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Partner's Grown-Up Children Come First

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Blueskybluesky · 04/07/2015 13:49

Have been with a lovely guy for two years (he's early 50s, I'm late 40s - both never married before), talking about marriage and getting a house together. He has two children in their 20s (I have no children and am happy with that) and he still has the family home - daughter has returned, son has moved out. I live in a flat in the same city. A number of situations are clearly telling me I am third in the pecking order. Are there any other women who are experiencing this? I have no children, but changed my whole life and moved city to be closer to my partner and put him first in my life. I understand the unique bond of a parent and child, though at the same time would like to feel that I might come first at some point. Any advice out there? Do I sit it out until we get our own place and hope it might change, or run for the hills now . . . Thanks for your help!

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LemonyTicket · 04/10/2023 18:05

Husband and I met when we had almost adult children.

For both of us, our kids come first. No one begrudges money being given to them, bedrooms being maintained for them and plans for holidays or special occasions being focused on them.

The kids are grown up but still get help when they need it and our house if full of pictures of them.

It's great. Stop trying to compete with his daughter. Adult or not, they will always be his kiss.

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Lili132 · 04/10/2023 17:54

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ItsADoggieDogWorld · 04/10/2023 14:12

ZOMBIE THREAD FROM 2015

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Stefy4747 · 04/10/2023 08:00

I’m almost in the same situation, his daughter (my boyfriends) recently moved in with him after graduating college (she is 22) she has a boyfriend and sometimes he stays with her a few days on the week, but what bothers me is our lives now revolve around his daughter (what are we having for dinner, where are we going out, if I can stay over) he can’t make a decision about what we are having for dinner until she confirms if she likes that’s or not, (I find that so annoying) and the other day he was going away for a trip and she was aldo going somewhere and I was supposed to house sit well she changed her mind and told him she wanted to be by herself. And he just told me not to go cuz he didn’t want to upset her. I feel like I don’t matter. I’m the third wheel there.

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Ladybug61 · 14/11/2022 09:56

Wondering if im overeacting been with my partner 6 years finally after making excuses is now starting divorce proceedings.

This lateness has resulted the date set in July might be compromised if there are any issues. Reluctantly set new date September 1st to ensure divorce will be finalised.

He has no problem with that date but cant go on Honeymoon because its his daughters birthday! (not a special one) she will be 24.

He told me I chose that date on purpose! His kids refuse to have anything to do with me. I was Totally unaware of the date.

Should I be having second thoughts 🤔

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DatingDinosaur · 06/05/2022 20:31

This is a topic from 2015.

Is there a reason why you resurrected it PenelopePitstop69?

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AgentJohnson · 06/05/2022 11:10

Framing things as right or wrong isn’t helpful. It sounds like you resent his DD, do not approve of the support given to her by her parents and feel that now that you are on the scene the family dynamic should change.

You are allowed to feel the way you feel, I just don’t think your expectations are compatible with a family dynamic that you only you have a issue with.

Framing the current dynamic as a competition does not reflect well on you and your insinuations over the number of foto’s on display is just plain weird.

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PenelopePitstop69 · 06/05/2022 10:27

Yes slithy. Lots of people said it

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lily3665 · 26/09/2021 00:56

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disappear · 20/09/2021 19:03

@Midwestgirl might be best to start a thread of your own. That way, you will get advice on your situation.

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Hwlt333 · 20/09/2021 18:22

My partner has 2 daughters in there 20s and he still runs round after them. Playing taxi and doing house hold chores, giving them money in one case giving one of them 4,000 to pay off a car debt due to her relationship breakdown, when it was both her and boyfriends car. I’m slowly getting to the end of my tether with his generosity. They are grown adults and both working.

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jimmyjammy001 · 26/07/2021 00:19

You don't sound like you have much life experience when it comes to relationships unfortunately, rule number one is other peoples children will allways be their first priority in the relationship and you second, I'd walk away now if you don't like it, they might go through a ruff patch at some point and you will have new house lodgers whether you like it or not, or giving them joint money if they are struggling, your get used to it even if you don't like it

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Thingsdogetbetter · 25/07/2021 19:12

Z o m b I e

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layladomino · 25/07/2021 19:07

As a straightforward answer to your concern ('I'm third in the pecking order'), I think it's crazy to expect that after 2 years you are going to be more important to someone than their own children.

His children will always be above you in the pecking order I would expect. Love for our children is unconditional and never-ending.

Of course that isn't the same as always putting them first, and as they grow children have to understand that other people's needs are just as important, and that their parents have a life beyond them.

So it's reasonable that your bf should sometimes put you first. And sometimes put his DD and DS first. Only you know if you can deal with that. If you want to be nr 1 in the pecking order, then you need to find someone who doesn't have children or someone who doesn't care about their children (but they will be a crappy person to date as well).

I am a parent of, and a step mum of, adult DC, and I can confirm that your love for your children doesn't somehow lessen when they become adults. In fact they often need you more than ever as they start to navigate adulthood and its responsibilities and problems. It's as important as ever that they know that their parent/s will be there for them no matter what.

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m00rfarm · 24/07/2021 22:57

Jesus - I only realised halfway through it was 6 years old. There should be a warning at the top of the page for threads that have been resurrected like this! Now I need to know the outcome of the OP.

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willowmelangell · 24/07/2021 21:51

6 year old thread. hope it all worked out.

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Midwestgirl · 21/07/2021 15:59

Hello, I am going through a similar situation. I have two grown Sons from a previous marriage and he has two Daughters, all of them grown. My Sons are on their own and do not interfere with our relationship. His two Daughters are on their own as well. The youngest Daughter has always been a sweetheart to me and very excepting if me. The older Daughter treats me with disrespect. At times she will be pleasant to me but doesn't feel sincere or heartfelt to me. She has been needy at times of her Dad's affections, wanting to have time alone with him without me around. We have been living together 5 years now and nothing has changed. He told me twice now that his Daughters will always be first before me, and that hurts me. I also left a nice home, uprooted and moved to another state to be with him. We had known eachother for many years before our relationship began, but now I feel like I don't know him at all. She once told her Dad that I am not her Mother and she doesn't want advice from me. I once gave her some friendly advice when she was getting a new, first time puppy. A breed that I once had and knew could be a handful. My advice upset her and she complained to her Mom and Dad that I had no right to give her advice. Her Mother actually told her she felt I meant no harm and was just trying to help. Her Dad only told me to not give her advice anymore. He pretty much told me not to say anything to her anymore. He seems to tiptoe around her feelings and never takes my feelings into account. He also has many photos of her around our house. She gives him framed photos of the two of them every, Christmas, Birthday and Fathers Day. When we got engaged 3 years ago, and shortly after our engagement her Mom was in town visiting and this Dauggter asked to have dinner with her parents. She asked that I not come. The dinner plans never happened for one, because he had no interest in having dinner with his now ex wife, and I expressed my feelings about it. This Daughter is 27 years old but I feel like I'm dealing with a child. She has her Dad wrapped around her finger. I most definitely feel like a 5th wheel when it concerns her. As I mentioned we have been engaged 3 years now but have not set a date. His Mother has asked several times when we are getting married but we never seem to have that answer for her. I have thought many times about leaving because I feel our situation is not healthy. He refuses to talk with his Daughter about her feelings towards me. His younger Daughter once said after a situation with his oldest Daughter "I love my Dad dearly, but he doesn't have your back!" She said she would never be with someone who doesn't have her back. I feel I should leave but at 59 years old, I have no place to go. At my age I certainly don't want to impose on a sibling or my Sons who have full busy lives. My oldest is married with kids and my youngest Son is living on his own and still putting himself through college. Rent today is so expensive. But I know I need to figure something out because after 5 years in this relationship I am sad to say i don't think the wedding date will ever get set. I am emotionally exhausted. I'm curious to know what is going on today with you Blueskybluesky. You first wrote in 2015 and it is now 2021. I think it was smart of you to have your own place. I should've done the same because I now feel dependent on this man whom I love but obviously does not put me first nor at the same level of importance to his kids. Thank you all for listening.

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Persians42006 · 19/08/2020 02:37

Truth

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Persians42006 · 19/08/2020 02:36

Run. You will never be first in his life because his grown children and grand children will always come first with him including declining date night with you because the grandchild has a soccer game and he never makes it up to you and that u can’t go eat at an adults only restaurant because the grandkids won’t eat the food there ! It always revolves around them. I felt like a fifth wheel up there and begun to resent it because it was him who wanted me to leave my job in Columbia and move up to Nashville! This why childless females should never date divorced men with children !

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HazelBite · 30/08/2018 10:59

OP, I doubt if your partners daughter wants to live with her dad as it appears she has left several times,
She doesn't sound very resilient emotionally really and this could be down to many factors.
I have 4 adult sons, 2 have left home and two who still reside with me and DH.
The older two in the past have yo-yo'd back at various times in emergency situations but they were shortish stays and I could tell that wanted to go so they could retain their independance.
If she is being financiallly "propped up" by her patents perhaps it would be better for her parents to pay her rent somewhere (away from Dad)

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Mangoo · 30/08/2018 07:46

Hi OP.

Its really tricky I think. I was in a situation where I was the daughter (though not as dependant on my father as the daughter in your post I don't think!)

My mother left when I was about 15 (still in contact) and I stayed with my Dad in the family home. It was a horrible horrible time for us both and we were extremely close because of it.

He got a girlfriend about 2 years later who treated me awfully. I was made to feel like I had to ask permission to spend time with my Dad. She'd be angry if I was there having dinner with him and he hadn't told her I was going round (whilst she was at her home). Honestly it was bizarre, she treated me like I was some form of other woman.

I wasn't allowed to walk from the shower to my bedroom in my nighty 'because I was a woman and it's not right walking in front of a man like that'. He's my Dad!!! Bleugh.

The photos thing was also an issue. He didn't have them all over the house like your DP but he did have a collage in the living room of special moments i.e. my first baby photo, prom photos, 18th birthday etc... She told him it was 'like a shrine' to me and to take them down.

I could never mention my mum. Ever. It was like WW3 for my Dad if I did. And I'm not talking about me sitting and reminiscing about times as a family I'm talking about literally saying 'I went shopping with mum' when asked what I'd done that day.

In the end he finished things with her because of it. She made him feel like he had to choose between us and it tormented him so much.

Now I'm not saying you are anything like that but I would say to pick your battles. Your DP clearly loves his children and that isn't a bad thing. There will be things that get under your skin but please don't make your partner feel guilty for being close to his children.

There are obviously things in your OP which would annoy most people though i.e. constantly financially bailing them out. But honestly, it's his money. If that's what he wants to do then it's what he'll do I suppose. It's different if the finances are joint.

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Mommma · 30/08/2018 04:47

Hi Blue Sky just wondering what happened as I am in a similar situation myself

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Handywoman · 24/09/2015 19:26

timeou that's awful, what an awful thing to happen.

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timeou · 24/09/2015 19:22

I'm seeing this from the other end of the scale. My mother passed away late last year and father started seeing a new woman within weeks. She quickly tried to assert her status in my fathers life and caused trouble between my father and I as she didn't like how close we were. She told my father to stop speaking to me.

My father being the weak man he is kow towed to her tears and tantrums so when I stood up to the situation my father and I argued as he would not see my side of things and he told me that unless I accepted that she came first in his life then he wanted no more to do with me. I'm 42 years old with 2 teenage children and he's happy been happy to have no more to do with me since June. He's ignored my request to sort things out preferring to give my contact details to his fancy woman to contact me and demand I come down to sort things out. I declined as its him I want to sort things out with, not her, I don't want anything to do with someone who can bring so much trouble into the family.

It sounds like you and I are at complete opposite ends of the scale. I hope you manage to find some middle ground. I never wanted my dad to be lonely and I was happy he had company and companionship but I would never have thought he would do this. It's been devastating.

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Handywoman · 24/09/2015 19:03

Nor am I jealous of the dd before anyone insinuates that!

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