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Am I a terrible bitch to DH? Quite long and self involved!

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Marzipanface · 03/04/2014 15:46

Background is I have spent the last five days staying at DBs flat other side of country with my two children. DH stayed at home to do work although three of those days were weekend and annual leave for his birthday.

Baby ds fell ill whilst i was there. Hospital visit but turned out to just be virus. I ended up extending my stay as could not face five hour train journey with constantly crying 10 month old baby. I had v little sleep whilst I was there. Ds was coughing and screaming all night, everynight. I come home on day 5 as ds has improved. On the train my DD starts vomiting just into the journey :( then she faints. She has blood sugar problems so this has happened before. It was very stressful to say the
least, but I managed to stay calm and deal with her throwing up and collapsing, and with a toddling cranky 10 month old stuck between carriages as we had no seats for the first two hours.

I texted DH who offered to collect us. Sweet but impractical. I asked him if he could please please meet me off train on platform as had a wobbly 4yr old in pushchair, a free range baby, backpack and two other bags. He didn't, choosing instead to amble down platform whilst I got a stranger to help. I snapped at him. 'Thanks for helping me off the train'. His face fell and I basically got passive agressive distant treatment for a while as is the usual form, however, I did apologise later on and organised presents (actually his birthday that day) and a takeaway and put kids to bed, cleared up the vomit laden bags and buggy. Not quite in that order! He remained frosty with me for some time despite all of this.

I slept with both kids in our bed as Dd was up in night retching etc and I was worried about her blood sugar. Baby was also up four times in night. I breastfeed btw. Dh had a nights sleep downstairs on sofa. So night six of hardly any sleep for me... my ds seems to have taken a turn for the worse. Coughing and crying, my Dd now has diarrhoea. DH asks what is wrong with baby and I was pretty sarcastic. 'He has a virus, I had to take him to hospital remember?' DH gets stroppy. 'Do you realise how horrid and snappy you've been since you got back?' and then he starts up the sulky treatment again.

I can't deal with it. I am SHATTERED. I have two sick children, I also have a cold. I cannot deal with DH disappearing in a sulk because I was sarcasti to him. Surely a grown man can see I am at the end of my tether and need support?

So i lost my temper big time. I roared at him, shouted, cried. Called him a child. My poor girl was scared and frightened. I stomped out of the house to go to the post office and cooled down a bit. When I got back I have been told that I 'devalue and discredit' my DHs arguments, that it is unreasonable for me to shout him down and call him names. He shouldnt
have to put up with me being stroppy and grumpy... and he has nothing to apologise for. He actually rarely apologises for anything.

second round right now - I told him out of earshot of children that I currently hate him and want to get out of the house away from him. I've never spoken to him like that before.

Things have quietened down now.

Am I a horrible horrible person? I feel wretched.

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cerealqueen · 04/04/2014 00:07

He has had five child free days and nights and wonders why you are angry? he has no fucking idea. Furious on your behalf. Tell him to get a grip.

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cerealqueen · 04/04/2014 00:10

PS Sleep deprivation is a form of torture in some countries.


Get an alarm, him in the spare room/sofa have it go off every few hours for the next four nights and ask him sweetly how he feels at the end of it.

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Goldmandra · 04/04/2014 00:37

So i lost my temper big time. I roared at him, shouted, cried. Called him a child.

How is that abusive?

I told him out of earshot of children that I currently hate him and want to get out of the house away from him.

Or that?

How ridiculous!

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Goldmandra · 04/04/2014 00:41

You know what's abusive?

Allowing someone to become so sleep deprived that they can no longer cope because you think your right to eight hours a night trumps their right to any sleep at all is abusive.

Sulking and withdrawing emotionally because someone says something you don't much like is abusive.

Losing your rag through sleep deprivation and lack of support is a cry for help, not abuse.

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Idocrazythings · 04/04/2014 00:56

Roses are red
Violets are blue
OP's DH was a dick
And so is Haiku


Sorry, couldn't help it, Haiku, but I don't think your poems are coming across as witty and carefully considered as you think they might be. Seriously though. If DH came to the train station why couldn't he get there ten minutes early then text her and say which carriage are you in etc. and be as close to it as possible with a trolley and grab a child of her. Not leave her to fend for herself with help from a stranger. If do that. My mum would do that for me. Not sure if my DH would. Many men really need to step up and stop being man-child's.

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TheVictorian · 04/04/2014 01:13

Marzipanface after everything you have said to your Dh, how do you feel ?

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MexicanSpringtime · 04/04/2014 01:27

You probably have to learn to speak more clearly. I read someone who said that he should do things without you having to ask, but sometimes how we feel is not written all over us.
I would apologise and explain how desperately tired you are.

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AnswersThroughHaiku · 04/04/2014 01:42

They're not supposed to
Be witty or wise (that's just
A pleasant bonus).

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complexnumber · 04/04/2014 03:13

I've never said I hated him though. I don't.

But this was in your first post...

I told him out of earshot of children that I currently hate him

It is to your credit that you acknowledge that you have anger issues, it would be good if your DP could also appreciate this, but it is very hard if you are on the receiving end (trust me).

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TheseAreTheJokesFolks · 04/04/2014 03:41

Meh. Having been through this a lot lately I know exactly why you reacted like that. There is a middle ground between being a terrible bitch and a pushover doormat but with sleep deprivation on top of juggling vomit you won't find it. So cut yourself some slack OP, you do not have the luxury of 8 hours sleep nor will you for some time...unless he is taking kids out all day at weekend then you win top trumps martyrdom edition by default. In reality you win feck all so DH ought to make tea and grovel. Hard out here for a bitch as the delightful miss Allen confirms. I remember the haiku thread 5.7.5 isn't it so some of those replies are wrong and yes I am that pedantic in real life.

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TheseAreTheJokesFolks · 04/04/2014 03:47

You don't hate him you hate the disparity but whilst he IS the the reason for said inequality atm then he is the target of vitriol. It is harder to love someone when they are at their worst. He needs to understand that and suck it up or take over the night shift. Thought not. I hate him too ;-)

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TheLadyRadishes · 04/04/2014 08:37

Agree Haiku, if you're going to set yourself up as the haiku oracle, you need to work on your haikus. (Though actually don't, because it's annoying)

I don't think having a sleep-deprived angry outburst when you have a valid thing to be angry about is "anger issues". It's anger, and we all get angry sometimes. Anger issues is getting angry all the time about unimportant things.

OP knowns she crossed a line and is sorry. OTOH, her DH's behaviour has been lazy, childish and seriously infuriating. It needs sorting out, they need a serious conversation about helping her not be so sleep-deprived, they both need to apologise. But the situation she was put in would push most people to the limit.

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Nanny0gg · 04/04/2014 08:38

*They're not supposed to
Be witty or wise *

Whew! That's a relief!

(What's the point then?)

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TruffleOil · 04/04/2014 09:49

I actually have hated my husband many times throughout our marriage, and I almost always hated him when our children were ill.

I have struggled with my anger throughout our marriage, but I can also say that I did not bring anger issues into our marriage, they were frankly borne of my marriage.

Some fathers have a way of allowing the mother to immerse themselves into the care of a sick child, then claim that they feel useless, then offer help half-heartedly, then retreat into a passive-aggressive shell when they're rejected because the mother is just too tired and angry to cope.

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Marzipanface · 04/04/2014 09:49

complex sorry I missed out a word! I meant to say I have never said I hated him before this argument.

Sorry for confusion.

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SallyMcgally · 04/04/2014 10:05

Haiku - you're being ridiculous. Nobody in their right minds would tell a bloke who snapped at a woman because he'd had 6 nights without sleep, who already had health problems and was looking after 2 sick children while his partner slept sweetly on the sofa that he was being abusive FFS. And you're just being goady about the hating comment. OP - you've been pushed to the end of your tether. Glad your DH is stepping up now.

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Marzipanface · 04/04/2014 10:11

He looked after ill daughter most of the day. We have had further arguments. He is looking after the kids and I am about to try and grab some sleep as up with poorly baby in night. (night 7) plus have stinking cold. Both kids have D & v bug.

It does seem quite unfair. My anger is not valid. I have 'anger management' issues. I'm afraid accepting this will be taken as further evidence that DH is blameless all the time.

He DOES look after the children, he is a lovely bloke and has been my rock in the past. v supportive and amazing, however he does have this habit of withdrawing when he feels attacked. An 'attack' can be a tone of voice, grumpiness, or sarcasm. He was seriously emotionally and verbally abused by a narcissistic father so is a very timid man in general who can't cope with any kind of confrontation. He was also taught to never express his feelings. I come from a similar background but shouting and anger were everyday occurences.

neither of us want our children to go through what we went through :(

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bigdog888 · 04/04/2014 10:27

YABU I'm with your OH I'm afraid. You were abusive and I'm surprised you're not now a single parent. Hopefully he'll come to his senses and drop you like a hot coal!

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TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 04/04/2014 10:36

Glad he is supporting you today.

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Littlegreyauditor · 04/04/2014 11:04

Her life would probably be easier then bigdog888 as she would have one less "child" to deal with. Hmm

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Goldmandra · 04/04/2014 11:12

If losing your temper in response to sleep deprivation and unreasonable behaviour there must be very few couples in this world who are not in abusive relationships Confused

OP, I can completely understand why you need your OH to see it from your perspective and stop using emotional withdrawal to bully you into disregarding your own feelings and needs.

Do you have someone who knows him too that you can talk this through with in RL?

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Marzipanface · 04/04/2014 11:13

Really bigdog? you think he should leave me? Tear his family apart?

Walk away from his children and leave his wife because she shouted at him...

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Goldmandra · 04/04/2014 11:13

Sorry. Missed a bit of that sentence.

If losing your temper in response to sleep deprivation and unreasonable behaviour is abuse, there must be very few couples in this world who are not in abusive relationships.

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Marzipanface · 04/04/2014 11:18

Goldmandra your posts made me cry. They sum up exactly how I feel and the situation frm my POV.

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oscarwilde · 04/04/2014 12:00

What Goldmandra said. Under the circs you were only human to blow your top I think.

In the interests of preserving family life and not having a hateful weekend it might be good to sit down with DH and to simply say I am sorry to have gone off at you like a raving loony but I was out of my mind with sleep deprivation and you taking mortal offence at me being short with you didn't help matters.

I think it might be helpful to acknowledge to him that you both have very different behaviour patterns where rage and conflict are concerned and that neither are healthy. Then see what you can agree together to address it.

I have a habit of letting things build until I go off the deep end too. DH hates a row and will either do exactly what your DH does or laugh at me. Neither gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling towards him. Angry
We've agreed that I'll try to flag my irritation levels to him earlier and he'll try to accept that it's normal to p*ss someone off every so often, and to make amends and get over it, not turn it into the 100yr silent war.

Hope the children recover over the weekend and you can both get some downtime.

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