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Nobody fancies me now that I have put on weight...or is because of something else?

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mumlon2013 · 21/11/2013 02:26

For the past year I have been going through a bitter divorce and my ex-husband showed NO affection whatsoever for the past 3 years. So technically, I have been "single" for years.

Before I had my children, I considered myself attractive and had a lot of guys wanting to date me. Obviously, I didn't take up any offers because I was married. With kids, I put on a few stones and that is why nobody now asks me on a date and no man even looks at me. I am a size 20 desperately trying to lose weight to go back to a 12 but just keep comfort eating.

I reason with myself that it is all in my head and all my friends keep telling me I am still very attractive even with the extra pounds. But hey they are my friends, they cannot tell me I am too ugly!

I tried a bit of online dating but nothing came out of it. One guy really liked me and kept telling me I looked beautiful but I could not imagine that somebody could fancy me.

I want to believe that personality is what really matters but why is nobody interested in me if people generally like me and like being in my presence?

Will I not be asked out until I lose some weight? That sounds crazy.

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Darkesteyes · 23/11/2013 16:31

Another good reason not to bother with OD then. A lot of us peak sexually in our 30s/40s so the idiots are missing out although i wouldnt want to date someone with that attitude anyway.

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Lizzabadger · 23/11/2013 07:51

I online-dated at size 10 and there were no takers once I hit 40.

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tigerbear · 22/11/2013 19:20

Hi, I agree, its about confidence as well as making the most of yourself, HOWEVER, it's difficult for anyone to find decent men out there online especially.

I'm a size 8-10, think I've never looked better, am on online dating and I'm finding it soul destroying, no-one fancies me either....

Good luck!

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BsshBossh · 22/11/2013 14:40

mumlon2013 fantastic take-aways. Best of luck on this new journey! You can do it :) Keep us posted.

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Umpire · 22/11/2013 13:56

i'm 9 stone and nobody fancies me. i don't know. you have to be so pretty before men notice you i think. even men that aren't attractive. :-/ single for ever, i have long, long, long since stopped expecting people to fancy me. sad, cos I hardly feel dead yet. what can ya do?

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Darkesteyes · 22/11/2013 13:53

Velvet said this.


I am still 2.5 stone away from what BMI calls a 'healthy' weight, hence I don't tend to tell people what I weigh (it's a lot more than my appearance and dress size would suggest)


Yep Im the same. Ive showed ppl my before and after photos from the first time i lost a lot of weight. In the after photo ppl thought i weighed 9 and a half stone I didnt. In that photo im 11 stone 4.
My lowest weight was 10 stone 12.

A young woman at my slimming class told me she weighs 14 stone 2 Does she look it? NO WAY

By the sound of it OD makes dating a cold clinical soulless experience. A couple of my friends described my ex OM as "not very good looking" I couldnt see what they were on about because we had AMAZING sexual chemistry. .....that electricity.....that spark.


Online dating? They can fucking keep it!

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WannabeFayeMouse · 22/11/2013 12:06

best of luck mumlon I hope you're happy in whatever you do. You sound absolutely lovely.

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something2say · 22/11/2013 11:56

Ledkr - there would be almost no fat in that sort of diet, except in the almonds.

I have found that it just slid off me. Not that I was overweight to start with. It is also nice to cook the veg on the hob in a frying pan with a bit of water, high heat, some soy sauce and honey, make some chili flakes and some seeds.....really tasty and filling.....and no fat. Good skin, good hair, no issues around going to the loo.....and over time it has ended up that I got used to natural good quality food so when I eat shit, it feels bad immediately and I reach for the veg instead.

I learnt it all from my boyfriend. He didn't make a song and dance about it, he just quietly stopped eating rubbish and doesn't even when we eat out.

Someone made a valid point about how modern food is so much about processed this and that, and to get back to simple food has been good. If it grows in the ground, eat it, if not don't.

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mumlon2013 · 22/11/2013 11:39

Just wanted to say thanks to you all for taking the time to reply to my question. It has been interesting to read through all your opinions, advice and personal experiences. It has helped me to create a clear view on what I need to do to sort myself out.

The following advice I find useful and agree with:
Not fancying big people is one's preference, not necessarily discrimination or being shallow. I, for example, only find bigger guys attractive (even when I was slim) and even if I force myself to like a slim guy for his personality, the chemistry simply will not be there.
Be happy and confident in yourself.
If you need to lose weight, lose it for yourself, not to attract a date. That will happen on its own once you are happy about your size.
Most but not all guys prefer slim/average women so if you are large, there will be fewer men you can pick from/who will be interested.
Being a size 20 is unhealthy - I do agree that I personally feel unhealthy at this size and cannot see any benefits being this big.
Being big does not equal being unfit.
The best way to lose weight - eat healthily and reasonable portions, with the occasional treat and exercise.
People do make judgements about big people (well, about everyone who is even slightly different anyway). Being big can affect one's chances to get a job.

When I am down to a comfortable weight, all happy and confident...I will let you know whether I am chasing the guys away! :-)

Thanks and have a great day!

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BsshBossh · 22/11/2013 10:41

I actually think that losing a substantial amount of weight involves a much greater than usual amount of self-control. The effect is one of obessively starving yourself while surrounded by food... SpiritedWolf but for some of us who have lost large amounts of weight, it hasn't taken alot of effort or deprivation. You can lose, slowly and steadily, alot of weight simply by eating 10-15% less than you usually do and being diligent and patient about it. I never felt deprived doing it that way because the reduction in food wasn't alot.

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YoucancallmeQueenBee · 22/11/2013 09:58

mumlon123 - it is a tough world out there, when you go back to dating. It is a killer, but age has a lot to do with it. No doubt, there will be exceptions to the rule, but IMO you get more invisible as you get older. I'm attractive & in good order (so to speak), but I'm not as good as someone 10/15 years younger than me. The pool of men likely to be interested diminishes.

However, all that depressing stuff said & done - the most important thing is that you feel good about you, not to attract anyone else, but just so you feel happy being you. Feeling good about yourself shouldn't depend on what size you are - but for some people it does. I have a clothing size that when I go above it, I start to feel less good about myself (and I'm not talking a size 8 here!). Regardless of what others may believe, I know I eat when I'm bored or a bit depressed but when I'm angry I don't feel hungry, so I try and harness a bit of anger to motivate myself to do a bit more exercise & cut down on the cake.

You are going through a lot right now, give yourself time to adjust & try and do things for yourself.

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ToTheTeeth · 22/11/2013 09:56

And I wish people who think not dating fat people makes someone "horrible" would STFU. It's perfectly rational, let alone instinctive, not to find very fat people attractive. The problem is not with us.

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Spiritedwolf · 22/11/2013 09:46

Sounds like being larger might help to sift out all the unpleasant blokes who only date those under a certain size. Wink

mumlon as evidenced by this thread, people are very opinionated about bodies like yours and mine. Probably this means there are some people who wouldn't be interested in dating you, but there are lots of others who would be. The problem is your confidence if someone is telling you you are beautiful and you don't believe them. Even if you lost the weight overnight (unfortunately I'm still waiting for this to happen :) ), you have to have the self esteem to accept that other people can find you attractive (which I'm sure they do and will!).

Losing weight won't make you happy, but being happy might help you take good care of yourself, which may have a side effect of weight loss.

I really wish that people who express disgust and contempt for people with larger bodies would STFU. Because even if they are right about the basics (eat less, move more) - it just isn't as simple as that (Diets don't work, for instance, and I'm not just talking about crash diets, I'm also talking about lifestyle changey programmes like WW, they have a very low success rate for long term weight loss* ) and their words do more damage than good. In order to make positive, difficult changes in your life, you need to feel worthy of them, fat shaming doesn't achieve that. If fat shaming worked, we'd all be slim. Be very careful when you tell someone to diet because diets can cause long term weight gain - the message to a body already predisposed to keeping good stores of fat is that it is living in a feast/famine environment, so the drive to overeat to have better supplies in case of future famine is increased.

Losing weight for someone who with a BMI over 40, is not the same as for someone who 'over indulged' over the festive period and wants to lose a little weight before getting into their swimwear for their summer holiday. You really can't extrapolate from the latter and apply it to the former.

The recieved wisdom is that dieting/lifestyle changes require normal levels of self control, and so if someone has fat then they must be lacking in self control (as we've heard already on the thread). I disagree. I think that people who have excess fat probably have normal levels of self control, the same levels as the people who are of a normal weight but who don't need to 'work at' staying that weight. I.e. most of their eating habits are on autopilot, they don't think too much about it, they go by their appetite, the habits they learnt whilst growing up in terms of portion size, finishing whats on their plate, what they eat etc. they are probably influenced by advertising to a greater or lesser extent, and certain things like appetite etc are affected by genetics and epigentics. The difference is that the "norm" for the person who has fat, is set at a higher level of calorie intake.

I actually think that losing a substantial amount of weight involves a much greater than usual amount of self-control. The effect is one of obessively starving yourself while surrounded by food, just the same as someone who suffers from anorexia, the difference is the starting weight and that society cheers on the person who started at a high BMI (unfortunately elements of it can also cheer on inappropriate weight loss too). You are bringing under conscious control something which is normally on auto-pilot (to a much greater extent than someone trying to maintain a 'healthy' weight, or trying to lose a small amount).

I lost 6 stone. I was an absolute bore at the time, I can tell you. It was all I was focussed on, all I thought or talked about. I then got pregnant (which was brilliant, my main aim in losing weight was to get healthy so I could get pregnant, either naturally or with help), which put a hold on my weight loss, and whilst I managed to keep my pregnancy gain down (had lost weight overall after the birth), my DS is a year old and I've put on weight again (maybe a stone or so over my post loss, pre-pregnancy weight). I think I put the weight back on because my eating was no longer my absolute focus, (being a mum was) my body had put it back on auto-pilot, and returned to the over-eating habits that made me large in the first place.

I would need to lose 7 stone or so to get down to a healthy BMI. I do want to do it (or at least get down to having a BMI under 30 so I can lose the obese label) but its a flipping headfuck trying to figure out how to do it sustainbly so I don't put it back on (and then some). There just isn't a proven, effective method of doing it.

*I know what you are thinking, that those who fail to sustain WW/SW/any diet weight loss aren't doing it right, they've fallen off the programme. True. But what you have to ask yourself instead of blaming it on some personal failing of people who have fat, is that what is it about these programmes that the vast majority of people who do them cannot stick with them. As much as many of them claim to be 'not a diet, a new lifestyle,' etc, they just arent sustainable over the long term, people do stop them.

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VelvetSpoon · 22/11/2013 08:47

BIf you've been unhappy for a long time, food becomes a comfort. My Ex used to tell me I was fat and ugly...food was my friend. I'd eat, and it hurt less. It's hard to change that kind of thinking overnight however motivated you may be to lose weight.

I am still 2.5 stone away from what BMI calls a 'healthy' weight, hence I don't tend to tell people what I weigh (it's a lot more than my appearance and dress size would suggest)

Attractiveness in general is based on many things, not just looks. BUT OD encourages you to judge purely on appearance, make snap judgments and set unrealistic criteria. If you met someone in a pub, or party, or through work, he wouldn't instantly think 'oh they're not a perfect size 10' unless he was unbelievably shallow. But OD encourages those judgments, for people to fixate on an ideal...when in real life, you meet people and attraction is based on so much more than appearance.

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Ledkr · 22/11/2013 08:37

Would you lose weight on that though something ?

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something2say · 22/11/2013 08:13

I really recommend a whole food diet. With treats!!! This means no white anything, potatoes, rice, pasta.

We eat muesli for breakfast, eggs on whole grain at the weekend, with maybe avocado and tomatoes.

We have apples and or almonds as a mid morning snack.

We have some of the leftover tea from last night for lunch, and again a snack in the afternoon.

At night, we tend to eat veg done in a pan so no loss of vitamins, with fish and either sweet potatoes, brown rice, quinoa or a lentil dish.

I find that this is tasty and filling. I don't get hungry, that is wrong. I then think, oh well I've been really good so I can get three bags of crisps for a treat, and the I really notice that they feel shit in my belly when I hae eaten them.

And this is how long term change gets made. Noticing the difference.

I found pmt massively seriously reduced as well as a result of this diet. I am not overweight but do work out and the muscles now show thro the small layer of fat and that is very pleasing for me at 39.

Good luck x don't think about it, just do it. This is how healthy people live xxx be one xxx

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arsenaltilidie · 22/11/2013 02:57

OP how about putting dating aside and concetrate on losing weight.
That's at least one burden out of the way.

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payhisdebt · 22/11/2013 01:31

I've recently gone from 13 stone to 9 stone in a few months and have gone from invisible to men to fighting em off.

I did it by acquainting myself with hunger and not eating at all between meals . I trained my appetite to expect less and freed myself from obsessing about food. I feel like I have been released from a lifelong prison.

all diets fail long term because they reinforce the fat mentality, ie to be obsessed with food so they are not sustainable .


I have trained myself to not consider food so important .

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sandfrog · 22/11/2013 00:16

OP, the right person for you will like you just as you are. People of all kinds of appearances find partners and so will you. Just be yourself and then you'll find people who like the real you.

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Darkesteyes · 22/11/2013 00:12

velvet the lowest i can get down to is a 12/14 and i weigh just over 12 stone at that size but am an hourglass with a small waist but big boobs and bum. OD is one thing i will NEVER do after the threads i have read on here.

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BillyBanter · 22/11/2013 00:11

weight is only one aspect of our attractiveness. All the different aspects are mixed together in differing amounts to make the whole 'attractiveness score'. Being more or less happy and smiley and laughy, feeling more or less attractive, lack of self-esteem versus feelings of self-worth, more or less pretty face more open and friendly versus grumpy and quiet etc. All of these things affect the size of the pool of available and interested parties.

If we were to control for all other factors being overweight would make you less attractive in this society at this time than not being overweight.

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Darkesteyes · 22/11/2013 00:08

YY Velvet OMG i wish MN had a "like" button so i could press it for your post Ive never OD but ive certainly read enough about it on threads on here and it certainly could be an eating disorder trigger IMO.

Re. your first paragraph ....we have got "em round here. An extremely overweight cab driver has often said to me how much better i look now ive lost weight, its so good that you are losing weight , women look so much better when they are slimmer blah blah blah....ad infinitum Hmm

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VelvetSpoon · 21/11/2013 23:50

I think the growth in popularity of OD has caused a sweetshop mentality among men (and women) where they feel there is so much choice they can be entirely arbitrary in a way they never would be in real life...I have seen many men stating 'nothing above a size 12' ....I went on a date with one such bloke last year. He was (and remains) very overweight, more than 6st at a guess. Yet he felt entitled to judge women for their size!

I am a size 12-14. Men I know outside of OD think I am gorgeous, have a great figure, and that any man would be lucky to be my boyfriend! In the OD world however I struggled to get beyond 1 date, at least in part because I'm not a sz 10. I do think a lot of it is the OD environment, and the behaviours it encourages, rather than that the OP is too fat to date or attract a man. My advice would be ditch the OD, because all it will do is fuck up her self confidence yet further (I did it for years and now have far more issues than I ever did before!). Anyone who says OD is good for self-confidence clearly hasn't done much of it!!

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Darkesteyes · 21/11/2013 23:42

Great post Anita.

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TreaterAnita · 21/11/2013 23:32

Gone off at a bit if a tangent hasn't it, great job of frightening the OP (who was looking for some advice I believe) away.

If you're still reading mumion I completely agree with the posters who say that your issue is not size but confidence. Yes, you probably do have a smaller pool to fish from, dating wise, if you're not slim as for many men that's something on their wish list, just because of societal norms I guess. But then your wish list might include, I dunno, a full head of hair, and then you chat with someone on line, love his personality and despite the fact that he's bald as a coot he's got twinkly eyes and a winning smile and you are really attracted to him. Imagine if he then refused to believe that you fancied him because he had no hair. You'd think he was being ridiculous.

Also, IME, weight loss is easier when you're fulfilled and happy in yourself. I don't know how old your kids are, but it sounds entirely possible that a shit marriage, rather than reproduction, was the cause if your weight gain. And what makes you feel good can also help you to lose weight. I know that you've got kids to look after as a SP which can make taking time for yourself difficult, but you have a few hours when they're in bed if they're little, and teens can look after themselves some of the time, and contact time with dad (if that happens, don't want to presume). I always find that if I have a bit if time to focus on myself, things like exercise classes (or DVDs), baths, moisturising, that sort of thing, it both replaces any comfort eating but also makes me a lot more focused on my physical body and less likely to eat crap. I basically lose weight when I'm either stressed as hell or so chilled that I can focus on me. It's the middle, prioritising everything else bits of life, that lead me to put on weight as I'm not really that bothered about myself.

I don't think you have to lose weight to be attractive to men by the way, but I think if you prioritise yourself a bit more that might happen anyway, and even if it didn't, your confidence would be boosted and you wouldn't ignore the next guy who says that he actually does fancy you.

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