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Boyfriend broke up with me - but giving mixed messages

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hiphoplollipop30 · 24/11/2014 21:18

Hello,

If you're taking the time to read this, thank you.

I want to keep it quite brief as I could probably type all this out for hours :)

We're both 30, we were together for 5 years. He had a brain aneurysm 6 months into our relationship and suffered from bad depression after this, and his personality seemed more volatile, dramatic and mean at times.

To say our relationship was a struggle for me is putting it mildly. Constant mood changes, negativity, selfishness etc. But I always had the hope that our day would come.

Then I lost my job and had to move home (2 hour train ride away) and things settled a bit, because of the distance I imagine. He avoided committing to me though, didn't seem desperate to have me back in London or to move in with me etc.

You know how someone verbally attacks you, and everything they're saying is a description of themselves? That happened a lot. It was like there was a switch in his head that went off every few weeks without fail. Then would try and carry on like nothing had happened.

I wanted out this past September because he was being so mean and rubbish and tried to communicate this to him, he got angry etc. A week later he was adamant that we shouldn't give up on our relationship and will I come down to London as he has planned something for our 5 year anniversary.

Me being a big softie, I agreed. It was a great weekend.

Two weeks later he called me to say he was not happy, and his feelings aren't as strong for me anymore - he basically said everything I had said the weeks previously. I was upset, but I agreed this can't go on.

He said the ideal for him would be, when I get back from travelling (Jan - March) that we settle down properly if we still love each other.

I didn't grasp onto this. He still wanted me to visit for my birthday the following week and to take me out etc. I went down to London but with my friends and had a fun few days. He came to the night do and was all attentive etc like he was still my boyfriend. Then at the end of the night (after he'd had a few) he burst into tears, cried like a baby.

The day of my birthday he took me shopping and spent £700 on me. Then took me out for dinner - then it all went south and that horrible side to him creeped out and he told me I was always negative and cynical - this was at my birthday dinner.

The night was ruined. Great memory.

The next morning he apologised and said he loves me, do I love him too? I said yes. He said lets hold each other as this may be the last we see each other.

What? Last week it was a different story.

I left London that day, I was very upset for the next week just because he had tarnished the memory of my birthday so horribly and the messages he was giving me were so mixed.

He keeps contacting me about every other day, just mundane topics that are to do with his life, not mine.

Sometimes I respond, sometimes I don't.

Then he texted me this "I'm unhappy that we couldn't be together. Because I do love you, you were a great girlfriend, but we just shouldn't be together."

I agreed with him, stayed unemotional.

The thing that has messed my head up, is the mixed messages and odd behaviour - I can guarantee if I still lived in London he would have turned up at my door at some point or asked to see me. But being up here its easier to not have me on his mind I guess.

Just trying to move on, but interested to know other people's opinions, or if you have experienced something similar.

Any feedback would be hugely appreciated - trying to sort my head out :)

Thank you xx

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hiphoplollipop30 · 05/01/2015 12:06

The friend went to school with him and I've known him for a few years - he is most definitely supportive that I should only do whats best for me and that I deserve much much better.

He glossed over an evening they had had where ex almost drank himself to death, something the friend had not experienced before - and it was his thought that ex has lost best thing he had.

I felt nothing, just glad it wasn't all in my head and us breaking up would then mean the ex was now happy, pleasant and 'together'.

So it was very helpful in easing my doubts.

CheersMedea I saw that article a few weeks ago and thought I need to do that! haha Smile

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe 100%, if he was a good man I wouldn't have needed to ask for it. Would have sent me it even if I'd told him he didn't have to.

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Meerka · 05/01/2015 11:13

A mutual friend called me later on and said ex has lost his marbles, that I was the only good thing in his life that would make him feel better and now I've gone.

i hope your friend wasn't subtly trying to guilt you.

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 05/01/2015 10:40

Believe NOTHING that you are told, hiphop, really. Not from mutual friends either because they either don't have the facts, have been misled or like to stir. It's gratifying to think that an ex has fallen apart or that we were the only good thing in their lives... but it's really not flattering to have been partnered up with a flakey, spineless muppet even if it were true, is it?

If you don't receive the money next week then don't be surprised. I think that you should, at that point, write it off completely and really stop getting in touch with your ex. If your ex had anything about him, he would have got the money together and contacted YOU with you having to chase him for it. That should tell you all that you need to know about him. Cut your last ties to him and write off the money if he doesn't drop it off to you. Contact is painful, don't inflict that on yourself anymore.

Have a great time in NYC and put this relationship far behind you

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hiphoplollipop30 · 05/01/2015 09:25

Called him yesterday as he hadn't replied about this plane ticket money. I figured I want to call him and find out what is going on so I'm going to.

It was like talking to a moody teenage boy, I got the predicted 'you've been ignoring me' etc. I stayed upbeat, explained why I was ignoring briefly and shock horror he disagreed with my reasoning, that he hadn't said anything hurtful, he'd just stated facts, he hadn't cursed me out or anything.

I said you hurt my feelings, I imagine deep down you know you did, and thats the end of it.

He's going to send me half of the money for the plane ticket next week, which is what I'd asked for.

I'm not concerned, and I felt fine after the conversation, but he sounded like the most miserable person walking this earth. You think you'd pep it up for the ex? At least pretend you're fine?

I said you don't sound very well, he said that this is just how he is now, if I were to ask his Mum, Dad, sister, they'd all agree that this is just how he is now.

So I guess everyone except me has to conform to his nasty attitude.

He then mentioned a friend of his was pissing him off.

I feel so good that nothing has changed! He is still falling out with or getting pissed off at someone in his life - I read on another post if you know one arsehole you know one arsehole, if you know many arseholes, you are the arsehole.

A mutual friend called me later on and said ex has lost his marbles, that I was the only good thing in his life that would make him feel better and now I've gone.

Back to packing for NYC Brew

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MistressDeeCee · 25/12/2014 00:08

Mindgames. Go No Contact with him. You can set yourself a limit of 30 days if that seems better. Im sure you'll get support on MN whilst going through that. He'll mess you around forever if you let him, at the expense of your emotional health. If a man wants to be with you then he is with you. If he doesn't want to be, then he pulls shit like this. There's no "in-between".

How do you know what he says about his parents is true? You weren't there when he was growing up. His parents treat you well. Selfish mind-gamers always have a "blame" story. He'll be telling a story about you by now.

Focus on getting him out of your life, its not a relationship its a charade

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hiphoplollipop30 · 24/12/2014 22:06

Been crying for about the past hour - what set it off was my Dad being a miserable old sod at a nice Xmas Eve dinner that we all went out to. Rolling his eyes when I ordered a drink (barely been drinking and just felt like I wanted to the numb the pain for an evening - but no!) now my Mum has taken it out on me and I've been in bed since 9pm. My life is far too exciting!! Wink

I must never live at home again - not only for my sanity but probably for my parents'.

Dreading tomorrow, think this is the first time in 30 years I've not looked forward to Christmas. Think I'll just get drunk Wine

Proud of myself for not sending anything else after the email over a week ago - still, hurts a bit that he could be cruel and ignore me, but at the same time not shocking I guess.

Yes, can't wait for 2015, won't be doing anything on NYE here in the middle of nowhere, plan to be away for next Xmas and New Year!!

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NoRoomAtTheGin · 24/12/2014 06:14

Here's to 2015, the time for new starts and getting rid of bad habits - exactly what he is my darling x

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JaceyBee · 23/12/2014 23:44

God, he sounds utterly insufferable! What a boring, whiny, self-pitying, narcissistic douche! Quite the little prince isn't he? No-one recognises how special he is, he's so tortured and misunderstood. Yawn. Twats like this are ten a penny unfortunately. Here's to a 2015 free of him and his ilk! Nice one on the NC so far, keep it up!

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tipsytrifle · 23/12/2014 20:11

Don't wait for money or a response that would infuriate you if it ever came, dear soul. Live, search for your heart-mate if you so choose and be Happy Flowers

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elsabelle · 23/12/2014 20:05

Hi hiphop. how you doing? Sorry you havent heard back, but maybe its a blessing really. annoying about the money but maybe just forget it now and chalk it up as one of a life experience (ok, not a very pleasant one).

I am managing to stick with NC as the last few times of breaking it i just got so burned and hurt by ExPs horrible responses. In my self help book it says "Does it hurt when you do that? Then dont do that!" Its kinda become my new mantra - we need to stick with the people who do love us and treat us nicely. Thats what nourishes us and will help us to recover, dont prolong the agony. This is the right thing. You wouldnt want to spend your life with someone who blows hot and cold and isnt nice to you. Just like i wouldnt want to spend my life with someone who lies and cheats, however much it hurts now. I am early 30s too and i know it feels so daunting to have to start again, and thinking about biological clock etc but we will be ok :)

Big hug xxxx

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Annarose2014 · 23/12/2014 10:40

At a certain point you'll need to draw a final line under it/him. It seems you're not at that point yet.

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hiphoplollipop30 · 23/12/2014 10:23

Yeah Sad

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WildBillfemale · 23/12/2014 07:28

You weren't married, no kids, there is no reason to be in contact with this person. You have split up and are no longer in each others lives.
You seem addicted to the drama.
I've known many a person with far more serious illnesses than his and it doesn't turn them into an arse. Stop making excuses, stop allowing him to get to you. You are as much to blame in this ongoing saga as he is. It's over, no more contact.

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hiphoplollipop30 · 22/12/2014 20:41

Still nothing!! Angry

I don't regret contacting him but what the hell?

Said he missed me, understands Im hurting, hates that I'm ignoring him - so I guess yeah ignore me back - makes perfect sense.

He's either slumped into a deep depression, is being stubborn in deciding to ignore me back, or hates me.

He'll never change.

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hiphoplollipop30 · 19/12/2014 12:18

*fine

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hiphoplollipop30 · 19/12/2014 12:11

No reply so far.

Just got back from being in town and I've gone through six tissues crying my eyes out.

I was find yesterday! Angry

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elsabelle · 19/12/2014 00:42

Thanks for the support and wise words hiphop. I too am on the wine!Wine Yes he treated me so badly at the end and yet until then we were so very happy together (at least i was!). Truly the happiest ive ever been which is why its all come as such a shock and been so hard to let go of. Like your positive thinking about better, kinder people out there - we deserve it Grin

Any reply about the ticket yet? Well done for staying NC. I've been NC for about 5 weeks now and i THINK the pain might be lessening a bit. Fags and wine are def helping! We still have lots of friends in common but i try not to mention him when i see or speak to them and they havent brought him up either which is good. I am trying to visualise a happy future with a loving, FAITHFUL partner (ha!) and maybe a little one in my arms - it seems to be helping a bit :)

Totally understand what youre saying about people asking you 'why did you keep trying to do nice things for this guy?' I'm a total fixer and always believe being kind and nice can solve everything. You sound similar! And to be honest, some might call it naive, but i like living my life that way. I dont want to be cold and untrusting. Yes we got burned but we at least we know we always did our best!

Lots of love to you. We will get through this!! Flowers

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hiphoplollipop30 · 18/12/2014 22:05

Yep I'll just have to accept the loss if it comes to it, without flipping out at him!

I won't respond when he does contact me, he's shown himself up - making such a show when I ignored him and saying he missed me etc, can't miss me that much if playing tit for tat! It's pathetic.

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tipsytrifle · 18/12/2014 20:12

I agree that it's a hell of a toll to pay ... many of us have to bite the bullet on debt accrued one way or another by gits .. join the skint club, darling one! By Goddess, it sucks! Anyhow, I'm glad you don't intend to contact again. You'll get through the financials, I know you will. He ignored you because he's a twat. He WILL contact you back soon-ish. Please don't respond when he does! Your choice of course, I'm a bit bossy sometimes Blush

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hiphoplollipop30 · 18/12/2014 18:54

I'm 100% in agreement, I don't intend to contact him again. I'm not chasing him for this money.

He's proved me right though, I knew he'd ignore me because I've ignored him, so childish.

I really can't afford to write off the plane ticket, I've asked him for half the money so I think that's fair.

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tipsytrifle · 18/12/2014 12:14

Oh yes, I absolutely agree that the only thing you should accept from him now is a cheque. I doubt it will arrive but no other contact. No repeat asking and no real expectation of him doing the decent thing. Between depression, booze, weed and bleeding in the brain the man is a lost cause.

Concentrate now on having a wonderful Christmas and making a Fantastic New year for yourself!

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CaffeLatteIceCream · 18/12/2014 11:04

Do you desperately need the ticket money, or could you afford to write it off? If you can, I think you should. By asking for it, you've given him a little bit of control back (in his head), and he's exercising that to the fullest by ignoring you.

I honestly think you need total and complete non-contact. Block his every avenue of contact. Stick him on the blocked sender list for emails and download one of those apps that let's you block a number from calling or texting your phone.

Simply decide for yourself that you never wish to hear from him again, and that it is OVER. Who cares what he texts or emails, you won't know because you have moved on. All the time he has some way of reaching you, he will and you will be made vulnerable by your automatic emotional response to whatever it is he says.

Don't let him decide whether or not he's part of your life - make that decision for yourself.

The reason he's playing mind games is quite simple...he needs you to make him feel good about himself. "I don't want her, but she still wants me" is keeping him emotionally afloat - "She doesn't want me" is too hard for his ego to deal with.

It's all about HIM and what HE needs, not about you. Do you want to continue to support his monster ego at the expense of your own emotional well being?

You WILL get over this....guaranteed. But the process won't even begin all the time he can get hold of you. So, write off the ticket money if you can, block his email address and number and walk into your future without him.

Although, be prepared that once he realises that you're ignoring him again, he'll probably send you the ticket money to reel you back in....cash the cheque and ignore him. Don't even bother with a thank you.

Good luck :)

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hiphoplollipop30 · 18/12/2014 10:07

I emailed him tuesday evening about the plane ticket - still no reply.

Not shocked, he's spiteful by nature so we'll see if he replies over the next few days. I imagine he's still pissed off about me ignoring him and now I'm asking for money.

We got together in the October, and his first slip up was in February - turned on me in public when he was drunk. He got made redundant just before or after that Xmas, started smoking weed and drinking more.

However when I met his friends for the first time, friends he went to school with, the girls were quick to say that he's moody/has a temper.

Leading up to his aneurysm I'd say he was depressed - he smoked weed a lot and would come over with alcohol. I sat down with him one evening to calmly tell him his behaviour was not acceptable, that I'm worried about him and do not want him coming over to my fancy new flat with booze and weed and standing on my balcony making calls to his friends. Well, he flipped. You'd think I'd accused him of cheating - I felt a bit traumatised by that and I guess it was the early warning sign telling me to get out - honestly, just calmly trying to talk to him and he lost it.

Then I threw him a surprise party after he'd been out of hospital for a month or so, with all his friends, he loved it - but a few days later called me yelling at me that I never should have done that, its made him feel like shit etc. Another warning sign I should have left.

Few months later I bought us a trip to Amsterdam (I wasn't earning very much) as he always talked about his visits there and I wanted to go with him. He picked a fight with me out of nowhere a week before his bday (he went on to do this a week before his bday for the next few years, weird) and I ended up telling him I was planning to take him to Amsterdam. He was livid. Told me I shouldn't have done that, he doesn't want to go and will not go. Well I was beside myself, told him I couldn't be with someone that just throws it back in my face when I try to do something nice. Of course a few days later after silencing me out he got his shit together and we went and had a great time.

Honestly, its like he has a switch in his head - whether caused by the aneurysm or not. Sad

Looking back on what I just typed, I can see why a lot of people would be like 'why did you keep trying to do nice things for this guy?' but honestly I'd never been in a 'bad' relationship or with someone that has a temper etc so I was quite clueless in how to deal with it and understand.

Having gone through this, if someone didn't want to communicate calmly about a problem, or threw it back in my face when I did something nice for them, they wouldn't even get a second chance.

Angry

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tipsytrifle · 18/12/2014 09:13

ouch about the ticket but you've done the right thing to ask him to pay towards it. Have you researched aneurysms at all? What was he like in the first 6mths before it happened? If he was a nasty sod all through then that is probably his innate bad nature. Though aneurysms cause trouble for a long time before they burst.

You can't over-analyse Nature with any real satisfaction! You can learn about the physiology of a blood-burst in the brain and gain some understanding of what's going on alongside his shitty character. But really, you've done so well to maintain NC because this really is over Flowers

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