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I went NC with friend but she has been in touch. What to do?

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cardboardtree · 24/10/2015 01:11

Name changed.

Sorry this is long but I don't want to drip feed.

I had one local friend we had been friends for more than 20 years.
We started out in similar circumstances but our lives have taken different directions, we met at work. Our choice of career was very down to Earth. She married a man who works abroad while she has stayed at home and doesn't work, she has luxurious life but the lack of interaction and challenge in her life has meant she has lost touch with 'real' people and 'real' life. She has become anxious about some every day things, verging on phobic for example; she won't fly anymore, despite having lived abroad for much of her youth so she doesn't visit her DH while he works away even though he would love her to. Flying is a common fear but she has many others too.

5 years ago she had a breakdown, I spent a lot of time with her, going with her to appointments, taking her shopping when she could manage it, taking time off work to help her to make the small steps towards recovery.

She did recover and she is ok now, albeit she still has a raft of fears.

My ExH and I split 3 years ago, at the time I realised I had been living my life as one of those people who gives and give of themselves to the point of exhaustion.
When I stopped running around for everyone else I lost some friends but at the time, post marriage breakdown, I had to concentrate on me and my DCs. I knew not to ask for support from others as my relationships had been built on me doing the giving.

My friend and I remained friends throughout.

2 months ago I was driving along a main road when a car pulled out in front of me from a side road. I was taken to hospital by ambulance with bruising and a broken bone not serious but unpleasant.

The next day I needed a lift home from hospital, so I asked this friend and she said 'no' because it was a beautiful day so she was going to sit in the garden and read.

Of course, she can do what she likes with her time but I have asked very little of her over the years.
I did not give my support to her on a quid pro quo basis but I was in hospital, in pain and didn't have anyone else to ask, I would have given a stranger a lift in those circumstances, let alone a friend.

Afterwards I was upset and decided that should be the end of the friendship, I haven't contacted her since.

Last week her husband sent me a text message, I'm guess he is back in the country on leave saying they 'miss me'.

Should I stick to my guns and stay NC if I can't rely on her when I'm desperate?
Or stay friends with her?

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OnceAMeerNotAlwaysAMeer · 26/10/2015 15:37

who cares if she gets a message back? All she needs to do is say "I've explained, I don't see her the same way, I wish you luck but don't wish to discuss this more"

I think if you've known her 20 years and her husband texts you it's reasonable to give a (brief) explanation. Then to draw a line under it.

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springydaffs · 26/10/2015 15:23

You'd be telling the husband - who is the one who texted you. What she makes of it is irrelevant. She can go and lounge on her sunbed.

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bigrowncoat · 26/10/2015 00:18

The trouble with any reply IMO is that this kind of vaguely narcissistic person had a MASSIVE victim complex and everyone around her has to buy into this bizarre fantasy.

And you can't reveal the truth about them, because then the whole charade falls apart and it's a case of "shoot the messenger".

So I suspect even if one sent a clear "this is what happened" message, you'd get one back questioning your version of reality, implying you were some jealous, disloyal, bitch and "X has this or that issue not enough time to sit and chill in the sunshine with her book how dare you I'm outraged how could you be so hurtful"

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springydaffs · 25/10/2015 19:48

I think giving a carefully- worded account of what happened and why you don't want anything more to do with this dreadful dreadful woman contact ever again gives you the chance to say your piece and draw a line under it. When a great injustice has happened to me I need to say my piece, part of moving on, putting it behind me: there, that's what happened, this is the end.

Is her husband her dad that she gets him to negotiate on her behalf? She a grown woman ffs. She can't even be bothered to do her own relationships. Oh she sounds insufferable, a dead weight.

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howtorebuild · 25/10/2015 19:09

Don't be her friend again, you deserve better. I agree spend the time and money you would on them, on you instead.

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goddessofsmallthings · 25/10/2015 18:29

Pompous? Moi, Mintyy? Which response would that be?

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NumbBlaseCold · 25/10/2015 18:18

I would stay NC with her.

I would text him back and state the truth of it.

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Mintyy · 25/10/2015 16:49

Crumbs, bet you wish you'd got your facts straight before typing out that incredibly pompous reply goddessofsmallthings

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Ohfourfoxache · 25/10/2015 15:38

cardboard I've only read your posts because I can't be bothered reading apologist "but what if she was having a crisis/broke a nail/had her head hanging off" posts. The woman is a user - end of. Frankly it doesn't matter what she was going through - surely she could have picked up her phone and sent a text ffs.

I've had multiple breakdowns and have chronic depression. I'll be on ADs for the rest of my life. But just because I have to live like this does not mean that I can't/don't have a bit of compassion for others. I'd do anything for anyone (regardless of what I'm going through - even when a breakdown coincided with a fractured spine). Depression/being mentally unwell etc is NO EXCUSE for behaving like a cunt.

As for self worth - cardboard if I had the secret to that, love, I'd be rich beyond my wildest dreams. I've got no solution, I've not found any "how to" books. I wish I could give you the answer. All I can suggest is taking one day at a time and opening your eyes to what you do for others and what they do for you.

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expatinscotland · 25/10/2015 15:31

Don't stay friends with her. I would text her husband back with one of those suggested responses and then tell them you want no more contact and block them.

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dreamiesrcatgak · 25/10/2015 15:04

Absolutely do not stay friends with her. I've just ended a16 year friendship myself after realizing that I have constantly been the giver(to the friend and his family) without getting much back. A hospital scenario, along with total dissinterest at the loss of a close family member were the straws that broke the camels back in this case too. I made it quite clear why I was going nc though. I do feel sad, but less so than constantly being let down and hurt by ex friends callous behaviour.

I would send one of the above texts, from your description of your friend, it's unlikely a dialogue will be entered into, as sadly she doesn't seem to care enough to argue for you.

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DoreenLethal · 25/10/2015 14:32

Addressing any such message to the ex-friend's dh is passive-aggressive behaviour

It was her husband that contacted the OP. Addressing a response to anyone else would be passive aggressive. Addressing a response to the person that contacted the OP is absolutely the right thing to do.

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Lweji · 25/10/2015 14:28

And I never once again contacted you because... I'm a user and couldn't be bothered

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lorelei9 · 25/10/2015 14:19

Doreen "No it doesn't. Stating the facts with a cheery 'and that is why I do not wish to be friends any more' ending is plainly 'the end of the conversation'"

not at all. the OP's contact might then start with the "actually but this happened and I couldn't tell you because xyz...." you never know!

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goddessofsmallthings · 25/10/2015 13:38

Addressing any such message to the ex-friend's dh is passive-aggressive behaviour.

I'd consider it to be entirely beneath my dignity to involve a dh in what is essentially a matter between myself and his dw, and I suspect the OP may feel the same.

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DoreenLethal · 25/10/2015 13:05

But sending any reply at all opens up a dialogue which is unwanted.

No it doesn't. Stating the facts with a cheery 'and that is why I do not wish to be friends any more' ending is plainly 'the end of the conversation'.

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goddessofsmallthings · 25/10/2015 12:59

What does it matter if the ex-friend's husband never knows the truth about why the OP isn't in evidence in his dw's life any longer?

If he's at all curious as to why the OP hasn't replied to his text he may call or turn up on her doorstep, but I doubt it as the lack of response has ensured that his dw has got the message and she's hardly likely to encourage him to have any conversation with the OP that she won't be able to control.

If the OP had responded, I suspect that her ex-friend would defer any face to face meeting until her dh has returned to the country where he works and where a woman who is not beset by various fears and phobias waits to greet him.

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roses2 · 25/10/2015 12:57

I'd send LuluJakey's text too. She is obviously completely oblivious as to why she no longer hears from you. So tell her why then go NC.

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MatildaTheCat · 25/10/2015 12:19

The problem with ignoring the husbands text is that he will never know the truth and whatever story she spins him about how badly horrid Cardboardtree has treated her, he will agree. In all likelihood you will have mutual friends and aquaintances who will also get to here about horrid cardbourdtree's behaviour.

I would send one of the excellent texts above, or even copy and paste the original messages with, 'Here is why I can no longer be friends with your wife.'

The only good thing about any of this is that the whole farce of a friendship is over and you aren't at her back and call any more.

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minimalist000001 · 25/10/2015 12:04

You could always just leave it. If she apologises and starts to support you, maybe it's worth reevaluating things

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bittapitta · 25/10/2015 11:48

But sending any reply at all opens up a dialogue which is unwanted. I'd still suggest staying NC. You don't owe her or him a response. He will ask her the circumstances surrounding you going NC and surely she will mention you were in hospital? He will work it out.

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Blu · 25/10/2015 10:13

It is possible to send a reply with an explanation - LuluJakey's is good - without it opening a conversation.

It is an explanation and a clear signal of your active ending of the relationship - not the start of a negotiation.

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HermioneWeasley · 25/10/2015 09:49

Just ignore. It's been months since you've had any contact. You've probably changed your number and haven't even got the text!

Nothing good will come from replying.

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ThumbWitchesAbroad · 25/10/2015 09:48

Yup.

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QuintShhhhhh · 25/10/2015 09:40

Lulujakey is spot on

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