Is private or state school better for SEN

[mrspizza]

My son has been diagnosed with autism. Don't know what to do or how to do now. EHCP is not done yet. Is private or state school has better SEN support in general?

Thanks

[ADEmoyii23]

Thank you so much

[chrismarwan]

JUNE2007
I LIVE IN EGYPT .
Guardian will be in London but the school is very expensive.
need school 1 hour from London with sen unit
i received offer from saint felix is it good school ?

[june2007]

Well it depends I know epopel who are at the school my friend mooved from and are happy there. Where in the country do you want to be, no point mentioning a school that is not where you want to be. (Did you mention London, as we are not London.). Basically you need to look at the area you want to go to and find out what support the local schools give.

[chrismarwan]

june2007
he diagnosed mild ADHD
i don't know how to find good school assist my son
if u know mainstream school can accept ADHD and assist him
pls advise SCHOOLS Names

[june2007]

Depends on child and school. I know children who have mooved from schools which are meant to provide more support to schools which don,t because the"normal" school was actually better then the one with the additional support. So in other words it,s not just about whats on paper. My nephew is in mainstream but my sister has had to fight for the right support,. I was in mainstream and got a lot of support.

[chrismarwan]

please list me boarding school independent with sen unit with reasonable fees

[chrismarwan]

need consultant in uk Free to find me a school

[slightlybothered]

ADEmoyii and chrismarwan - try looking here: //www.senschoolsguide.com

[chrismarwan]

Hello
am looking for a full boarding school for ADHD Mild age 10 years old
please advise name of good school with reasonable fees ?
near to London or faraway 2 hours from London
we are Egyptian and no experience
i don't know which type of school can accept my son ?
is anybody can advise
thanks a lot

[Ellie56]

"...on occasions we do find specific provision hard to get implemented as it is outside of the LA remit, even though the EHCP is legally binding."

Mike8791 The LA is legally responsible for securing all of the provision detailed in Section F. If the school are not putting the provision in place the LA have to make alternative arrangements. Although unfortunately, as you probably know, for the time being, the absolute duty has been replaced by a "reasonable endeavours " duty while the Covid-19 pandemic is ongoing.

[ADEmoyii23]

Hi,
I got a 10 year old son.. With ADHD, learning disabilities and Anxiety disorders...my plan is to move out of London to any suggested area... For his secondary scl.. Next year 2021.. But i honestly need help.. Can anyone suggest any good secondary.. Doesnt really matter how far out...

[Tainbri]

You could try the SEN education board on here through!!

[Tainbri]

Unless it's a mainstream school, the specialist schools tend to either be generic or dealing with spLD such as dyslexia, ASD etc. Your best bet is to get a list off the relevant local authority or do a search with regards to specific needs and do your own research. Unfortunately it is a lot of leg work and very exhausting.

[mrspizza]

Where I can ask around parents of children with Sen for school ? Any forum set by location here ?

[Comingupcabbages]

For my dd it is the private sector, we tried three state schools and were misled into thinking that she would have better support there.
She was bullied very badly in two and the third just left her to her own devices.

She gets excellent pastoral care in her school now and has stayed in the private sector since the age of seven.

All depends on schools though and LA.

[Mike8791]

One other thing, contact your local SENDIS service for a list of schools and specific advice on your local authority procedures.

[Mike8791]

My son has SEN and an EHCP. I wasn't sure whether you are referring to mainstream independent v state mainstream, in which case you might struggle to get an independent named. If you're paying yourself, you'll be looking at much smaller class sizes etc but each school differs anyway with its ethos and what it provides. Many can be academically "pushy" and of course can choose their own admission policies. My son goes to an independent "special" school because of his Sen. It is named on his EHCP. Many aspects are good but on occasions we do find specific provision hard to get implemented as it is outside of the LA remit, even though the EHCP is legally binding.

[TheNoodlesIncident]

You don't apply to the school exactly, you tell the LA of the area that you are moving to that you will require a school place. They are legally obliged to offer a place for your dc but it might not be at the school you would prefer. Infant classes are limited in numbers - 30 or fewer - so if your preferred school is full you would be allocated a place in a school that was undersubscribed.

Schools vary a lot with the quality of their SEN provision; some are very inclusive and will try their hardest to give the best support they can for your child, others will hope that you will look elsewhere. I found that schools with a reputation for being academic were the least interested in educating children with SEN. They cannot refuse to take your child if they have a space and you want your child to go there, but their lack of enthusiasm will almost certainly have a negative impact on your child, i.e. they might not provide the support your child needs in the hope that you will remove them.

Generally your best bet is to try to find a setting with a reputation of good SEN provision, and for that I would want to ask around parents of children with SN for school recommendations. All schools have a SEN policy which will be on their website, but whether you could trust what they say they will provide is debatable.

If you know which area you will be moving to, you should be able find support groups set up for parents of children with SN.

[mrspizza]

When I disclose sen to primary school, would state school have right to reject to take in my kid ? (Assuming I don't have EHCPs yet)

And in choosing mainstream schools, where can I find the school list that providing ranges of sen support? There r some private school search company specialize in Sen .. is it a reliable source?

[hatchypomagain]

I think it depends on the school, the support required and the type of SEN. I have 3 in private education, 2 with SEN (deafness) we spent a long time finding the appropriate school for them (non-selective at the early stage, engaging teachers, good SENCO, and small classes).

We also managed to get EHCPs completed in the schools and the additional support required is covered in this and the schools have gone beyond supporting the requirements of the EHCP, we pay the fees, but materials, TA support, technology are all covered by the EHCP.

I know private schools get a bad reputation for SEN, I guess I'm just saying that not all SEN or schools are the same. We spent months interviewing the schools to find ones that fitted.

[mrspizza]

Thanks all! Very good advice

[user1466518624]

Just to add as well in most Indies a lot of time is spent outside the classroom with specialist teachers which your son may not react well to. If you do get an ECHP State will be legally obliged to follow it. If I were to go down the Private route I would want if something existed some kind of contract that they would honour the ECHP.

[user1466518624]

Please be very careful with Private Schools. I know from bitter experience that they can convince you that they are for you, promise you the world to get your money and just throw your child out on a whim as they decide they cannot meet your child's needs. Also some will expect you to provide extra help or employ a TA and your fees could easily which in my area could easily amount to around £30,000 a year. There is a school near me with a separate SEN area which costs £5000 a term on top of fees. If the Indie is only at Primary level you will also need to be mindful of whether there will be provision in the Indie sector for Senior School and if the school does have Seniors whether your child would have automatic entry or you could find yourselves high and dry.

I am not saying avoid Private at all costs or to be the voice of doom but I am just saying to be very careful. Private schools generally will expect your child to fit in with them whereas State with good provision will be mindful and obliged to meet your little ones needs. Personally we went for a tiny rural state school and it has been amazing!