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Year 7 targets.

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seeker · 15/05/2008 13:51

I've just come off the phone to a friend who's dd has been set level 7 as her target for the end of year 7 in all her "academic" subjects except MFL. She and her dd are pretty stressed about it - but she seemd to think it's quite normal. Is it? My dd is at a pretty high performing grammar school and her targets are all the the high 5 to high 6 range. My dd is nowhere near as clever as this other girl - but even so....! I suggested she queried it with the school and said she thought it a bit much to ask, but she says that "wouldn't reflect well" on her dd. What do you all think?

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SqueakyPop · 28/06/2008 05:44

It would be interesting to know how they came up with Level 7. It can really only be a teacher 'estimate', as the real Sats questions rely very much on Year 9 work to produce the Level 7 questions.

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littlejo67 · 28/06/2008 23:50

They give a end of term assessment that only has questions from that term. Therefore its not a test over the whole sylabus, but the score is given as a key stage 3 grade. My ds`s maths group (excellerated) was doing yr9 workbooks in yr7 and is now at end of yr 7 going into yr10 depth even though they are still in key stage 3. This is to keep them interested otherwise it would be so boring for them.

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ravenAK · 29/06/2008 00:23


I've said it before - the whole thing's a crock of sh*t.

Levels at KS2 do NOT equate to realistic levels in year 7. (Which are subject to 'grade creep' anyway, not least because of those wretched optional tests in y7 & 8.)

An inflated target will simply have been generated from KS2 SATs test result (marked by an overworked, underpaid & inexperienced teacher trying to fund her summer holiday, more likely than not), CAT results (not reliable across curriculum) & teacher assessment.

Any teacher setting/agreeing a L7 target in year 7 is a bit daft, frankly, because teachers have to show progression, or they don't get pay rises. So we routinely (consciously or not) mark DOWN at start of year, UP at end of year.

Oh & L7 in year 7 would be pretty outstanding if it represented genuine achievement. It's more likely that the school is using (unrealistic) 'upper quartile' targets (ie. 25% of students are likely to achieve their target) in an effort to cattle prod the kids a bit more.

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christywhisty · 29/06/2008 00:25

That probably sounds about right Littlejo

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christywhisty · 16/07/2008 20:26

A little update

DS got his report yesterday.
In science his current grade is 6a (which represents his results throughout the year) although it says he got level 7 in the end of year exam in the teachers comments.

Then in a box entitled

"A description of typical work required to reach next grade"
it says

"Work at this level represents exceptional performance in Science, and pupils working at this level have demonstrated achievement above that expected within the Key Stage."

I assume that means for a year 7 child.

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EllieLynch · 12/05/2016 06:11

My Daughter is in year 7 and she is very capable. She is a 7b in both reading and maths with 2-3 months before she breaks up. She's nearly level 7 in RE too despite not being religious

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Iamnotminterested · 14/05/2016 18:12

Levels do not exist any more, Ellie, isn't she being given GCSE grades?

BTW this thread is 8 years old, I'm guessing the OP's DD is at University now?!

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freshprincess · 14/05/2016 18:19

Are these targets across the board for all schools? My son's target is a 9, which according to this thread is impossible. (He's year 7)
He got 6s and 7s in the last set of tests, and he's quite disappointed that he's doing so badly. I'm a Confused

He's bright, but certainly not 'taking his GCSEs at 12' bright.

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freshprincess · 14/05/2016 18:19

Bah! Just saw its a zombie thread! You had me all worried then!

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nicp123 · 14/05/2016 19:51

DS at a grammar school. Their NEW levels state levels 7 and 8 targets as the norm.

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Cleo1303 · 15/05/2016 00:25

I know this sounds stupid but I've never heard of these levels. Is there a website somewhere which explains them?

Does this relate to exam result percentages?

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