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When the OW comes to your house......................

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Beehive52 · 02/06/2014 18:57

Long time MN have name changed as am known to some of you very well on other talkboards..... Bit of a long story - basically my husband changed jobs a couple of years ago due to cuts at work. He is a senior professional, very well known in his field, we have been married 20 years, two children, boys, 18 and 15. We relocated to a different part of the country, uprooting away from an area we loved and were loved. No family here, just spent the past year getting children settled in schools etc. I am now an SAHM, dependent on his income. Right from the word go, an invisible barrier went up, we went through the motions, not particularly happy or unhappy, I gave up my job, began job hunting, etc when we moved here. All through the year, my instincts were telling me something was wrong. Little hints, messages 'this colleague' had been to visit in the house when I wasn't there etc. Nothing specific. Asked him whether he was having an affair, answer always no.

A phone call from 'the colleague' six months on revealed a two year affair. A deep emotional affair which had started before we moved house. Myself and the children blissfully unaware. She told me. He didnt, but confessed all, how he had been lonely working away, ( we lived apart for nearly 2 years whilst eldest was in year 10) felt disconnected from me, the usual bollocks. He went to docs and is on high dose anti depressants. But I agreed to counselling because I do love him. and acknowledged the marriage had been in the doldrums for some time and we had never addressed it. We both admitted neglect of the marriage. We are both good parents, we have always been good friends through some very difficult times. Not enough. Six months of counselling with relate, some tough talking, very hard on the children. I thought progress was being made, some days away together, better, open relationship and better and active sex life. Last weekend I opened the door to her standing there. She barged in, insisted on talking to him,horrible showdown with myself and children present. He stood there like a rabbit caught in headlights and EVEN THEN I didn't realise. Over that weekend, a stray email revealed a secret email account, full of intimate messages and photos, all going back to the original phone call in October.

I kicked him out and now know we need to separate. I so wanted to forgive him, to move on with him and truly wanted to believe he was over it all. I wanted to believe it was her instigating it all, and manipulating him. Emails proved he was infatuated with her. He appeared last weekend, shattered, forlorn, ill, and begged me not to give up on him... that she was an obsession, a fantasy and that he loved me and our children. I now feel that I am back to where I was in October - bereft, deeply hurt and not sleeping with high anxiety.

I know what I have to do, please give me the push I need.

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AdeleNazeem · 12/06/2014 19:33

you sound like you're doing amazingly well. lots of love and luck!

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beachyhead · 11/06/2014 13:30

I'm so pleased that you say you are scared but excited about your holiday. That's a great start point. It sounds like you've had your legal advice, so you should know where you stand (or be a bit clearer).

You are so right to go out and source your own activities and a job, as the space they take up will actually mean the door will slowly be closing on him without you focusing on it so much.

And remember, you are not tied to this place forever. Your youngest son is 15, so he will be off to uni within 3-4 years and it may be that you consider a move then.

I hope your h has the decency to give you the headspace that you need.

Wish you all the best...

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Beehive52 · 11/06/2014 06:47

If it were left only to me I would move far, far away and get some headspace and recover. I know my boys will have a relationship with their Dad whatever, but I have been advised that my sons rights are to have regular access and I know with the nature of husbands job etc any kind of distance would make regular contact difficult. I've talked to both sons and they still want to see him. Eldest is having a gap year before Uni probably anyway.

I have to keep things sane and civilised for their sake even though there are times when I feel homicidal!! I am working towards closing the door on him. Now looking for jobs/activities so I can be less reliant on him and more independent which I have to be now anyway. I will be going on holiday with the boys on my own, I am scared but excited as well. I have had desperate moments where I just want to cave in and wake up sobbing....it's hard going.

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beachyhead · 10/06/2014 23:12

It's so tough and so tricky timewise for your ds. You are doing really well and I do understand the need to leave the door open regardless. At least then when you do choose to close it, it's your choice, in your time.

As my very best friend said to me at a similar time 'I know he's an idiot, but he's my idiot!'. Unfortunately for both you and she, he isn't really your idiot anymore and you do deserve better......

Your boys are almost men and they will have whatever relationship they want/need with their dad wherever they and you are living. I know you don't really know what you want at this stage, but looking at options away from where you are now may be valuable, just an alternative viewpoint.

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Beehive52 · 10/06/2014 22:37

Hi thanks for message and for caring... All a bit manic here as just trying to concentrate on eldest A Levels and surviving on a day to day basis! I have been getting legal advice re moving away and on balance, it seems to be a better option to stay... Because of his age I would have to have a really good reason for moving like a job offer etc not just because I want to. the boy has rights to see his dad and they have a very close relationship which would be jeopardised by distance.

I have seen my husband a few times since he got back and we have talked, cried, shouted etc... Away from the house. He is broken by what he's done and has taken loa from work to get medical support, therapy, whatever. I have told him I can't and won't carry him, this is his journey.

It's tough. I still love him but hate what he has done and what he has become but I haven't slammed the door shut totally. I shall get on with my life, make plans for the summer, watch him suffer and simmer in the vain hope he may find some humility, he has, rightly so, been brought very low. Might even try some on line dating as a diversion ;)

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beachyhead · 10/06/2014 18:46

How are you Beehive? I'm not sure on the dates as to when (d)h is back. I was wondering how your boys are? Do you think it would be possible for the youngest to do 6th form back where you lived previously? And are the oldest's plans local? It would be great if you could make a clean break.

I think, by her appearance at your house coupled with him actually going in the trip, I would forge forth on your own with your boys.

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FantasticButtocks · 08/06/2014 10:52

Tell him that now you have thought about it you are glad it has happened, that you have realised that he is a twat Grin love it!

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brighteyedbusytailed · 06/06/2014 08:46

Great post Housing! X

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Housingheadaches · 05/06/2014 11:33

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ChangelingToday · 05/06/2014 10:05

Sorry was replying to post on wrong page! Apologies

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ChangelingToday · 05/06/2014 10:04

Post above says he is on a work trip he couldn't get out of. I think she has said this a couple times already.

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elastamum · 05/06/2014 09:26

Beehive. I read your thread this morning and want to post some words of support.

Your story could have been mine. We also sold up and moved 100's of miles whilst my ExH was having an affair. When I discovered it he left me and my young children in a huge house in the countryside hundred's of miles from anyone I knew.

You get to a point where there is no going back. I got a good lawyer, got divorced, got a new haircut (apparently this seems to help!) and got a job in my old profession. Five years on (now in my 50's) I have found a lovely new partner who my DC like and am really happy. ExH remarried and is now once again divorced.

I had a hard couple of years, but have come out of it much happier and stronger. You can do it too Smile

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Beehive52 · 05/06/2014 07:11

Thank you again......I love your phrase 'safe your puff for your own porridge'and will remember it for inspiration. You are all right. I am focussing on her as her betrayal and airbrushing me out of history has been so hurtful. Your comments about the volte face are revealing and spot on, I guess I WAS expecting her to show some morality and decency. If it were one of my sons I would have hoped I would of course given them love and shelter but also encouraged and nurtured a situation for understanding and reconciliation but her new found BFF ness with OW effectively removed me from her life. I need to stop focussing on the bitterness towards her and be grateful I never have to see her again, I have other fish to fry.....

Today I am talking to a family lawyer and planning an escape this summer, oh and of course revising for General Studies A Level Wink. Thank you again.

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VenusDeWillendorf · 05/06/2014 01:15

Beehive, so sorry this is happening in your life now.

Try and focus your energies where they will pay pack for you and your children, that is in the legal and financial settlements.

Try to step away and disengage from the emotional entanglement with him and his mother and his ow.
They're not important to you going forward - they will have no role to play in your happy future life, and so don't deserve a second thought.

Best of luck to your exam boys- chin up and carry on, and save your puff for your own porridge.

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saffronwblue · 05/06/2014 00:44

Bee try to focus your anger on stbxh rather than Mil or the appalling OW what a cow .
Try to think about your happy life to come when you and your dc have a house ful of laughter, honesty and integrity and they see you being your true joyful self.

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Nevergrowingup · 04/06/2014 22:24

I think that some of what you have experienced from your MIL is actually pretty standard volte-face by a parent whose DC has defied normal rules and dumped on their DW and DCs. The faith element makes it more galling, as though their faith makes their betrayal more worthy, but it is the same pattern of a parent not wanting to take any responsibility for their offspring being adulterous and abusive.

By minimising the behaviour and readily accepting the new 'normal', they rewrite history overnight and decide that their son/daughter had no choice and it is a relief to see them happy again.

The fallout doesn't matter - DCs, DW. As long as their public face is saved and their story sounds plausible, they'd betray anyone to keep face.

I've seen it before and people are happy to believe their 'truth' because they are such pillars of the community.

That is why you must take steps to remove him from your life formally. Let a solicitor take the load and walk off into the sunset. You owe it to yourself to enjoy your life away from these idiots.

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Beehive52 · 04/06/2014 21:52

In six months my 'devout MIL' hasn't shown me one drop of compassion or caring, Christian or otherwise. I hate the way she uses it as a cloak if that makes sense.part if me is torn because I know she does love herblood relatives grandchildren and that relationship should be important. However her mistreatment of me, her lies and spinning reveal a truly dark person. I can see why PFB legged it to the other side of the world....

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brighteyedbusytailed · 04/06/2014 21:23

*in a just world

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brighteyedbusytailed · 04/06/2014 21:22

Fair enough OP , but if she starts to make your life difficult I wouldn't hesitate it wouldn't be a loss of dignity IYSWIM ppl take religion very seriously I feel her behavior is almost a betrayal to her follers aswell in a just they would find out and vote with their feet.

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Beehive52 · 04/06/2014 19:32

Thank you julia this is really helpful, free legal advice. Will report back. Flowers

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JuliaScurr · 04/06/2014 19:05

www.rightsofwomen.org.uk/

might be useful

so sorry to hear how appallingly badly you have been treated. OW sounds as hideous as your STBX - hopefully she'll revert to type and treat him as badly as she did her poor ex. of course you feel terrible, stbx has been absolutely vile. You will recover, even if you can't believe that yet. one day at a time, even one hour at a time. have a little treat every day to reward yourself for moving away from the past and towards your future.

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Nevergrowingup · 04/06/2014 18:21

Haha! what an excellent idea. There's certainly enough material. Of course you might need to add the following:

This is a work of fiction. Names, characters, businesses, places, events and incidents are either the products of the author’s imagination or used in a fictitious manner. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental.

Wink

The A Level pressures are starting to tail off in our house - not soon enough in my opinion!

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sicutlilium · 04/06/2014 18:17

the 'announcement of their relationship to rest of colleagues card' reduced in the sale Classy Grin

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Beehive52 · 04/06/2014 18:11

Oh I've got a novel in my mind's eye once I can see the funny side Wink

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bigbuttons · 04/06/2014 18:08

bloody hell OP. You couldn't make it up.......

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