entrance exams grammer schools

[whathappened]

Hi, sorry if this is in wrong place.I am a lurker and this is my first post.just after some advise really,does anyone know what sats grades your child should be getting to have a realistic chance of getting into grammer.dd is in year 5 and is probably the only one not being tutored although is getting grade 4, which is sort of middle for her class.My dd comes home from school often telling me other kids tell her she must be tutored to have a chance.I am new to all this and not sure where to turn for advise,
thank you

[Swedey]

I hope those of you criticising the OP's grammar understand the irony of the nature of the post. Here is a woman asking for help to get her child into a grammar school so she might be in with a chance of being properly educated.

It is so petty.

Op - call the school and ask for sample past papers. So that your Dd can familiarise herself with the types of questions.

[HerbalHolly]

I would strongly advise looking at some recent past papers. When I sat mine (many moons ago) I was familiar with the style of the questions and it was fine. There were other kids who were equally able who hadn't seen any past papers and they failed because the style of the paper was quite odd.

Some parents of friends of mine put their child through tutoring because most of the other children sitting the exam in that area were having tutoring so (in their opinion) the standards were raised. They felt that to not send their child to extra classes was to put them at a disadvantage.

So maybe find out what others are doing...

[smee]

Petty or patronising or maybe a bit of both. Ignore them OP, they're tedious.

[Hullygully]

Would second that the most important thing to do first is discuss with her teacher and the head what school might suit her.

[domesticextremist]

Nonsuch is a very pressurised environment OP and tbh I doubt whether a dd could get in without some tutoring unless she was already at a prep school that tutored for the 11+ like Seaton House.

It will make a difference if you live close-by but not that much.

have you had a look at some of the other schools? Are you catholic -any chance of St Phils?

Btw am not saying she shouldnt try - of course she should if you both want to.

[janinlondon]

Nonsuch is oversubscribed 5 to 1 and is one of the most hotly contested schools in the country. I am sure some girls do get in without official tutoring or prep school experience, but I would have to guess they are in a very small minority.

[sugartits]

I don't know Nonsuch, but my dd passed the exam for a top ten grammar school with, as I said earlier a few weeks of looking at papers with me at home. DD is bright, but not the top of her class by any means so I wouldn't be put off.

[whathappened]

Thank you for all the lovely posts back.you have really helped me.Please dont worry about me being offended by the comments about my spelling,Swedey,you are right.i did not do that well at school and just want to give my child a better chance than i had.Thank you again to all your kinds words.

[Hullygully]

Good luck.

[hbfac]

Lots of luck.