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Don't think I love fiance anymore. Sham marriage looming.

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HeadlessAndBowless · 24/06/2014 13:15

Due to get married next June but the more time ticks on, the less love I'm feeling for him. We clash on a lot of things, we both have stressful jobs and I like to come home from work and relax. He likes to come home from work and start fannying around with DIY, kicks off if the house is untidy, runs around fixing things and tidying things and then moans at me that he's come in from work and had to "run around after everyone" but he chooses to do it!! even when I tell him not to he won't listen. A few months ago he offered to help his mum sell her house and then slagged her off and whinged like mad that he was expected to sort out everyone's lives for them - but he almost insisted on doing it!! It's got to the point where I don't like him doing things for me and the kids because he just uses it as an excuse to moan and whine later on.

He's constantly sarcastic with me. If I say to him something innocent and NORMAL like "oo the bank is looking a bit poorly this month" he'll immediately switch to arsehole mode and start saying "oh - ok well I won't eat this month, will that make you feel better about it?" Hmm

He's such a know it all, I constantly get from him "oh well I've done this/that/the other before so I know how it is." this includes "Ive been married before so I know all about it", "I've been abroad loads of times so I know everything there is to know", "Ive done camping loads of times so I'm the one that will get everyone through it". - he's done EVERYTHING before so he dismisses everyone elses experiences in favour of him being the leader. Example of this is that we're going to a festival this week, it's his 6th time (and yeah, I've heard that statement many, many times now), my second time and our friends - it's their 1st time. Well DP seems to think that everyone will be useless and die without his help. He keeps trying to take over everything, keeps commenting to me that our friends will be fucked when they get their as they're so green - he's even sat there with a smug face saying "oh I'm going to have a right game looking after 3 green people all week!" - nobody wants fucking "Looking after", we're adults! he's so patronizing.

He never shows any enthusiasm for ANYHING unless it's something HE wanted to do. Our upcoming holiday to the other side of the world for instance in 6 weeks - he's barely spoken about it. So frustrating. He never speaks about our supposed wedding next year. In fact, he wanted to cancel it and save the money so we could do a festival instead (nice priorities there). I compromised and said we'd do the wedding and go to the festival as our honeymoon. He agreed yet a couple of weeks later has invited his son and girlfriend to the festival with us as if it's just a normal jolly away camping. I was like "hey, that's supposed to be our honeymoon! did you forget??" and he replied "oh I know but they won't camp with us, we'll just be taking them down in car". It's like the whole thing is NOTHING to him.

I used to love him so much but lately I just can't be arsed with him. I can't be arsed with his lack of enthusiasm, I can't be arsed with his sarcasm, I can't be arsed with his constant pessimism - I daydream about being engaged to a man who actually, genuinely wanted me and wanted to make me happy.

I think I'm marrying for financial security alone. I've denied it to myself for ages but when I truely think about it, I don't want this for the rest of my life :-( How do you know when you no longer love someone??

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Pobblewhohasnotoes · 27/06/2014 14:22

I said on your last thread don't marry him and I'll say it again on this one. Why would you marry someone you don't love. What are you waiting for?

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Needasilverlining · 27/06/2014 12:30

Groovedaddy, I have to take issue with your post on behalf of the many men out there who are functioning human beings rather than selfish shites. My DH would be very angry at the assumption that I should put up with crap from him because he's just a man, poor lamb, and knows no better.

SOME men get far too complacent and take their women for granted. Some women do the same with their partners. Some PEOPLE are shit partners, some people aren't. If you care about your partner, you don't need to be taught - you think, you listen, and you learn.

Shit, selfish, complacent partners who've been told repeatedly what they've been doing wrong sometimes get dumped. And so they should be.

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Groovedaddy · 26/06/2014 21:57

Don't marry him...yet - explain to him why. Maybe the shock will help him to take a hard look at his behaviour, which to me sounds REALLY immature and self centred. I have learnt from bitter experience not to get too complacent in any relationship. We men get far too complacent and take our women for granted. Few do it to deliberately hurt their partners but no one teaches you how to be a better partner? You learn from hard mistakes, supportive friends, mature reflection and an imaginative, patient woman.

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AnyFucker · 26/06/2014 21:25

he has been "irritating" her in various predictable ways for years clam

we are all wasting our time here

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clam · 26/06/2014 19:41

For God's sake, if this bloke irritates the hell out of you already, how on earth do you think that's going to pan out after a couple of years? Decades? Can you seriously imagine being with him aged 80?

Hell, I want to whack him with a shovel already, just from what you've posted here.

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somedizzywhore1804 · 26/06/2014 11:05

Different circumstances as I never loved my former fiancé properly, but I cancelled our wedding a few months prior to the wedding when it really hit me square between the eyes that I just didn't love him and didn't want this forever.

It caused a bit of a shit storm for a few months but I never regretted it. In fact I had a dream only the other night that i didn't cancel the wedding and went ahead with it. I woke up sweaty and panicked and the feeling of relief was amazing. That tells you everything you need to know.

I'm a firm believer that you know when it's right and you equally know when it's wrong.

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rosepetalsoup · 26/06/2014 10:48

Haha Hogwash!

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Hogwash · 26/06/2014 10:41

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BarbarianMum · 25/06/2014 18:29

He sounds awful. Marrying someone you don't like for their money financial security doesn't make you sound pretty awful too. Are you really that person?

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FellReturneth · 25/06/2014 18:07

Ah. Nuff said.

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AnyFucker · 25/06/2014 13:13

Yes, Fell.

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FellReturneth · 25/06/2014 10:40

Eleanor's spreadsheet must unravel to the size of the Bayeaux Tapestry. How in God's name so you remember all this stuff? Grin

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FellReturneth · 25/06/2014 10:37

Hello. Hmm Woss gahn on?

AF are you alluding to the same thing as Eleanor?

I must admit I was wondering why the OP hadn't come back.

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Needasilverlining · 25/06/2014 09:50

I keep hearing Daddy Pig - 'I'm a bit of an expert on festivals...'

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Spiritedwolf · 24/06/2014 22:30

Don't marry Gilderoy Lockhart! Can you imagine this from him in 2 years time "I've been divorced before, I'm the expert in how these things work..."

HeadlessandBowless "Tell me, what is it you plan to do
with your one wild and precious life?”

What is the point in marrying someone insufferable when you could be out there living your own free life, keeping an eye out for someone who you truly do love and respect - who loves and respects you too, to share it with.

It sounds as if cancelling this wedding would be a relief to you both, maybe his talk of not wanting to miss the festival for the wedding or spend money on it was a big hint. There is no shame in changing your mind but you need to act upon it, it would be daft to marry him knowing that your heart wasn't in it. How on earth are you going to stand the next 11 months, let alone years?

It is sad to see women still making choices like these. Financial security... really? How much financial security is someone who would cancel a wedding to save the money to attend a festival? And who wants to car-share to the festival? It doesn't sound like you're talking about marrying a band member of a headline act - does it?

How little do you think years of your life are worth?

That said, whilst I agree with a lot of posters on this thread... if you do marry him, please don't feel that you can't change your mind and divorce. It's messy, but I'd hate to think of a person in an unhappy marriage for decades because the felt they couldn't complain because they knew what the other person was like. If you made your bed and its uncomfortable, then go out and get yourself a new mattress, don't lie in it. Maybe you don't have the courage now to end things, but one day you will. But it'll take more courage to end a marriage than to call off one and split up with a boyfriend, so if you can do it now, it would be better for you to.

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ScrambledSmegs · 24/06/2014 22:18

Oh, god, really Eleanor? Taken in, again.

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wyrdyBird · 24/06/2014 22:17

I feel as if I know this guy very well by now.
:(
You seem strangely detached from him, no matter what he does, OP. Why are you sleepwalking into a sham marriage (by your own admission)?

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QuintessentiallyQS · 24/06/2014 22:04

Itsfab has a point. Life would be empty.

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QuintessentiallyQS · 24/06/2014 22:03

I am shallow, can you not cosmic order me some cash? I want a new car.

Hang on, you cant even cosmic order some funds for yourself, and neither can this man you are marrying for financial security.....

Get a grip, get another job, get a new life.

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upupupandaway · 24/06/2014 22:03

It's hard when you get caught up with the dream you have envisaged. What you want and what you know you are going to have are two separate issues. Let go of the dream and follow your head, Nothing is ever going to change , however much time/ love/emotional stuff you've invested. Cut your losses. I think you need a couple of years to be by yourself and invest in making yourself happy as a single person.

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EverythingsDozy · 24/06/2014 21:56

I have seen two previous threads about you and your P. The first time I thought "leave him". The second time I told you, "leave him". By the looks of it, the whole of mn have told you to leave him. Seriously now, no shit, leave him.
You have been so miserable for so long, he is not the man to marry! Leave him. Leave him, leave him, leave him.
Just. Leave.

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morethanpotatoprints · 24/06/2014 21:47

Why get married when you know its a sham?
There's a reason he's been married before, summed up nicely in your post.
Seems like his x did the great escape, maybe take a leaf out of her book.

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Itsfab · 24/06/2014 21:46

oh you must marry him

what else will you do with your time if you can't moan about him on here?

Hmm.

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expatinscotland · 24/06/2014 21:45

Cosmic order my child back to me, please.

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expatinscotland · 24/06/2014 21:44

GET RID.

Marry someone for money, and you'll earn every penny.

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