdomen or perineum, sometimes a catheter, still woozy from anaesthesia, frightened of dropping their babies. Sometimes they even resort to having the baby in the bed with them, which poses obvious safety issues due to the impossibility of safe cosleeping in that situation. Given the wholesale abandonment of well baby nurseries, this is an increasingly common problem. Not all women want to room in with their babies or are capable of doing so safely, and there aren't always enough staff to assist them in caring for their babies overnight when they need help to do so. How do you see this problem being solved?

Please don't respond simply with something about rooming in encouraging breastfeeding, as there's nothing to prevent women who want to breastfeed but are unable to safely look after their babies immediately post-birth from leaving the baby in the nursery overnight and having the baby brought to them to feed. This issue is about a lot more than that, particularly since well over a quarter of new mothers do not breastfeed at all.


Hello ChickenLaVidaLoca,

I know it can be really hard to rest in a postnatal ward, amongst people you don’t know, with your newborn and surrounded by other babies’ crying. CQC sees that some maternity units organise the environment and people’s competing demands a lot better than others and we can comment about this when we’re reviewing a maternity unit.

We consider staffing levels on postnatal care when we inspect a maternity service against the standards in our inspection framework and we always ask women in postnatal care about their experiences. Our inspection framework includes NICE Guidance G37 on Postnatal care which recommends that parents should be informed about the risks of co-sleeping.

When we have evidence of concern such as the ones you are talking about we raise this with the provider as we expect them to provide safe, quality care for all women and babies throughout the whole of 24 hours and throughout the whole week.

Knowing about people’s experiences of maternity care is a vital part of CQC’s inspections and when we visit any maternity service we ask women and families about this.

This year we are also carrying out our national survey of women’s experiences of maternity services. At the moment, women who had their babies in February are being invited to take part in CQC’s 2015 national survey about women’s experiences of maternity care:
www.cqc.org.uk/content/surveys.

Findings from the survey will be used by trusts to benchmark themselves with similar maternity services and will highlight where they are getting things right and where there are problems which they should take action to improve on. CQC uses the results as part of the way we monitor the quality of a service.
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 15:48

@OliveCane

Hi Rona,

After a 12 hour labour and with stitches and completely exhausted, the midwife expected me to change the baby's nappy and put on baby's clothes! I didn't even know how to put a nappy on! Seriously, shouldn't there be more one to one help available during this time? How can women be expected to look after a tiny baby after a major operation/traumatic procedure?


Hello OliveCane,

Feeling exhaustion after giving birth would make any new task hard. I’m really sorry you didn’t get the kind of support you needed. Would you feel comfortable e-mailing the Head of Midwifery at the trust where you had you baby to let them know about this? Of course no maternity service gets it right all the time, but every service should want to continually improve so that people’s experiences are as positive as they can be. I would expect them to show an interest in your case as they can use your complaint to make improvements to the service, making it more likely that every woman can have the best start as a new mother.

To share your experience with the CQC, follow this link: www.cqc.org.uk/share-your-experience-finder
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 15:55

@Guyropes

I have read on the antenatal pages on mn that in certain locations, home birth is being encouraged, yet it is clear that in other locations it isn't. I recognise that things have changed hugely with regard to the availability of home birth in the last 20 years, but can you explain why some localities encourage it while others don't?


Hello Guyropes,

NHS Choices (www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/where-can-i-give-birth.aspx) explains this saying ‘The choice you have about where to have your baby will depend on your needs and risks and, to some extent, on where you live’.

The Birthplace in England Research Programme (www.npeu.ox.ac.uk/birthplace) recently highlighted an expansion of midwifery-led settings (particularly midwifery units located alongside an obstetric unit) and this may be influencing variations in women choosing birth at home or accessing midwifery-led unit. The Which? website also includes Birth Choice pages with a tool to help a woman make choices that are right for her about place of birth (www.which.co.uk/birth-choice/find-and-compare)
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 15:55

@Pico2

I had disappointingly poor care when I had my first child. We accepted the offer of attending a birth afterthoughts session with a midwife. I was disappointed with this - there was an attitude of "it isn't in your notes, so it didn't happen" with fairly sparce notes and that nothing went wrong except their communication with us. We haven't been alone in finding our local maternity services very resistant to acknowledging poor care. I understand that they don't want to end up with lots of legal claims for negligence. But shouldn't there be a way of maternity service providers learning from the experience of service users and being able to let those parents know that their feedback has been acted on?


Hello Pico2,

I’m sorry you felt you had poor care when you had your baby, and it’s such a shame you also had a disappointing experience at your birth afterthoughts session. It takes a lot of energy and emotional work to come to the point of having such a session and you sound as though you still would want to help the service to learn and improve.

Do you feel you could now raise your complaint though the trust’s complaints process? Every NHS trust should have such a pathway – see
www.nhs.uk/choiceintheNHS/Rightsandpledges/complaints/Pages/NHScomplaints.aspx

And of course , please contact CQC at www.cqc.org.uk/share-your-experience-finder if you feel that you have not had a satisfactory response.
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 15:56

@lauren222

I would repeat the question by PenguinsAreAce regarding bounty reps having access to wards. I have heard several accounts of these people invading parents' privacy post-birth and asking very inappropriate questions to parents who have had a traumatic birth experience or suffered a loss. Not to mention that they sell on your details to third parties resulting in lots of junk mail and often tell people that you can only get the child benefit form through them. I put in my birth plan that I didn't want to be approached by a bounty rep. My wishes were not respected.

My next question is around how CQC can look at the treatment of tongue-tie within its inspection methodology. My son was born with a severe tongue tie which meant that he could not breastfeed. We had to wait 2 weeks for the separation procedure to be carried out. Luckily we were able to get breastfeeding established after this, however, I suspect that if we had waited much longer it would not have been possible.

My last question relates to the training of midwives in relation to diagnosis of posterior positioned babies. Despite numerous examinations my baby was only diagnosed as being in posterior position until I reached 9cm after 30+ hours of labour. I ended up having an emergency c section. I know that he was in this position from the outset as my contractions started off so painfully that I was on my hand and knees from the beginning and couldn't speak during the contractions. There were other signs that I think the midwives should have picked up on such as turning up at hospital only 2cm dilated but unable to manage with the pain and clutching my back for the whole labour. I kept being told that the baby was head down but I don't think that the midwives had the skills to determine anything beyond that. To be honest, this has led to me losing confidence in midwifery care and I look forward to being under consultant-led care next time.


Hi Lauren222,

Please see my response above to PenguinsAreAce regarding the presence and practices of commercial representatives in maternity services.

Tongue-tie makes breastfeeding so much harder– congratulations on establishing lactation during the 2 weeks you waited for your son to be treated. Although recognising and treating it early is really important to breastfeeding, CQC looks it as part of care for newborns when we inspect a service. We would expect that a maternity service would be using a standard such as the NICE interventional guidance (www.nice.org.uk/guidance/IPG149) for treatment.

I’m so sorry to hear that your baby’s position was misdiagnosed in labour and that you feel you’ve lost confidence in midwifery care. Heads of Midwifery I know would want to hear when something has gone wrong with the care, or when care could have been better.

If you could bear to contact the Head of Midwifery where you gave birth and book a meeting to talk with her about your experience I would hope they would want to hear your story and use your experience to improve.
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 15:57

@Emrob86

Do you feel that there is a shortage of midwives?


Hello Emrob86,

We always look at midwifery and medical staffing when we inspect a maternity service and review whether the right level and number of staff are available, both 24 hours a day and though 7 days a week. We also review use of non-permanent staff, and the trust’s recruitment plans if their staffing levels are too low. We use this information to help make a judgement about the service. For some trusts, it is harder to recruit and retain staff.
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 15:58

@Duckstar

I would repeat AbbeyRoadCrossing question. Encouraging partners to stay 24 hrs appears to be an attempt to deal with staff shortages on maternity wards. I spent 11 days on a postnatal ward. Partners were allowed 12 hrs per day and to be honest that was bad enough. The ward was noisy and busy. How come if I was in an I growing toenail it would be unacceptable for me to be on a mixed ward, but post-birth, bleeding, catheterised, leaking milk it's fine for me to be sleeping on a ward with various men? What will the CQC do to ensure the feelings of all maternity patients are respected?


Hi Duckstar,

It can feel impossible to rest in a postnatal ward, amongst women (and men) you’ve never met before, with your newborn and surrounded by other babies’ crying.

When we carry out an inspection under our ‘Caring’ domain we particularly look at whether staff treat and involve people with compassion, kindness, dignity and respect.

For example we ask: “How do staff make sure that people’s privacy and dignity is always respected, including during physical or intimate care?”

We know some maternity units organise the environment and people’s competing demands a lot better than others. However where we have evidence that privacy and dignity are not being respected we can require that the provider takes steps to improve.
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 15:59

@RugBugs

My maternity hospital has historically been understaffed and this was flagged as a concern at their last inspection. After a recruitment drive they're now staffed to the CQC advised safe ratios but the local commissioning group are refusing to fund at that level creating a budget deficit. Why are the commissioning group allowed to choose to only fund below what the CQC has determined to be a safe amount of midwives?


Hello RugBugs,

When CQC inspects a registered maternity provider we consider whether the service is safe, effective, caring, responsive and well-led for all the women and families it serves.

We expect registered providers to meet safe staffing levels, and in maternity care this would mean using evidence-based guidance such as NICE NG4 Safe midwifery staffing in maternity care settings (www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ng4) and RCOG guidance about medical staffing in maternity services
(RCOG 2012 Reconfiguration of Women’s Services in the UK)
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 16:00

@Changenamechange

On the postnatal ward after the birth of my third child I witnessed the following:

A first time, very young mum, after a traumatic, fast and early birth (with no birthing partner present) asking the bounty lady to hurry up and finish the photos on three separate occasions so that she could breastfeed her baby ( the second feed of the baby's life). Each time the bounty lady bought for more time to finish the photos ( taking an additional 10 minutes). The young woman had not even passed urine after the birth yet.

This young woman was in absolutely not fit mental or physical state to deal with a bounty rep, as I imagine is the case for the vast majority of women on post natal ward.

Why are they allowed in the ward at all? When will women's and baby's needs come first in this issue?

And with all due respect, please don't give me the standard answer of; we have few complaints, and women like the service being offered.


@MissTwister

I would echo concerns about the Bounty Reps. Post Natal wards are no place for private marketing companies to be hawking their wares to vulnerable women. My local hospital has a sign up telling women to 'look out for their friendly rep' after they've given birth. This is hugely inappropriate as the service provides little to nothing of use for women and is solely a cash making exercise for the NHS yet I know several people with, frankly, horror stories about the hassle they have received from the reps at what should be a private and personal time. What is your organisation doing to look into this?


Hi Changenamechange & MissTwister,

Please see my response above to PenguinsAreAce regarding the presence and practices of commercial representatives in maternity services.
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 16:00

@Sparky888

What does the CQC do to check/audit that patients are informed of their right to choose a c-section, and that the risks associated with vaginal birth are also explained during the consent process?

Does the CQC require a target for reducing the number of c-sections. If so, on what clinical evidence?


Hi Sparky88,

When we inspect a service, CQC gathers evidence using a range of methods to determine whether people’s consent to care and treatment is always sought in line with legislation and guidance. For example, when I inspect a maternity unit I often spend time with women waiting to be seen in the antenatal clinic and ask them about discussions they’ve had with maternity staff and whether they feel happy that they’ve had the right information, at the right time, to make their choices about things like screening tests and options for where to have their baby.

Some services are innovative about the way they offer information and support for women with particular needs, such as people who don’t speak or read English, or who have learning disabilities, and we take note of this in our assessment of the quality of the service.
We always look at the way consent has been recorded in maternity notes and make a judgement about whether staff are doing it correctly – because if they are not, that’s something that has to be pointed out to the provider and we expect them to take action to ensure that the legal requirement for informed consent is met.

We also talk with women about their experiences of being approached for consent to find out whether they feel that they were part of the decision making process. We don’t just look at the quality of consent for a caesarean section, we also look at consent surrounding having an episiotomy, perineal suturing also requires informed consent.

CQC doesn’t have a required target for caesarean section in a trust, but we do monitor and investigate the rate of caesarean section to make a judgement about whether care is being delivered safely and effectively.
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 16:02

@gallicgirl

What are you doing to promote informed consent from mothers?

I often hear "I wasn't allowed. .." or "the midwives wouldn't let me....." or even " i don't know what happened ".

Midwives should be fully advising of all benefits and risks and making sure mothers understand the decision to consent or not is theirs (mother).


Hi Gallicgirl,
CQC is concerned with whether people’s consent to care and treatment is sought in line with legislation and guidance.

When we inspect a maternity service, we look to find out whether women have been offered information to help them make the decisions that are right for them about their care, and whether they feel they’ve been supported in the decisions they make.

It’s sad that you’ve often heard women saying they ‘weren’t allowed’ or ‘the midwives wouldn’t let me’ or that they ‘…don’t know what happened’. Complaints and suggestions from the people who use a service should be used to help improvement, so I’d encourage any women who has had the kind of experiences you describe to contact the Head of Midwifery in the trust where she’d had her maternity care in order to discuss the care she received.

Every NHS trust should have a pathway for complaints see:
www.nhs.uk/choiceintheNHS/Rightsandpledges/complaints/Pages/NHScomplaints.aspx And of course, please contact CQC at www.cqc.org.uk/share-your-experience-finder if you feel that you have not had a satisfactory response.
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 16:03

@Thurlow

Is the CQC involved in any way in ensuring that it is easier to transfer from maternity services in one area/PCT to another area?

When pregnant I found this a huge difficulty. I knew I would be moving late in my pregnancy to a completely different county. This meant that the community midwives where I lived for the first 30+w of my pregnancy didn't discuss birth choices or anything like that, but by the time I was "booked in" with my new maternity team after moving, at 34w it was considered too late to discuss choices.

The maternity team from the first place said they were not able in anyway to contact the maternity team where we were moving to, or help me find contact numbers, or in anyway make the process just a tiny bit less stressful and worrying.

It all worked out fine in the end but I did miss out on a lot - discussion of birth choices, hospital tours and all that - and I feel it isn't that unusual a circumstance. I'd be interested to know if the CQC are involved or have any thoughts on assisting maternity services throughout the UK communicating with each other and working together to deliver useful maternity services to women who may either be moving or know they will be travelling to be with family (for support) to give birth.


Hi Thurlow,
I’m sorry you had such an unhappy experience when you transferred from one maternity service to another during your pregnancy. I know it’s not unheard of for women to move home when they’re pregnant.

At the moment, this is not something that CQC is involved in. However, I encourage you to share your experience with CQC at www.cqc.org.uk/share-your-experience-finder, as we will use the information you give us to help us assess the quality and safety of the service.
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 16:04

@cherryade8

Hi, what is being done to improve breastfeeding support and advice on maternity units and in the community? In my experience the midwives had a really poor and basic understanding of breastfeeding and were very unsupportive. Conversely the NCT had excellent breastfeeding counsellors who were really encouraging and had a brilliant knowledge and it was as a result of them that I breastfed for two years. If I'd stuck with the midwives then I'd have been lucky to breastfeed for two weeks!

Thanks!


Hi Cherryade8,

I'm really sorry to know you didn't have a good experience of breastfeeding support from midwives. Would you feel able to e-mail the Head of Midwifery at the trust where you had your baby to let them know about your experience? I would expect them to be interested in what you have to say so that they can use your complaint to make improvements in the service and to make it more likely that every woman can have the best start as a new mother.
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 16:05

@MrsHathaway

For my most recent pregnancy (DC3) I had excellent patient-centred pregnancy, home delivery and post-natal care with One 2 One Midwives (here) who are a private company offering NHS services. They appear to be pioneers in areas such as hypnobirthing, delayed cord clamping, physiological third stage, etc.

The quality of care available with a familiar face in one's own home and very frequent contact (more than double what I would have had under my local hospital) was fantastic. I am evangelical about the benefits to the pregnant/post-natal woman and her child. Without going into detail, it's quite possible the relationship I had with my assigned midwife saved my life.

However I understand there are issues regarding the funding of such services - although on paper a One2One pregnancy is cheaper to the NHS than a hospital-led birth, the complications of when payments are made to service providers can mean a Trust provides maternity services without getting paid for them.

Anyway, tl;dr version:

I had a home birth with a midwife from a private company paid for by the NHS and I thought it was great.

(1) What is the future of home birthing in the UK?

(2) What place will private companies have in driving innovation and improvement in maternity services within the NHS?


Hello Mrs Hathaway,
As you know, choice of home birth is national policy and I’m looking forward to the report from NHS England’s National Maternity Review and its contribution to this debate
(www.england.nhs.uk/2015/04/24/julia-cumberlege/).

CQC regulates providers of maternity services whether they operate privately or in the NHS, and when we inspect any provider we are keen to recognise innovation and improvements in our reports.
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RonaMcCandlish · 30/06/2015 16:06

@Lailai84

i also work as a HCA (Healthcare Assistant) i would like to know, why are the NHS pressuring staff in regards of service user care but in the same breath taking away resources that help staff to give the care that is required??


Hello Lailai84,
When we inspect maternity services we see the vast majority of NHS frontline staff working hard to deliver safe and high quality care in the tough public sector economic climate.

While CQC understands that many trusts are experiencing budget cuts, inspectors must ensure that a service continues to meet the fundamental standards:

  • Is care or treatment tailored to a patient’s needs and preferences
  • Are patients treated with dignity and respect at all times while they're receiving care and treatment
  • Has the patient (or anybody legally acting on the patient’s behalf) given consent before any care or treatment is given to them
  • The patient must not be given unsafe care or treatment or be put at risk of harm that could be avoided
  • The patient must not suffer any form of abuse or improper treatment while receiving care
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Bovnydazzler · 03/07/2015 22:28

Thank you for taking the time to answer some tough questions.

I also agree that there is no reasonable justification for allowing bounty reps on the ward, they serve no sensible, public duty purpose other than for commercial reasons. The child benefit form excuse is awful, any community midwife can give it out and howany mothers are incapable of going onto gov.uk.

You advise of patients having to give informed consent. I'd say this is impossible when you are allowing seemingly official people walk round the wards whilst they are often in pain, emotional, and exhausted, how can you genuinely talk of informed consent?

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