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Longingtobehappy · 15/02/2016 02:42

I've been up for hours my heads aching my eyebrows are hurting I'm so stressed I've been crying for ages. My poor sweet innocent dd is here asleep and I want to do what's right by her. I stayed with her dad and continued to forgive him for mistreating me because I thought he was ill now I believe I was being abused.

Last night ex and his mum told me it was my fault, his mum said I was controlling, and I should have been helping him get better not having a go at him all the time.

I've worked so hard at helping my ex beat depression, I went to every visit with mh team to support him, visited him in hospital when he went in for a few days a couple of years ago, took on the role of carer, he constantly told me he wanted to kill himself and I have so many flashbacks wrestling pills off him, taking bleach off him, hiding his medication so he didn't overdose, taking knives off him. He was psychotic at that time too and it was terrifying going through that with him, calming him down when he was trying to drown out the noise of the people he could here, I'd take him out for tea and he would tell me they were sat at the next table watching. Our relationship became so consumed in the illness that I lost myself. It really took its toll on my mental health and I reached out to his best friend, who came over and accused me of causing his mental illness. I was devastated, and felt helpless.

During this period he swore at me, shouted at me, and hurt me although unintentionally during wrestling matches to take the pills off him so he couldn't overdose, or clinging on to him begging him not to leave after he threatened to throw himself in the river. I would sit and cry after using all the energy o had to stop him hurting himself. One time my big toe was injured bruised bled and the nail fell off completely. I remember ringing the ambulance to help him when he locked himself in the bathroom with the pills, they sent the police who took us to hospital. When we got there ex convinced me he had calmed down and didn't need to be seen by mental health team anymore, so we walked home. My toe was so sore I was hobbling but I knew what it looked like and I didn't want people to think he had hurt me intentionally so I said nothing.

A few months later I had a seizure that went on for an hour and nearly killed me. I was admitted to hospital for a week and my ex stayed with me everyday and night. I was so glad of his support and really felt like we had reconnected again.

We moved to a new place and saw it as a fresh start, but the swearing at me and shouting continued, he would go in to rages during a argument and smash things up, he threw my lamp my dad bought me but replaced it after, he threw my picture frame and it held a picture of my dog who had died it fell to peices. One Christmas he smashed up the tree, picking it up and bending it in half throwing decorations everywhere. He would shout so loud during arguments that a neighbor came up asking if I was ok, I was cowering on the floor scared of his temper, ex told him everything was ok and he left after telling me if I need anything he's downstairs. Ex then went to bed and said his apologies and it was pushed to the back of my mind again.

A year on he seemed better, we had been getting on well and it felt like we were back to how we used to be. He proposed and I said yes and shortly after we conceived our dd. We were over the moon, he came to nearly all the scans with me but the yelling continued, I never felt it was abusive just that he couldn't control his temper, but I remember sitting in the room where all the babies things were, I felt comforted by her belongings and would hold them and cry. He would come in and out inbetween raising his voice and apologising but I didn't want to hear his apologies I just wanted to be alone.

Further in to the pregnancy we moved again to have more space for the baby, we got a lovely house and it was my favourite time in my life leading up to dds birth. Ex was fantastic, he took two weeks off for us and was a doting dad, I struggled to bond until about a month so had my own issues to get through too. Around then we started fighting again, it would escalate so quickly and I couldn't calm him down. I would tell him don't raise your voice to stop him from blowing up but it still happened, he would then throw things around. Whilst shouting and storming around.

One time I called the police because he pushed me on to the bed lent over me and screamed in my face, he blocked me from getting out of the room and to my dd, we both pulled at the door and it ended up coming off the hinges. I ran to dd and picked her up, he said give me my fucking baby, I said he needed to calm down. He then packed his stuff and left. I walked around the house a bit in disbelief and that was the first time I thought he did mean that, that wasn't his illness, I went back in to the room and saw a knife on the side. Freaked out I phoned the police and they arrested him later releasing him as I didn't want to press charges and said I was concerned for his safety. I convinced myself he must be ill he wouldn't just do that to me no matter what annoyed him.

After that social services got involved due to police referral and spoke to us both, we both understood the effect that had on dd, that it's not acceptable behaviour and that he would begin anger management to solve the problem.

He left me twice again since that time telling me we were better off without him, tell dd he loved her, how he doesn't want to live anymore, and again I went to his defence concerned for his mental health and we reconciled. Neighbours have got involved posting notes when he's not there offering help soneone to talk to, so it must be load when he does lose his temper.

The last time was three weeks ago when I left and haven't been back, we got in to another argument he then wouldn't leave me alone, he kept following me wherever I went, telling me I had to talk to him even though I just wanted to be left alone. He ended up screaming at me telling me to push him down the stairs, I ran off crying and he followed me again I said I was going to ring the police and he took my phone off me saying no you're not, threw it on the floor and stood on it. I pleaded with him to stop asking what was he doing, he went downstairs with it and I went in to the bathroom. When I turned round he was there, he had a knife in his hand, he closed the door and shut me in with him, sitting infront of the door. He told me to watch him kill himself, he yelled at me to sit down next to him and kept pointing with the knife hysterically. I was crying in the corner begging him not to do it. He held it against his throat and kept telling me I was going to watch him die and then crying. He threw the knife a few times as if to stop and then decided not to. I kept begging him to stop and let me out which he eventually did. I remember fearing he would turn the knife on me, I thought he might throw it at me as I went downstairs to get dd. I've never been so scared in my life but I stopped to make sure he had rang his mental health team and someone was on the way. I told him we loved him and not to kill himself before I left.

Since then he realised I wasn't coming home unless he recognised he needed help and we were able to feel safe. Since then him and his mum have told me I shouldn't wind him up, I should stop badgering him, I should have took myself out on a walk or gone in to a different to calm down. I tried to get away from him, I tried to calm him down before it escalated and I'm traumatised by the experience, he still continues to tell me he's going to kill himself texting me how many tablets he'd counted what lethal cocktail he could make with his medication despite knowing how distressing it is for me hearing him threaten divide all the time, I feel as though I'm being blamed for it, like I incited the argument and wanted it to turn out like that.

Please don't tell me I shouldn't have ha da baby with this man, I didnt think he would become depressed again or that I would end up in that situation. I thought he was 'losing control' because he was ill but I've been looking online and it doesn't sound like thats the answer, it sounds like he was depressed but also abusive. I'm so confused and my head is all over the place. I never wanted to make him ill. I loved him I still do, I still long for the normal days a normal life a happy family and home for dd like planned. Now I have him asking is it too late for us and his mum threatening to take me to court for him to get access to see dd, when I dont think he's safe to Sad

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Longingtobehappy · 19/02/2016 17:51

I just want to thank everyone for there positive comments and support. I am going to start my journey of recovery, I want to show my dd that we deserve better. We deserve to live in a home without violence without aggression, without fear. I am going to go to counselling and let it all out there, all the suffering that I've covered up to protect him. I don't want to say I'm used to it anymore. He's tried his best to destroy me but I will do this

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Longingtobehappy · 19/02/2016 08:13

I've just read "How a seemingly healthy relationship turns abusiv" it didn't really help because he wasn't controlling he didn't isolate me, didn't pressure me to have sex, wasn't jealous, didn't call me all the time, or tell me how to dress or who I could talk to, where I can go. It's confusing because I know all about different types of abuse but because his behaviour was against himself it doesn't seem to make sense

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Resilience16 · 19/02/2016 07:21

Hi Longing, I am so sorry you are in this shit situation. I know it is very hard to realise that the person you love, the person you hoped you would have a future with is abusive and you need to get away.
Please don't blame yourself, it is not your fault. You have tried your hardest to make things work, but your partners mental health and abusive behaviour are out of your control. You cannot change him. To get an understanding of how an abusive relationship evolves please read "How a seemingly healthy relationship turns abusive" posted on the She knows website. It opened my eyes to my abusive relationship and how the abuser will manipulate you and grind you down.
You are doing the right thing getting out of this horrible relationship and reporting him to the police. You and your daughter deserve much much better. It will be hard, but you will get through it x

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nagsandovalballs · 19/02/2016 06:50

He does,not seem to be trying very hard. He sounds like a grade A abusive twat. I suspect he began to realise that there was something powerful and exhilarating in losing his shit - a great surge of adrenalin and endorphins, that makes him feel good about abiding you.

Let him kill himself. He is an abusive, abusive man - one of the worst I've heard of in my four years on this board. How dare he treat you, mother of his child, like this?

Your dd doesn't need a dad - especially not one who has nearly killed her mother. She needs a mum. He won't change or get better as he believes it is your fault. He might make noises to reel you back in and seduce you with promises, but it won't last. Keep this damaged, damaging and violent bastard away from your precious little child before he fucks her up emotionally, mentally and possibly (God forbid) physically. The very fact that neighbours have been leaving you notes, checking on you and ringing police should speak volumes.

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JeremyZackHunt · 19/02/2016 00:52

Has anyone discussed PTSD with you? You've been through a prolonged traumatic experience and it is possible you have that rather than straightforward depression.
I don't buy his excuses (as a chronic depressive myself) and I think he had an episode which he has used to blackmail you into doing what he wants.
Leaving and involving SS and Police is the right thing to do. You need to talk to them about being stuck in the bathroom with him and knives. It is better to be the happy child of one loving, calm parent than two warring parents or parents with an abusive dynamic.
This relationship has reduced you to a shadow in 3 years as an adult. What could he do to your baby's mental health?
Don't feel guilty.
Flowers

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movpov · 19/02/2016 00:19

OP it sounds as though you have gone through a horrendous time with him. Depression however, is not an excuse for his behaviour and the fact he seems to be like this with only you suggests to me he is hiding behind his illness. The constant suicide threats are a form of manipulation - do you really think if he was hell bent on taking his own life he would not have found a way? As other posters have said, you are not responsible for his problems but you do have a responsibility to yourself and your daughter to keep him away from you both as he is a danger to you right now. It's clear you still love him and have tried your best to help but you can't fix him and it's also clear what a toll all this is taking on you; sadly I think you have to face the fact you will in the long run both be better off without him, easy for me to say I know as you obviously don't want to give up on him which says a lot about you and your loyalty to him; many folk would have walked away long before now. As for his mum threatening court action re access - no judge is going to grant him access with his history . I hope you can work things out and get some peace to enjoy your daughter. Look after yourself and good luck

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cestlavielife · 18/02/2016 23:50

Yes your dd needs protecting from her dad and you need support in getting protection and help .
You can create a happy little family without his dramas.
If and when he ever becomes stable you can review but much better you focus on you and dd without his rollwrcoastwr.

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Longingtobehappy · 18/02/2016 22:19

Dds now a child in need Sad they need to meet with all professionals involved to decide if she needs to be on a child protection plan. I'm so angry upset anxious just complete disbelief at what's happened to my family it feels like a nightmare sigh

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Longingtobehappy · 18/02/2016 17:49

I don't know they haven't been to see me yet. I've told the social worker she said he's playing mind games

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petalsandstars · 18/02/2016 17:02

They will see through him. Make sure you speak to a domestic violence specialist officer.

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BloodyPlantagenets · 18/02/2016 14:03

The police will have heard it all before. What is he saying you've done?

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Longingtobehappy · 18/02/2016 13:55

My ex has reported me to the police !! What is he playing at Sad I've done nothing but protect dd and he's making allegations about me just because I reported him for what he did. I'm in so much pain this is hell

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Longingtobehappy · 17/02/2016 22:38

Afro thank you for sharing your story, what happened to you is awful and your poor ds. I hope I can create a happy home for dd, I don't think many women expect to become a single mum, but I just don't know how I'm going to manage. I'm on such low income being a student. I'm skipping so far ahead in my head that I can't imagine what life will be like, where we will live, what nursery dd will go to when my maternity leave ends, there's so much uncertainty and I dread the questions about daddy and where is he Sad

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AfroPuffs · 17/02/2016 21:42

Sorry for typos...damn phone

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AfroPuffs · 17/02/2016 21:42

Longing, I went through something very similar to you with my ds and his dad. He was abusive (physical, emotional, financial) and this got worse when ds was born. Every abusive event was excuses by him, family or his friends as being down to depression and i was constantly gaslighted and guilt-tripped into ignoring it and "being supportive". Two weeks before i had to return to work from mat leave he got even worse as he didnt like me leaving the house or speaking to people. He was clearly worries about me going back to work and i got a good kicking for something trivial.

I asked him to leave (my house, i was paying all the bills!) and he attacked me with knives, snatched the baby. I managed to get my ds out of there and after a few days reported it to the police. I didnt press charges as such but wanted it logged somewhere. He was thrown out and texting 50 times a day re killing himself etc etc.

I blocked his number, changed mine and asked for any further correspondence via letter only.

He attended supervised visits in a contact centre for 5mths. Never on time even though it was 1hr a fortnight. Often didnt turn up. He drove...i had to travel 90mins with a baby on 2 trains and a bus to the place, yet i was always there on time. My ds cried when he didnt turn up.

5mths later he decided he couldnt be arsed. Ds hasnt seen him for 3.5yrs now, never gets a bday card or xmas pressie.

It was HARD and i spent 2yrs grieving and had CBT and victim support counselling. BUT life is so much better! No walking on egg shells, i know ds is SAFE and well cared for, I dont have a bully in my home anymore and i am hopeful about what life will bring now.

Sorry for long post but the crux of it is - it will be hard for a while but moving on, staying strong and you are doing your best for you AND your child. Stick to your guns and leave this toxic bloke behind.

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Longingtobehappy · 17/02/2016 21:19

Since I phoned the police I've fallen to pieces Sad

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3WiseWomen · 17/02/2016 21:08

And it's normal if it takes time for you to get your head around the fact he has been abusive.
It takes everyone time to accept that someone they trusted and loved has acted like this.

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3WiseWomen · 17/02/2016 21:06

Don't be disappointed in yourself. You are doing VERY well and no one is expecting you to take such big decisions like moving close to your dsis immediately.

You can take a bit of time to sort things out in your head but it looks like moving back to 'your' house isn't a good idea. Too many memories.

Also think if you will be able to get the same support you have here if you move to your dsis (the counselling, GP, etc...).

But Serioulsy, you are doing great, even if it doesn't feel like it :)

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Iamdobby63 · 17/02/2016 20:40

Longing, you can't change your past but you can determine your future. You did your best in your relationship, put up and tried to work through far more than a lot of people would have.

You are right not to leave your course as that's important for your future.

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Longingtobehappy · 17/02/2016 20:20

I'm seeing the counsellor weekly but I don't know if it will be enough I know how stupid that sounds but I spent so long caring for this man regardless of what it looks like it came as a complete shock to me to hear I was being abused. I feel like curling up in to a ball and staying there. I'm finding it so hard to put on my happy face for dd

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Longingtobehappy · 17/02/2016 20:18

I've come to my parents house again. I was getting in to a state, I wish I could go to my sisters now but it would mean giving up everything including a university course I'm on that won't allow transfers. My baby deserves better than this I'm so disappointed in myself and her dad Sad

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Iamdobby63 · 17/02/2016 19:19

Longing, it's only natural to feel the way you do and yes you must take care of yourself and see your GP, are you still seeing the counsellor? If not it would be good for you to have their support throughout this process.

If you receive any suicide threats from him then phone the police, not to get him in trouble but to get him help.

I'm so sorry you are going through this, perhaps moving to your sisters would be a good idea, a different place, a bit of distance.... Even if it's only temporary.

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petalsandstars · 17/02/2016 19:11

Well done by the way. You've done the right thing - he caused his own actions and therefore the consequences are on him Flowers

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petalsandstars · 17/02/2016 19:10

Can you block his number or delete it just for a while? Is there anyone family /friends who could come over tonight?

Failing that call women's aid for support

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Longingtobehappy · 17/02/2016 18:59

No he mustn't have been in. I'm going to see the gp I'm not okay. I'm getting really depressed. I've made mistakes phoning and texting ex asking why he did this to me, why did he ruin our family, I rang him crying saying I had to ring the police I felt guilty straight away. I don't know what the hell ok doing. I'm a mess I can't come to terms with it at all, I'm trying to make the right steps but I'm a wrexk

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