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AnnMumsnet · 10/11/2017 08:12

We have been asked to find out about your childs’ experiences of bullying and to hear your tips on dealing with bullies by Andy Day and the Anti Bullying Alliance. Andy is one of the most popular faces on children’s TV as a presenter on Cbeebies.

Andy, with his band ‘Andy and the Odd Socks’, are also patrons of the Anti-Bullying Alliance and next week (13-17 Nov) they will be encouraging primary schools up and down the country to take part in Anti-Bullying Week. It's a cause Andy is very passionate about and is one of the reasons he formed the band. He believes that music is not only great entertainment for children, but is also a great way to inspire them to be accepting of each other and to show everybody is different in their own way.

Andy and the Odd Socks say “we are all about putting across a positive, inclusive fun message via our new song ‘Unique’ which has been chosen by the charity to support their message this year of ‘All Different, All Equal’”.

See below for the video for 'Unique' by Andy and the Odd Socks.



The Anti-Bullying Alliance say “the aim of the campaign is help young children understand that everyone is different and to celebrate that from an early age. The main focus of the week is the introduction of ‘Odd Socks Day’ (the official Odd Socks Day is Monday 13th November (but schools can still take part and hold an Odd Socks Day at any time)), whereby Primary Schools and their pupils are encouraged to wear odd socks for the day to promote individuality, being unique, a sense of self and awareness for the overall aim of the week....to say NO to bullying”.

So Andy and the Alliance would love to hear how you and your child have coped with bullies, any tips on avoiding being bullied and also your experiences and thoughts generally about bullying amongst primary school aged children.

Add your comment below and you will be entered into a prize draw where one person will win a £300 voucher for the store of choice - from a list.

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GetKnitted · 30/11/2017 22:02

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AnnMumsnet · 29/11/2017 11:04

Thanks for all the comments and stories.

The team at Anti Bullying Alliance say - although this thread is now closed, if you need support, help or advice, you can visit the website for more info or the Kidscape website for further advice on this topic.

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cather · 28/11/2017 22:06

Luckily my sons haven't been bullied but my son's best friend's brother commited suicide because of online bullying. The school dealt with it very well and we have talked about it a lot and stressed the importance of talking to someone about it and not bottling everything up.

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Helsbells68 · 28/11/2017 15:09

When we were looking at possible junior school for our youngest we asked one head teacher what their policy on bullying was and his response was that bullying didn't happen there, so that was an instant red flag. In the end we took both our children out of school and home educated them, that way they could interact with others on their own terms and not in a forced environment.

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Carriecakes80 · 25/11/2017 19:28

When I was a child I was tied to a tree by my neck by bullies. I was an over weight kid, with buck teeth, terribly ugly! I did not have an easy time of it at all. I was hit, punched, bitten, thrown to the floor, used as a verbal punching bag, and school to me was a place of fear and terror.
To deal with the bullies, I was told to 'Get prettier!'
My parents removed me from the school and I had to start all over again, and I didn't know which was worse tbh.
When my own children started school, I felt I was quite clear about bullying. Its.Not.Allowed. and under no circumstances would I accept it for them.
They knew If they are bullied, or feel unhappy with how other children are treating them, they are to stand up for themselves and tell the child that they are upset, and if it carries on they will tell the teacher. If said Bully ignores this, then my child will get the teacher involved, and if anyone ever tries to hurt them, and they can't get away or are grabbed and can't run away, they are allowed to kick the ankles!

Also, I used to explain to my kids, who are all amazingly good looking (not from me lol) that there are kids who might be very different from them, have different views, look different, and while they might think its funny and laugh along with the jibes, inside they are dying for someone to be their mate, and I hope I have instilled how horrendous my own school life was, and how if one person had stood up for me, I would have been the happiest girl alive.
I think also it is important for your child to know it IS ok to fight back sometimes. I could have died when I was tied to that tree, because I wouldn't have dreamed of hurting anyone or fighting them off because of how I was bought up never to attack back.
My kids wouldn't hurt a fly, but they do know if they feel they are in danger then yes, they can and should protect themselves.

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farhanac · 25/11/2017 03:35

Important to teach them to be kind but also to be tough

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Jocelynne123 · 24/11/2017 23:14

Communication with your child is the most important thing. They have to feel comfortable to talk to you as soon as it starts. While they are young I think it's easier to go into the school and have the it dealt with. It gets more difficult as your child gets older. Luckily I have never had to deal with it with my daughter but have always taught her never bully and everyone deserves a friend. She's very emotive so she hates seeing anyone bullied xx

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Tonkatol · 24/11/2017 23:07

My DD left primary school in July and has recently started secondary school. I have 4 children and had a child at this primary school from January 2000 until July 2017. My relationship with the school was great and I have many fond memories of my children's time there. Unfortunately, my youngest DD had a rough time during some of her schooling; initially, I was happy with the way things were dealt with but, at the start of her final year, a new head was appointed and that, combined with a new class teacher ruined her final year.

The problem my daughter had was that she was happy to play with anyone. During Year 3, two girls in her year had a major falling out and there were lots of issues between them. My DD was used to play with and comfort one of these two girls. Over a period of time, they established a good friendship so that they became best friends. This was fine, until the friend moved on to someone else during Year 5. My daughter was upset, but still had other friends to play with.

My DD's friend had SEN and her DM was always going into the classroom to complain about something. An example of this was, in year 4, the class teacher said something she didn't like so she took her DD out of school for two weeks as she wanted an apology. Anyway, once the two girls weren't friends, the DM would constantly go into school and complain about anything and everything my DD did. Complaints were ridiculous - like her DD didn't like my DD playing and mixing with certain children. It got really bad and the friend would go out of school and tell her DM that she had had a terrible day because of my DD and the DM would stare at my daughter and go into the classroom. I must explain that, for the most part, my DD had not done anything (I know we all say this but I'm trying to explain that it was mainly the DM who had the problem). I am disabled and, as my daughter was in Year 5, she would either go to school alone, or I would wait in the car for her as I was unable to get into the school grounds.

Things got so bad that I spoke to DD's teacher, who was very supportive and it was then brought up with the head, who was also supportive. He started to patrol the playground before and after school and said that if there was anymore intimidation by the DM, then she would be banned from waiting in the playground. Year 5 wasn't great, but I talked to my DD about how to behave and to ignore the "friend's" DM and she managed the year quite well.

Fast forward to Year 6. As soon as the school year started, the "friend's" DM started on my daughter in the playground. She went to see the new teacher and the new Head within the first two days. My daughter came home from school on the second day in tears - another mother had gone up and "rescued" her from the other DM and I was furious. I arranged to see the head on the following day to sort things out.

Despite the notes on the records, the history from the previous teacher and my explanation, the head had spoken to the other DM and decided that she wanted to see the situation for herself. Fair enough, but in the meantime her solution was for my DD to go into class as soon as she arrived at school and then to leave school via a different door at the end of the day. I was not happy about this as my DD was being set apart when she had done nothing wrong but we agreed to try. Three days later, as my DD went to leave school, the other DM was waiting in the corridor outside the class (not in the playground). Because of this, my DD chose not to go past her but out the normal door to avoid her. The other DM then followed her along the corridor and pushed past her. As this happened, the class teacher happened to come out - she saw DD heading towards the normal door and called her back to the classroom and told her she had been told to go out the other way and was bringing problems on herself so the school wouldn't support her in future. DD came home in tears. I was furious, spoke to the teacher and the head and clarified the situation. I also expressed my annoyance that my DD was being singled out, when she was not in the wrong. In Year 6, children are supposed to be left in the playground in the morning and collected from the gate in the evening, so they were allowing the DM more freedom anyway.

Fast forward a few months, I had spoken to another mum who was picking up another child from the Reception class near the Year 6 building and she was keeping an eye out for my daughter. My DD chose to play with her friends in the morning and go out the normal way, knowing there was someone she could turn to if necessary. There were still problems but, by talking through them with my DD, we managed the remainder of the year. On one occasion, another mother complained about "friend's" DM - the result was she was banned from the playground for a week. The two girls have ended up at the same secondary school - the primary school wrote to the secondary school suggesting that the girls be kept apart and my DD is now in the opposite half of the year to the other child and doesn't mix with her very often at all. My DD has made new friends and goes off to school happily in the morning.

My anger at this whole situation was that, it is one thing to try and help your DC with bullying from their peers. However, in my DD's case, it was not a child but an adult who was doing the bullying and the school, who should have looked out for her, failed in Year 6 to protect her. It is very hard to protect children when the school aren't on board.

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pixelwife · 24/11/2017 22:23

My son hasn't been bullied as such but sometimes children can say cruel things and he's quite sensitive so I've talked to him about sharing any concerns with me and daddy, or with his teachers. I've also said to him that if he sees someone else being left out or having mean things said to him, that he should do the right thing and be a friend to them!

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lucyrobinson · 24/11/2017 22:08

I tell my kiddies they can tell me anything. Especially if anybody is horrible to them. I tell them not to retaliate and tell a teacher.

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missymousey · 24/11/2017 21:32

I'm doing some anti-bullying activities with my Guides this week after one of the girls came to me in tears about another girl being mean to her. She wouldn't name names so it's whole group stuff focusing on how we can keep two of the Guide Laws: "a Guide is a friend and a sister to all Guides" and "a Guide faces challenge and learns from her experience". So, partly focused on bullies, partly on bystanders, and partly on turning round our own perceptions so that we don't have to get upset.

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clarabella12 · 24/11/2017 20:59

it's such a difficult topic as an adult we know it's because their brains aren't mature but the hurt and pain their actions can cause a child is terrible!

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soozybee1 · 24/11/2017 20:17

try to have friends from each group

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srobbo71 · 24/11/2017 19:12

Bullying is such a difficult topic as you don't want your child to be a bully nor to be bullied. My daughter refused to join in with her "friends" when they bullied special needs kids in her Primary school which led to her being excluded from the group and ultimately being bullied herself. She actually has an autistic brother and is going through assessment herself but this is all after the fact. All the tips we gave her didn't help her as the people who bullied her did so in quite a subtle way - dancing next to her and accidentally bumping her. Spraying her with perfume to make her smell better, whispering and giggling while looking over at her constantly. All whittled away at her already low self esteem. I'd say "stay strong, you're better than them, they're jealous of something about you" but nothing worked. She is now getting help from specialist services and attends a hospital school. Sad but bullying is so damaging.

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kerryanna · 24/11/2017 19:11

We have discussed this many times in our house and Mr A has very different opinions to myself. I have always tired to explain to my kids that firstly there is nothing wrong with them, there is obviously something not right in the bullies life to make them behave in such away, whilst its not right we have to try to be empathetic even if what they are doing hurts and upsets us. Secondly, Speak up, find the nearest trusted grown up, teacher, dinner lady etc and tell them. I taught my son the Sticks and stones song and ask them what they can learn from it and my DS said that it makes him realise the kind of person he doesn't want to be. They are always to tell me the fully story and outcome and then I can decide what action, if any to pursue.

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VickyRsuperstar · 24/11/2017 19:00

I was bullied really badly in both primary and secondary school. Physically punched and kicked in primary and the abuse was verbal in secondary so bullying has always been a big worry of mine for my kids. Luckily my kids seem to have been OK and the schools are very much on top of it these days. My mother used to go to speak to the headmistress regularly but she used to just tell my mother that nothing like that went on in her school despite all my bruises. It was awful. She also told my mother to cut down on my TV and comics!!! so effectively I was punished for being bullied. I have no idea to this day why my mother took any notice of her :-( Anyway I always ask my children how they are doing and deal with any minor issues if they arise. I've also told them to tell me and the teachers if anyone is hurting them deliberately or calling them names.

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piggypoo · 24/11/2017 15:01

I was bullied terrible at primary school, wore thick NHS glasses, had a squint and was like a bean-pole! Yes, everything going for me! My Mother went up to the school, and was told by the Headmaster that I needed to have a better sense of humour and take the bullying as a joke, it was actual physical violence, taking my money, clothes, lunch, glasses, etc. I had a wide circle of friends, but oddly, the bullying didn't stop, it was mainly the boys who bullied me. I got one of the female teachers to help me write out a statement, and I read this in one of the assemblies, where I asked the bullies to stop, and basically shamed these kids up in front of the whole school. It did help a bit, but by then I was ready to leave and go to secondary school. I talked openly about this with my DC's and encouraged them to come to us with any concerns they have. Luckily they have not had any problems.

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HELENSCRESCENT · 24/11/2017 13:21

As someone who was bullied as a child it is one of my greatest fears that my children will experience and feel what i did. I think the most important thing is to believe your child and support them, dont minimize the bullys behaviour and do not stop until it has stopped. No bullying is EVER acceptable.

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SuzCG · 24/11/2017 12:39

This is a really important topic to discuss with your children. They need to know how to assess a situation if they are being bullied (or if they just have someone being a bit mean as kids can be) and to know how to stop it/get help. More importantly they need to know NOT to become the bully!
I talk openly to my two (11 & 8) and school have a lunchtime drop in centre for anyone who needs a 'chat' - they also have regular assemblies about this.
Communication is the key - they need to be able to talk to you or someone at school and understand that in serious situations this is not 'telling tales' but taking responsibility for their own wellbeing & safety.

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SuzCG · 24/11/2017 12:35

This is such an important topic to discuss with our children - they need to know about it so they can assess a situation and know if they are being bullied and how to stop it/get help - but more importantly so they know NOT to become the bully. It is important that they can tell the difference between someone just being a bit mean and unkind and being genuinely bullied (cause kids are sometimes just a bit too direct & cruel).
I have talked about it at home with both of my children (11 & 8) and they also have regular assemblies at school regarding it. School also have a drop in centre run by a support teacher every lunchtime - whereby kids can drop in for a 'chat' if there is anything they are worried about.
The best thing really is communication - that they know they can talk to me or a teacher at school - that it's not 'telling tales' in serious situations but taking control of their own wellbeing & safety.

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noynoyavery · 24/11/2017 11:25

We Home ed and have done for about almost 5 years now due to severe bullying at school and they didn't do a thing about it.When your child is screaming and crying he doesn't want to go to school and you have to walk the hour long trip twice a day , it really breaks your heart. It's legal , You don't need qualifications , we have so many more social and educational actvities and outings than we ever did at school and we see so much more of each other , we are currently studying for Gcses as external candidates, So much more happier. Just another option.

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Sloppychops · 24/11/2017 11:04

My children haven't really had any issues with bullying, but I've always told them to tell an adult if something makes them uncomfortable.

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Byrdie · 24/11/2017 10:58

My children haven't really had to deal with any bullying but I had to lots when I was a child and being resilient kept me going. I always tried to think about why they were doing it and came to the conclusion (which I now think was pretty good at aged 8 or so) that the bullies must just be very unhappy people and that it's best to try and be nice to them. It didn't always work and I got verbally and physically bullied a lot, but I look back and think that I'm a better person for having been bullied. I wouldn't want my children to go through it, but I do think it made me a positive person - oddly enough!

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Flickabella36 · 24/11/2017 10:48

I bought a great book when my daughter was having friendship problems called nobody likes me, everybody hates me. It's all about building resilience and empowering the child with skills so they know what to do!

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myboycraig · 24/11/2017 09:46

The thought of my children getting bullied scares the life out of me. I have always taught my children that no one is the same and you never know what anyone is going through. Always respect other people's feelings and talk to someone (myself, grandparents or teacher) if worried about bullying or someone else being bullied.

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