No, this seems to be a common phenomena at the minute.

Lots of active threads on here about Jack Monroe behaving in a similar way, especially regarding pleading poverty and receiving donations from their followers. These threads haven't been deleted for focusing on someone that may be extremely vulnerable.

They were also reports online of her dealing rather insensitively(to say the least) with vulnerable followers to; repeated volatile rants and tweets asking followers to share stories with her in DMs, with little explanation why she is encouraging vulnerable survivors of DA to share private information with her?

As private citizen it would be wrong for Liz to be subjected to public scrutiny, but she has given repeated interviews and promoted the narrative of her book described as "searingly honest" So, I think it is reasonable to be asking in the public domain if story in the book is actually true? Has she omitted important details that actually are extremely important to the story. There has been a few scandals about this sort of thing recently.

These doubts about Liz's narrative have been raised repeatedly over the last few years- this isn't idle gossip, trolling or bullying of a vulnerable person. These are concerns about a self employed business woman/ writer promoting her brand and crowd sourcing money possibly using a false narrative .

Other websites like Tattle life (it's still full ladies, I checked) are reporting similar stories about Liz.

These threads haven't been deleted for focusing on someone that may be extremely vulnerable.

yeah, and they won't be either as long as Ad revenue is being generated.

Every additional person that clicks on one of those threads is just more dollar signs in their eyes

@LoekMa the previous two threads about Liz were deleted. The first one correctly so as it mentioned a court case that was subject to a court order . The second one because it was not in the “spirit” of the site as it was about a person who “may be extremely vulnerable” . Liz like jack Monroe reports that she has various mental health problems. I’m not a doctor so I can’t comment. 🤷‍♀️But the jack sites are still up so there is hope for this thread yet.

These threads had 200+ posts from lots of women, a few first time posters on sites such as this, who were rationally, calmly and often with great humour pointing out that the narrative peddled on line(for money) may be unreliable ! Lots of us had experiences of DV and DA ;diagnosed CPTSD; depression; single parenthood etc and we’re concerned with some of Liz’s behaviour online.

I think you have a very valid point OP and as you know I contributed to the previous threads.

I do think that there are valid points to be made about someone who claims to be an advocate for DA issues and asserts her own victimhood while also leaving out huge chunks of the story — and also literally blocking people who ask for advice on the very issues she advocates for.

However, there’s a fine line between that and making personal remarks which are irrelevant.

I doubt this thread will last for long as I suspect LF has plenty of money for legal action.

‘Other websites like Tattle life (it's still full ladies, I checked) are reporting similar stories about Liz.’

Most of the people posting on there appear deluded and quite ill. Not sure it’s the best place to direct people to if there’s a genuine issue.

What is it you actually want, op? Her story is published and you chose to buy it. It's too late for a more accurate version.

What you're darkly hinting at knowing through the Cambridge grapevine is unclear and melodramatic. It seems like you already disbelieve the account and have started the thread because you'd like to see this woman exposed as a liar.

Unless a group of independent people 'in the know' are prepared to give an account of what they personally witnessed to the contrary, you would be best not stirring up further interest in the book if you think it's not worth reading. The world will not stop spinning because one unremarkable family history is not strictly accurate.

It's also very naive to assume it was completely accurate in the first place. Neither publishers nor the memory work like that.

Just don’t click, follow , subscribe or buy. I don’t think the woman needs to be destroyed online and I am sure her ex partner could give his side of the story if he wished to

OMG, I scanned the title and got it into my one brain cell it was about Liz Truss !🙄(runs away and hides)

@Notaboutyouthistime the last two threads and did have numerous posts from people in the know. I am wary of how much to precis here due to the deletion of the last two threads, so I won't. It's a shame you didn't read the second thread.

Also friends of the ex wife of Mike have posted on Liz's twitter account numerous times asking her to "come clean" about the origin of their relationship in particular Liz's account of having no idea that he was an alcoholic before the relationship started. This narrative was not a subjective interpretation of events as you completely correctly stated that's what memory is! Apparently, it was just not true. The parts Liz have omitted and changed do not put her in a very good light, so I can see why she did it (maybe she should have published it anonymously). This is a bit of an issue when your current Twitter posts, past book promotion etc mention the importance of truth a lot and you are positioning yourself as a semi public figure.

Most of the thread was not about the book, but was that Liz was presenting herself as a solo parent really struggling financially to get by after being unable to work for 18 months due to CPTSD . This was on SM platforms where her tagged role as a DA survivor and ambassador for the NCDV was attracting vulnerable people. People were sending in donations because they must have thought she was in dire straights. Yes, people are free to do what they want, but for a start Liz owns two properties one she lets at £165 (off peak) in Venice; has numerous holidays and goes for coffees daily( a luxury for most at the minute!)Do you really think its appropriate to be pleading poverty, emphasising her mental health issues and glossing over her privileged position on those sites with links to how to donate to her to help her to write? Frankly as someone who has to flee their home as a child due to DV and experience crushing poverty as a result, it's at best tone deaf for her to say that is a struggle.

And you're absolutely right that the world will stop turning due to her book being inaccurate, but again it's not going to stop turning if people expose that in a thread on here.

Sorry, I just realised I am answering for @Replyingnow ! Sorry , but I'm not deleting it now @Replyingnow

@Lookingoutside I don't really know much about Tattle life and you may be right! I worry it's that thing of if women are collectively critical or challenging they are being bitchy, jealous trolls. I only have looked at it ages ago when Sali Hughes mentioned it as a kind of bullying cesspit of harpies type of thing. I had a look and it didn't seem that way, people were just challenging what she had been posting online etc- it was ages ago.
I looked again when someone on here mentioned it relating to Jack Monroe.... In fact I was a bit gutted as had been JM "fan".... in a recent interview Guardian seemed to confirm a lot of what had been said on Tattle Life.

Then the op should just say that she wants the woman exposed, rather than darkly hinting and stirring gossip that will only serve as publicity for the book.

It's one book. There are always many sides to a story and it's published now. It's too late to put a different version out so best to let it sink into obscurity.

@Beanchops

There’s definitely a collective delusion on there that things and people are just being “challenged”. A lot of talk about how they all have great jobs and lives of their own. There’s something off about that in particular and I just don’t buy it.

People are routinely attacked for their appearance, the way they talk, how they live, it goes on and on. The amount of speculation on the personal hygiene, mental and physical health, relationships (including family relationships) of the people they are ‘just challenging’ is weird and unhealthy not to mention cruel
and damaging to their targets.

If Tattle Life was fine and normal they would show their faces and use their real names. Posting on there is pure cowardice.

‘As long as people are honest and true they can’t be attacked.’

Yet they are.

Believe me that site isn’t the place to discuss a genuine issue.

No. You’re not. I’ve been on the previous two threads. Like you, I am genuinely interested in understanding the back story.

Why? Because Liz herself has made so many “can’t be named” allegations since the publication of the book, yet she is still actively profiting from the book. I’m also genuinely confused how the narrative changes. I’m also intrigued how through it all she has never put one step wrong.

Call me what you choose. I’m genuinely interested in what Liz has proactively put in the public domain for her followers. I am a follower because I bought her book and has genuine concerns for her. Since reading her book and following her posts, I can tell you that there are a lot of contradictions. This is not an issue at all. She can write and post what she chooses. The issue for me is I can’t help filling in the gaps. Maybe I am making 2+2=5 in error. Or maybe it does 🤔

I’ve now the added intrigue and interest because she now lives near to me in Oxford and we have similar aged children. I only know this because she posts this information on social. This is also how I know her daughter’s best friend name, because this too was posted on social. Possibly not the best thing to do, but it is not my daughter’s name.

Are ‘they’ bring honest and true?

For example, how Liz met Mike and her prior knowledge of his alcohol and other challenges are at best glossed over and at worst, well if you know, you know. Many in Cambridge do know and let’s say, it might be a great time to ‘come clean’ now life is seemingly looking to be on the up

I don't understand, if you know, you know...what?

Never heard of this woman before and don't particularly want to scroll through what I imagine are pages of vitriol on tattle life. What is it she is supposed to have been dishonest about?

What do some people believe to be more accurate?

Yes. Why is so important what she knew prior to the relationship?

I think most people can remember how, where and when they met someone. Especially if at the time you met them they’re married to someone else. That would be quite a memory lapse.

I have no idea. No one does. Personal abuse and bizarre speculation isn’t the solution anyway. To appoint oneself as an arbiter of ‘honest and true’ is concerning to say the least, perhaps deranged.

Spring is coming, the nights are getting lighter. It’s a great time to make changes. To really think about what is good for you and what isn’t.

Focus on yourself and your life. That will likely be very difficult at first but it won’t be as painful and wasteful as Tattle Life will turn out to be.

Ok Liz!