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So we were about to move my 8 week old into her own room...

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MamaErmintrude · 23/04/2017 22:43

... When this weekend age suddenly started sleeping through the night Shock we are grateful to all the gods in heaven for this highly unexpected turn of events and now we're scared to change anything in case it jinxes it! However if we don't move her we won't actually be able to take advantage of the fact she's sleeping through because she is SO noisy it's like sleeping in a zoo Hmm So - should we leave her in our room for a while so the sleeping through is embedded, or should we move her now so that it becomes embedded in her room rather than risking a change in a few weeks which sets her back? Btw we know the SIDS advice about being in with us until 6 months and we're happy with the choice we're making to move her, just a question of when. PS this is not a stealth boast. Until she moves, we aren't sleeping even if she is!

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xhannahx · 01/05/2017 18:38

This is a very long thread, so apologies if this has already been said however I can COMPLETELY relate to the noisy sleeper. My dd has grunted in her sleep since 1.5 weeks old and it is like sleeping in Jurassic park...it is IMPOSSIBLE to sleep through...and it can go on for HOURS!

If you feel comfortable moving her, then I can completely understand and wish we had the courage. It seems to be a rare thing that some babies do and only those whose babies also do it can appreciate the level of noise you are dealing with.

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Desmondo2016 · 26/04/2017 23:28

Oh and I meant to say transitioning both what she slept in AND where she slept at the same time and no impact whatsoever, positively or negatively.

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Desmondo2016 · 26/04/2017 23:27

My 19 week old also made me feel like I was sleeping in a farmyard with the noises she made! She has slept 8-8 regularly since 8 weeks and we moved her from next to me crib into big cot in her own room at about 14 weeks. I'm merely stating the facts of what we did. You will not always follow guidelines with parenting so you have to make decisions you are comfortable with and have the confidence to implement them.

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honeycheeerios · 24/04/2017 16:11

Jeez what a nasty bunch.

Everyone is acting like the OP is putting the baby outside to sleep alone on the driveway Hmm

There is advice on pretty much every aspect of parenting, along with data and statistics on it all. Parents can choose what they wish to follow and what they wish to adapt to suit their needs or life style. There is no need to be so aggressive just because it's not what you do.

OP- I don't think that moving the baby to their own room will have any affect on whether they continue to sleep through or not. Teething, illness, sleep regression, increased hunger and growth spurts can all affect sleeping habits and the room they are in will make no difference. At such a young age is is unlikely they will Lee the same sleep routine for long.

It is considered safer to sleep close to parents for the first 6 months, and is easier in the night if the baby is right beside you. I would just leave the baby in your room and try and adjust to sleeping through the noise.

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EphraimWaite · 24/04/2017 15:48

FWIW mine slept through from 11 weeks and we moved her at 6 months without it making a jot of difference. I think if sleeping through is "embedded" the shift isn't likely to cause a disruption. Moving her now might.

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wintertravel1980 · 24/04/2017 13:11

Many people choose to ignore advice on co-sleeping/bed sharing. So called "safe co-sleepig" increases the risk of SIDS by 3 times:

bmjopen.bmj.com/content/3/5/e002299.full

(When neither parent smoked, and the baby was less than 3 months, breastfed and had no other risk factors, the AOR for bed sharing versus room sharing was 5.1 (2.3 to 11.4) and estimated absolute risk for these room sharing infants was very low (0.08 (0.05 to 0.14)/1000 live-births). This increased to 0.23 (0.11 to 0.43)/1000 when bed sharing.)

Putting baby into a separate room doubles the risk of SIDS:

edition.cnn.com/2016/10/24/health/sids-sleep-in-same-room/

In other words, having a baby in a different room is actually safer than "safe" co-sleeping. It is up to the parents to assess risks and make their informed decisions. Yes, the safest solution is to have the baby in the same room in a separate Moses basket / crib or cot but it is not always possible. Parents also have to keep their sanity (especially if they have other children to take care of).

I put my DD into a separate room when she was 12 weeks old. She is a light sleeper and hates being woken up during the night. However, she is good at self-settling (it took us a while to get there...) and she does love her cot (knock on wood!). I would not have done it had she not been able to self-settle. A baby that needs help going to sleep will most likely be impacted by the sleep regresssion so having them next to parents makes everyone's lives much easier.

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welshweasel · 24/04/2017 12:56

Keep her where she is and get some decent silicone ear plugs. Foam ones aren't great but with the silicone or wax ones all the irritating baby snuffles at drowned out but you still hear when they start to stir. We moved DS at 7 months, which in retrospect was too early, he'd been sleeping through from 10 weeks old but as soon as he started to crawl he was waking up loads and I hated having to trek back and forth in the night to settle him.

Assuming you're going to ignore all the advice you've been given, at least wait until after 14 weeks, when the SIDS risk starts to drop.

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Xmasbaby11 · 24/04/2017 12:42

So op, you are refusing to take on board the evidence about keeping your baby safe? I'm lost as to why you started the thread if you're going to ignore advice! I find it very sad you choose to disregard research about sids because it's not convenient to you.

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littledinaco · 24/04/2017 11:53

There is no evidence that baby monitors protect your baby from SIDS.

My third slept through from birth (breastfed) and it really worried me that he was at increased risk of SIDS as babies waking up frequently keeps them safe. Your babies sleep sounds great for 8 weeks but I would use the long sleep as a reason NOT to move her as she may be at increased risk.
Could you sleep in another room until she wakes at 5am and DH sleep with her?

She may be sleeping so well as she feels so secure you're right there,she can smell you,etc. If she wakes up on her own she may stop sleeping as well as she might feel less safe she's on her own.

I know it's not what you asked but have another read around SIDS, the risk may be small but the consequence would be devastating. It's such a short period of time in your life.

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Timetogrowup2016 · 24/04/2017 11:36

I don't think the op will come back now.
She's made her choice and insulting her doesn't make anyone look good

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AndNoneForGretchenWieners · 24/04/2017 11:36

I moved DS into his own room at about 3 months iirc. It was before the current guidance came out and he was getting too big for his crib (horror, we even had bumpers!). Similar to you, the bedroom was right next to ours. I don't think anything apart from guidance has changed since 2000, I do understand why people are so concerned but it's your risk to take.

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KukSoolWonKids · 24/04/2017 11:35

I am astonished by the Op's responses.
Your sleep is more important than the safety of your child!
You need a grip my lovely!!

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Cammysmoma · 24/04/2017 11:33

At 8weeks old I'd still have baby in with me.

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user1492287253 · 24/04/2017 11:32

I think i would move her now. You are happy with your choice. Fwiw dd1 stayed in with us for 10 weeks, dd2 for a week ( like you next door literally 5 steps) and dd3 for 6 months! Dd2 was and still is an incredibly noisy sleeper

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DixieNormas · 24/04/2017 11:27

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GuinessPunch · 24/04/2017 11:26

Cruel.

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BlankSpace1 · 24/04/2017 11:15

I think everyone has said enough now, and understandably she's leaving the thread.. there's plenty of comments and advice here go let her think! Let's just hope that her and baby are happy and well and continue to be that way 🙂

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YouCanDoThis · 24/04/2017 11:08

Whose idea was it to move her into her own room? I'm wondering how your partner reacts to being disturbed during the night or having his sleep disrupted. People are clearly frustrated that you are going against advice and that is a bit unusual IC breastfeeding. I may be completely wrong but are you feeling pressured in any way to do this, or minimise night time disturbance?

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BreatheDeep · 24/04/2017 10:55

You're not getting an answer to 'now or a few weeks' because no one thinks it's a good idea to move her. I'm also joining that chorus. And if she goes through the sleep regression like mine is (was sleeping like yours at 8 weeks, at 15 weeks it started getting worse again, now 18 weeks and he woke 4 times last night between 10pm and 5am) then you'll probably regret moving her to a separate room anyway.

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MamaErmintrude · 24/04/2017 10:54

Thank you to the latter few posters for your measured responses and blank space for the link - there's the monitor we've got!

To everyone else, I'm not sure how productive this thread is so I'm bowing out now Smile

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elevenclips · 24/04/2017 10:52

Keep her in with you.
Train yourself to sleep with noise. I did this out of necessity when I had a nocturnal neighbour who played music all night.

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FurryElephant · 24/04/2017 10:46

I agree with everyone else regarding keeping your baby in with you. She may well grow out of the noises soon! My DD was a noisy sleeper as well, fidgeting and grunting all night every night and then at some point around 13-14 weeks I realised she'd stopped! She still does it if I've drink fizzy drinks during the day or if she has a stuffy nose, but has mainly grown out of it. So if you do decide to follow the advice, it may not be noisy nights forever!

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CaptainBrickbeard · 24/04/2017 10:45

My first baby started sleeping through at 8 weeks; I will warn you though that at about 16 weeks he started going through a sleep regression and it all changed again. Baby sleep patterns change regularly and unpredictably! I know that desperation to find a set of rules that will work, but they are pretty chaotic little creatures (mine were very resistant to routine anyway!) Whatever you do now will not guarantee a continuation of this good sleep, I'm sorry to say, so I would also recommend following the guidelines.

I deeply sympathise wrt sleep deprivation; my youngest has health issues which mean I haven't had an unbroken night'sleep in over three years and I don't know when I will again. The toll on my mental and physical health has been great and I am drained and exhausted beyond anything I imagined I could cope with. I hope you find a way to get decent, restful sleep. But like everyone else, I couldn't recommend moving the baby at such a young age - however many people have done it with no consequence, no one could advise you to do the same just in case you were one of the unlucky ones.

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Haudyerwheesht · 24/04/2017 10:35

I honestly don't understand why you would risk going against SIDS advice. I mean imagine if the worst happened and you hadn't don't everything you could??

If she's 5 steps away in her own room then what's even the point? Both my babies were noisy sleepers - well I should say only one of them was because the other never slept! And yes it's hard to sleep sometimes but that's life. Being a parent is exhausting but she's slept through a couple of times - see how things go. You get used to the sounds they make And start being able to sleep and ignore. Or take it in turns to share a room with her.

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