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Is this normal after being cheated on?

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Constantlysad · 09/06/2020 22:34

My husband had an affair lasting 2 months and I found out 6 months ago. It took a hell of a lot for me to stay.. I initially left to stay with my parents but I came home eventually after a lot of persuasion. He has said and done literally everything he possibly could to make things right. He’s begged, pleaded, given passwords to his phone, couples counselling, constantly telling me he can’t live without me etc. I just do not seem to be able to forget what he’s done. I’m suffering with night terrors where I’m dreaming of him killing me/leaving me. This is almost every night and I’m waking up screaming and sobbing. I think about what he’s done upwards of 50 times a day. I’m totally done in. I must add that I do absolutely love him but I don’t know if I love what I thought we had and the person I thought he was. I hate the thought of not being together but I also hate the thought of living like this forever.

Am I ever going to get over this? Will more time help?

I am hoping there’s someone out there that has been through this, knows how I feel and could advise me on what I can do to help myself get over this? He says he can not be without me. I went to stay at my parents at the weekend as I was overwhelmed with sadness.. he messaged the whole time saying he misses me and can’t live without me.

Sorry this is so long.. can anyone relate? Advise? Or tell me how to just forget about what’s happened. It’s so draining.

Just to add quickly that we have no children together (I have two teenagers who don’t know what’s happened) and we are tied financially with a 5 year fixed mortgage.

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Thewookiemustgo · 12/06/2020 12:35

So sorry OP. I know first hand how utterly terrible the pain is. It attacks on many levels and causes great damage. Apologies for the essay, maybe it will help to know about somebody else’s decision making after a starring role in the munted shitshow from hell.

I have given my husband a second chance because we had a great marriage for many, many years (36) and he has been totally committed to putting things right again. To throw away what we had for the fantasy island crap he had with the OW would devastate our teenage children, me and him and be a waste of four lives. The OW cared nothing for hurting me and our kids, she had none so wouldn’t have a clue about what she could potentially cause, she just wanted my husband. The blame is all his, however, whether it takes two to tango or not. Her weakness in believing his tripe and letting him shag her in hotels every week shows how many issues she had and I feel sorry for her in a way. Would never forgive her but she allowed herself to be used for sex and believed all a man nearly 20 years her senior told her without question and that’s something she has to deal with about herself. I read a quote “Men use love to get sex and women use sex to get love” and whilst not always true, this was very true in their case. He would say anything to keep the shagfest coming and she desperately wanted him to love her so the dysfunctional crap fed off itself until exposed to daylight. I am in no way, however, underestimating or trying to understand their shitty behaviour. He was an absolute fucking idiot and has hurt me to the core of my being.

My ramblings are to try to show you that only you can know whether you can give him a second chance. I am only giving my husband a final chance because despite all you read here I’ve been with him for 36 years, and only one of them and even then in retrospect, was shit. Then he was an arse of galactic proportions.
Trust will take a long, long time to get back. The only reason it could carry on was because he had my total trust and I would have bet my house on him not having an affair. I still have no idea now, 13 months after discovery, why the penny finally dropped for me. I felt like a complete idiot for not seeing it before and trusting someone so blindly.

All relationships are different, I know many people on MN will think I’m a still a complete idiot for staying and I respect that opinion completely. Hopefully time will tell that the second and only chance he has won’t be wasted. Any other crap and he’s fucking toast. Only you can know whether your husband deserves his second chance or is worth it.

Only you know him well enough to know whether what he is showing is genuine contrition or emotional blackmail. My husband has shocked himself to the point of ruining his mental health and his career over what he did. He couldn’t even recognise himself. He still hates himself for what he did and wishes he’d never even met the woman he obsessed over for over a year. He can’t believe what a stupid, hateful twat he’s been.
No, they weren’t thinking about us when they were screwing their mistresses. They were living in their selfish, entitled little bubble where they could reinvent themselves and give themselves permission to do whatever they liked. She apparently
asked him once if she was “just his midlife crisis”. Yes, she was. And that is still NO excuse. I’ve had chances to prove “I still got it” but the difference between him and me is that I turned them down. I’m no saint but I live honestly and with integrity. He has a second chance because he’s no serial cheater, he loves me and has had the biggest kick up the arse life could hand him about how precious his life with me and our children actually is. He made a series of terrible, terrible choices and only when exposed to reality did the exciting become shameful and sordid.

One more dick led decision and he knows where the door is.

Trust your gut. If he’s worth it, then try. It’s murder, but there it is. If he isn’t or you can’t get past it, then go. Don’t make decisions if the pain is deciding for you. The bitch of it is that you’ll hurt whether you stay or go, so make sure whatever you decide is absolutely right for you. He abdicated his choices and forfeited the right to use how he feels to make you stay. Only you can know if he’s genuinely contrite. Best of luck and I sincerely hope that you make the right decision for you. Don’t let anyone judge you for staying or going. They’re not you, they don’t know what you know or how you feel. Even as a complete stranger my heart totally goes out to you. This stuff is the absolute pits.

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ravenmum · 12/06/2020 09:33

Am I ever going to get over this? Will more time help?
I didn't stay with my exh, and it took me years to get to a position where I no longer hate him for what he did. So time helped for me, but only in combination with not being with him.
If he had otherwise been a great guy, and it had just been the affair, I could even imagine getting back together with him now, as we got on fine in many ways. But only because we have been apart so long and I have been able to get my head together again.

Maybe if you broke up now, and were split up a year or two, you could reconsider it then? But I have to say that he sounds quite manipulative... Part of the reason I would not actually consider returning to my ex is that the distance, time, and comparison with other partners showed me what else I was missing out on apart from fidelity.

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Theoscargoesto · 12/06/2020 09:14

I don’t envy you. My h had the affair and he left, so I haven’t been in your shoes. My guess is that time helps one accommodate what’s happened, that your own therapy may help you decide what YOU want, and also help to give you the strength to do what’s right for you.

Just one thing, about some friends of our family. The DF had an affair many many years ago, the DM feared losing him/the life she had. They stayed together. She has never forgiven him, and they both live miserable lives too scared and now too old to change things. Please don’t do that. It’s such a waste of 2 lives. I didn’t have the choice when my H left and I have a happier, better life now than then. I’m not sure I would have been brave enough to choose it at the time, so give yourself time and space to make the best decision you can for you

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DisneyMillie · 12/06/2020 09:12

An year on for me and I’m still having ptsd episodes where I just want to die but it’s getting better. I’d recommend talking to a doctor and considering anti depressants - they’ve helped me and I was very anti the idea.

I’m not even worried he’ll do it again but I’m not sure how I’ll ever stop obsessing about her / what they did / the betrayal.

Sorry - that’s not helpful - but it’s the realistic truth I think.

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Sharpandshineyteeth · 12/06/2020 08:55

I can answer from the other side. When I was 20 with 2 DC, I cheated on my DH with his friend. Awful I know. I’m not going to try and justify it or give my reasons. But I did love DH, it just all became separated for me.

When he found out it was horrible, awful. I saw the raw pain I caused him and wanted to do anything to make it better. I gave him my phone, didn’t have one for a year and I also stopped going out. We went to counselling but he hated it so we stopped.

We stayed together for 7 more years after and he was definately affected. I think I broke his trust forever and it also carried on into his subsequent relationships.

It was me who ended the relationship, not solely due to the affair but I have to admit it was a relief not to have to live with the guilt anymore and to finally put it behind me.

I am writing this because other posters have said he doesn’t love you if he can cheat and I don’t think that’s correct for some people. I certainly loved my DH and I also never ever did it again to him.

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Constantlysad · 11/06/2020 21:02

I did think maybe I was showing some signs of PTSD but I’m not sure. I totally agree with everything everyone is saying.. there’s no way you can love someone if you do what he’s done. I do just need to pluck up the courage to take my children and leave. In 6 months it has gotten easier but it’s on my mind all the time and I can’t carry on like this. Thank you all for your replies.

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Seaside1234 · 11/06/2020 15:43

2.5 years later for me. I'm still not fixed. It doesn't help that he hasn't kept up the promises he made in marriage counselling. Finding out was the worst thing that has happened to me in my life, and my experience was that you do have a PTSD-like reaction. I've given myself over 2 years, and I still don't trust him - I also sometimes thought before lockdown that he might be at it again, so I've ended up snooping on his phone, which I hate myself for becoming that person. As a pp says, presumably he might have learnt to hide it better, so I still don't know. I think at the end of the day I'll never trust him again. Our relationship wasn't in a great place when it happened, but instead of reaching out to me he shagged someone else. You didn't do that, and you are not responsible for his behaviour. Huge, huge virtual hugs OP. It's a horrific thing to go through, whatever you choose.

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Seesaw9 · 11/06/2020 15:30

All men are lovely once caught. He wasn’t thinking about how he couldn’t live without you when he was shagging someone else was he? Funny how only being caught makes him realise.

If you feel like this move on. You don’t have kids with him and a mortgage together really isn’t a good reason to stay.

Love isn’t enough. He didn’t have love for you when conducting an affair.

It would probably still be going on had he not been caught.

To be honest I would have more respect for someone if they admitted that they did it because they were unhappy and they then moved out rather than all this wailing and crying.

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Chocolate123 · 11/06/2020 15:04

Regardless of how your marriage was it's not your fault he cheated. Of course he's lovely now because he knows he's been caught and knows what he can loose. What happens next time? If he didn't get caught it would probably be still going on. I personally would rather struggle financially and live a peaceful life instead of the way things are now. What would you tell a friend in this situation?

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Mum45678 · 11/06/2020 14:38

My ex moved back in briefly after he cheated, in the guise of working things out for the sake of our children. It didn't work because shock horror, he was still cheating. Then he left for good anyway. I was desperate to fix things but now I'm divorced I realised how much we are better off without him. The marriage I thought I had was gone the moment I found out about the cheating. It's no fun playing marriage police and constantly wondering what he is doing.

You don't have kids, so run and don't look back. 18 months on it is still really painful but for me, the hardest bit was always dealing with how much it has affected and still affects our kids. I also got the utter shit sandwich of having to deal with all that because he wasn't really around after that.

You did nothing wrong, it was never your fault he cheated. My ex tried to blame me for his behaviour and it utterly tore me apart at first. Chump Lady absolutely saved me from that BS.

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WoollyMammouth · 11/06/2020 12:38

You are allowed to change your mind, it’s ok.

Him texting you constantly is not ok. He can’t live without you, it’s all about him. Me me me. He isn’t giving you any time or space to consider anything, it’s very selfish. Tell him to stop contacting you.

You have every right to take as much time as you need to think things over. Any decision you make is yours only.

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Closetbeanmuncher · 11/06/2020 12:36

He says he can not be without me. I went to stay at my parents at the weekend as I was overwhelmed with sadness.. he messaged the whole time saying he misses me and can’t live without me

Wasn't thinking about that when he was sticking it in someone else though was he, and would have carried on doing so if you hadn't found out.

To bombard you with these messages is also incredibly selfish and emotionaly abusive imo. You are not responsible for the concequences of his actions.

There are loyal people out there, but sadly this manipulative prick isn't one of them. You only have one life, don't waste it being anxious and miserable.
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vixxo · 11/06/2020 11:36

Well to be honest OP, I don't think it will ever be the same again. It's really true what they say, once the trust is gone you just see them in a different light.

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Needhelp101 · 11/06/2020 11:25

I second the suggestion of reading Chumplady. That'll open your eyes.

Just leave, seriously. These kind of selfish men don't change.

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supercatlady · 11/06/2020 08:16

Could it be possible you have PTSD?
Maybe consider EMDR or similar, or you may find it doesn’t go away even if you do decide to leave.

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endchauvinism · 11/06/2020 01:03

I think it's better to drop him. Of course that's ultimately up to you. But two months of cheating is very different than having a one time thing--which is also bad.

I have a male co-worker who always seemed nice, mature and responsible. He revealed to me recently that he cheated on his wife of 25 years and when I asked if it was the first time, he said it wasn't.

He feels super guilty about, and probably felt guilty the other time(s?) he did it. But that guilt wasn't enough to stop them apparently.

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flamingochill · 10/06/2020 23:52

My ex left me but it was a year before I had days where I didn't think about his affair (it was 6 months long) It happened 8 years ago and I am occasionally reminded as we have kids so he crops up in conversation but it's not like the overwhelming sadness stage at the beginning where I physically and emotionally melted into goo.

If you can't hack it any more, I'd understand. It's much easier to move on without him than with him.

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copycopypaste · 10/06/2020 22:28

I was a mess for three years after I found out about his affair, yes, I stayed with my dh for 3 whole years. It was horrendous, I tried to work through it, it did get easier but I found myself still being obsessed with the ow. I didn't trust him, I'd snoop, I'd think about it daily, it was awful. I didn't want to fail, I wanted us to work.

The relief I felt when I left him was immense. I think I'd put so much into it, I'd made myself miserable and lost 'me' leaving him was a god send and the best thing I ever did.

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user1481840227 · 10/06/2020 17:00

It would be over for me.
I think at the very least you need some space from him and for him to move out.

If he really and truly genuinely loved you IN THE RIGHT WAY then he wouldn't have done this, but he would also HATE that you were still feeling like this and wouldn't be so selfish to try to make you stay for him and would want you to figure out what you want.

Ignore all the constant messaging saying he can't live without you and so on, that's not loving you in the right way, that's not showing basic respect and care for your wellbeing. It's selfish.

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Yeahnahmum · 10/06/2020 13:24

Let the penny drop op. If you hadn't found out, you would still be in the dark now.

It wasn't an oops , 1 time kinda thing. It was 2 full months of him cheating on you and everything you guys ever stood for.

All gone now

So stop torturing yourself and let him go. Let yourself fall to pieces and set yourself back together.

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minmooch · 10/06/2020 06:42

If there is any chance to save this marriage then your dh needs to move out. He needs to give you time and space to breath without all this emotional pressure from him. He needs to earn your trust and respect gently. If he is serious about saving your marriage then he should be willing to give you some space. It is his actions that have got you to this place.

Personally I'd not forgive the cheating and it would be over for me. However if I tried to stay I think all this I can't live without you business would soon piss me off as much as his cheating.

Ask him to move out. Give yourself time and space to recover. Without his constant emotional pressure you will soon see if you can get past this.

But you do not have to forgive him. It is your choice. He is trying to bully you into forgiving him.

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madcatladyforever · 10/06/2020 06:17

I used to get bad dreams and night terrors when I was married to my first husband. I had forgotten all about until I read your post and it brought it all back from 30 years ago. My first husband was deeply abusive. It was my subconscious telling me to get the he'll out of there. I did get out of there and the dreams stopted.
Get the he'll out of there. Listen to what your subconscious is telling you. It knows what you don't see.
I guarantee if you leave your life will be better. There is something very wrong here.

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Shoxfordian · 10/06/2020 06:09

Its ok if you can't forgive him, he broke your trust
Don't get back with him just because he's apologised

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Monty27 · 10/06/2020 05:59

My exdh did that. I was straight to the courts for a divorce. DC's were 2 and 4.
We're all different.
Take your time. It's horrendous.

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Xandrats · 10/06/2020 05:53

Am I ever going to get over this? Will more time help?

No and no sorry.
You can think about it less over time but it will always have a way of coming between you. You just have to get used to the new normal of it being a "thing" it won't ever be gone.

So stay and accept it will always be there or move on. Up to you. I'd give anything to have had that advice 20 years ago.....

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