He can't love me can he? Gutted at the realization that I have to finish it

[CaffeineBomb13]

Yes I've posted about him already but please bare with me because I'm absolutely gutted here. I've never felt so strongly about anyone before and I've tried to push the obvious out of my head and ignore it but I know I have to finish it before he drives me insane and wrecks my career and everything else.

So we've been together just over 6 months. In that time he has blown hot and cold on me, joined a dating site and messaged numerous women asking for meet ups, went to a festival and lied about having spent it with a group of teenage (18/19 year old) girls sharing tents and smoking pot together etc. He lied to my face when I caught him out with the dating sites, finally admitted it but said he didn't know if he was ready for a long term relationship with me - something he'd told me he wanted for the whole 6 months we've been together. He somehow managed to talk me around and convince me that it WAS a long term relationship he wanted - first few weeks after were great and then the hot/cold shit started up again. Any excuse to throw doubt at me and make me paranoid and self concious, don't know if he does it on purpose or what but he manages to make me constantly question whether I'm about to be dumped and it drives me insane.

I know he feels that he's superior to me. He won't let me meet his kids despite being fully involved in my children's lives (yes a mistake on my part, I get it) and for the past couple of days has turned away from me when I go to kiss him or hug him yet he tells me everything is fine.

He tells me he loves me but he can't do can he? you wouldn't treat someone like this if you loved them. Last night my son got him to fix up a bike that he didn't bother using this morning - I can understand him being pissed off about wasting his time but how has he reacted? by snapping at me this morning and ignoring me all day since.

I know for my own sanity I have to finish it but despite everything I do love him and I don't know why. Why have I ended up loving such a headfuck?

Also, any tips on going cold turkey? I'm going to miss him.

[LineRunner]

I think he is your first proper boyfriend, right?

Make sure he's the last one that is a knobber. Please. Dump and move on and think more about yourself.

[Sunnywithshowers]

LTB. And as others have said, please stop posting endless threads.

[OneMoreGo]

Pleeeeeease stop posting on different threads! It is doing my head in. I read the OP and then slowly the realization dawns - that it's you. Again. Have reported your other one today to MN because it's getting daft now.

[dequoisagitil]

You don't love him, it is pure adrenalin & mind-fuckery. You got into this because your narc mother trained you to have no self-esteem & expect shit treatment.

Time to step away from the merry-go-round, have therapy and reset your boundaries.

[izzyizin]

No he doesn't

Yes you do

The End.

Following on from the gospel according to AF, the book of izzyin has it that

Lo, there was a plague upon the land his belly, and the harpies of mumsnet OP sayeth unto him fuck off taketh thou pox ridden body and cleanse it in the waters of the red or dead sea and do not darkeneth the door of my adobe again Jose for thou art deceased to me.

And he fucketh off went and cameth not back for fear of getting another toe up his arse being turneth into the piece of piss pillar of salt he ith.

The End


He invents problems for his kids too? O yeah? Given that you haven't met them, you know this how?

[ThereGoesTheYear]

He sounds utterly vile. He's filling a space in your life that he doesn't deserve. I'd advise you to get rid of him, get some therapy, and when you've figured out why you settled for so little, you'll have room in your life for a partner who actually enhances your life.

[PatriciaHolm]

What do you want people to say that hasn't been said many times before, and you have ignored? What will make any difference?

[LengLogs]

As I said on OP's other thread she has running today, I'm starting to doubt he is the problem. I think it is the OP tbh.

You sound exhausting. If your constant threads are anything to go by, he's probably getting fed up with the constant reassuring and neediness.

It's only been six months, you are too intense.

[kateissotired]

It has only been six months, I do not want to take the attachment away but think about how you were six months ago, I bet you felt much stronger than this and you can feel that again. Take some power back, for you and you child. This means you can own your own feelings again and have some autonomy in your own life which is good for you and incredibly healthy for your child. You can do this, and more importantly, should do this.

[DragonMamma]

Why does this sound very familiar? Is this the woman who posted obsessively about the Facebook tagging thing?

Either way, having read your other posts I would say you seriously need to LTB. You've wasted at least 5 months out of those 6. Nobody should take up this much headspace.

And when you've got rid I would seriously consider some counselling for whatever issues have led you to cling on to such a waster and post endlessly online, not listening to an iota of great advice you're given

[aleene]

This relationship sounds exhausing, disrespectful (to you and most likely your children) and unhealthy.

You will feel SO MUCH BETTER when it is over.

What are you going to do?

If you carry on with it, you have to face the possibility that you are somehow addicted to the drama that this kind of relationship brings. IMO.

[springyhope]

He's a complete and utter wanker, a total headfuck, end to end.

Genuinely, what do you want to hear from posters? You are addicted yet want to talk about it, endlessly. If you have no regard for yourself then I suppose ok, but what about your children? You can have no notion at all of the horrific damage relationships like this do to kids. I've spend Ks on therapy and will probably spend Ks more because of being exposed to a shit relationship when I was growing up. The pain in my life has been monumental, I have to work extremely hard sometimes just to keep my head above water. Do you want that for your kids? Make no mistake , this is what will happen to them. It's not russian roulette, it's a given: they repeat the patterns.

But you are experiencing the agony and dysfunction of a disordered childhood and are hopelessly caught in a truly gruesome net with a cruel and spiteful shit, whom you insist you 'love'. He is pressing all your damaged buttons and you're probably hoping that 'this time', you'll get the love you should have had when you were a kid. You're not going to get it 'this time', he is not going to change, he will become more and more cruel - unbelievably cruel, nothing will stop him, he will use anything.

Do you want this sad, sorry life for your kids?

You have to do the work. It's a lot of work and it takes a long time, but it's worth it. If you don't do the work you will continue to welcome shits like this into your life, further damaging your kids. Have a look at codependence and look for a group near you. Do the Freedom Programme , read the books - all the books, Women Who Love Too Much, Why Does He Do That? by Lundy Bancroft.

You have to put the work in, you won't magically get free.

[something2say]

My best advice to you is to live up, at this very moment.

What I mean by 'live up' it to look up to the greatest wisest woman you have ever conceived and ask her about her ability to see what is true, and her trust that more of life comes along when we let go, in fact especially when we let go.

I think you need to let him go and accept that he isn't for you, quickly simply and completely. Gather your cloak about you and start again elsewhere. There is always another man my dear x Look in your heart and then act on it and don't ask questions.

[expatinscotland]

I seriously feel for your kids, too. You need to move on and take a long break from dating and relationships to work on yourself, your self-esteem, your relationship with your kids instead of picking another wanker.

[expatinscotland]

He doesn't love you. That's how it goes sometimes. You need to move on.

[Allthenamesiwantaretaken]

Nothing left to be said. He is a total dick and a total drain on your life. Rather than bleating on about him (meant in the nicest possible way) you need to take action, this will make you feel stronger straight away. I can really recomend the valenswines recovery plan, www.valenswines.com which is a 90 day plan designed to get you over someone and feeling good about yourself again.

[AnyFucker]

No he doesn't

Yes you do

The End.

[TheProvincialLady]

An adult chooses NOT to allow pot head, 18 year old girl chasing losers into their children's lives. Never mind your so called relationship with this tosser, have a good think about why you have done that and are continuing to do so.

[Absoluteeightiesgirl]

I've never felt so strongly about anyone before
Are you serious? Really?
I dont believe you love him. Bin it. Get some professional help.
I echo the above poster and re-read everything you have written. Do you want to bring someone like this into the lives of your kids let alone your life?

[DrGoogleWillSeeYouNow]

You've posted a ridiculous number of threads about this wanker and received the same advice over and over again.

He doesn't love you.

Scrape up the remainder of your self esteem and get rid of him.

And then invest in some counselling for yourself, to discover why you've not only put up with this shit. While you're at it, have a think about why you've persistently ignored the good, solid, consistent advice you've been given repeatedly on here.

[kateissotired]

I think that you should ask yourself if you love him, as this is the main consideration here. You are holding onto the nice version of him at the start of a relationship, but now he is losing interest and being cruel in the process. You might be changing to a way that is accomodating him but in doing this are changing from the person that you are which ruins your self respect and self esteem. The nice him has now gone and the person who has replaced him is not good for you or your child to be around. By all means mourn for what might have been, but end the relationship, focus on you again, put yourself at the top of your own list and maybe set some personal goals (5k run, new course etc) and in doing this you will become stronger and get some self worth back. He is eroding your confidence and making you profoundly upset. It is hard to cut contact but put yourself in 4 months or 4 years time, if you are still with this man, you will still be upset. it is hard, but have faith that you are worth more.

[sparklyjumper]

Just read your first thread and my gosh you could be writing about my ex, the questioning the entire 'relationship' over one small thing. Which then results in you being on tenderhooks wondering if it's over or not or if they're going to be in a mood or not or giving you the silent treatment.

I don't want to hyjack your thread but I could give you so many examples of similiar behaviour and it's really just not worth your sanity. Just get out now before he gets worse and you get more attached.

[sparklyjumper]

Hi op, was reading this and I just had to reply. Because you sound like me.

I haven't read your other threads will later when I've got more time.

It was just over a year in when I realised my ex was a dickhead, but at first it was 'little' things and I made excuses and papered over the cracks. But almost four years on I'm still on the merry go round and it's a lot harder to get off after all that time and I would hate for anyone else to end up feeling like I have.

A few things jumped out at me, the way your boyfriend has got so involved in your life but hasn't allowed you to get involved in his, the way he 'gaslights' which is something new I've learnt but something my ex did all the time, the way you say he gets obsessed with focusing on any little negative he can find, does it almost drag you down and make you feel awful about things that you don't even see as an issue? The way you are creating multiple posts and giving loads of examples of things he does as though you're almost hoping someone will see one bit of good in him, or tell you what's wrong with him so that maybe you can 'fix' him. The hot and cold, the dating sites, making you wonder if you're actually going mad.

And I agree with what Folkgirl says, no matter how many people say you need to end it, and 'he doesn't love you' which hurts, you know the nice bits, the nice little words and actions which are the ones that make you hang on. And I'm sure you're very confused because when you first met he made a load of promises and treated you wonderfully, so you're waiting for that nice man to come back. But do you really want to be still waiting in 4 years time?

It doesn't even matter whether he 'loves' you or not, maybe he does, maybe he doesn't, maybe he's not capable of real love, but it's certainly not the type of love anyone would want. You can't fix him and mould him into the man you want him to be and the more you try you will only end up tearing yourself to pieces and even making yourself ill.

[DogEgg]

Picture the future - you're at home with your son when this man comes home drunk and "louder". He starts on at your little lad with "a bucket of emotion." Your son is distracted by the TV or his toys and this man lunges at him snarling "I hope you're bloody listening."

What do you then OP?

Your son is cowering scared and this man is standing over you both angry and terrifying. He feels superior to you, he has no respect for you and knows he can treat you as badly as he likes and you lie back and take it.

You won't be able to do anything then. But you can now.

[VoiceofUnreason]

^This