Does the ks1 level 3 have a level cap?

[IsotopeMe]

As in, does it only test up to a certain level? And if so, anyone know what it is?

Thanks.

[EeTraceyluv]

perhaps it was just her teacher putting it? I will find out tonight at the open evening anyway.

[lostintoys]

We were told that the test doesn't go above 3c. And we were given both rest results and teacher assessment for each subject. Very confusing.

[MrsMelons]

Wow!!

[EeTraceyluv]

Thank you She is deaf too so doubly proud.

[MrsMelons]

I see, thanks

[MrsMelons]

You should be - all 3a's is amazing!

[Feenie]

But the test papers are a small piece of evidence contributing to the teacher assessment. So the 3 in a test is also contributing to the teacher assessment 3 which is being reported.

[mrz]

The tests aren't the level reported they are only used to support teacher assessment (one piece of evidence over the year)

[EeTraceyluv]

Ah well! Suffice to say am very proud of her - however they did it

[MrsMelons]

Yes I know that but I thought the test paper results only reported a L3 or 2c,b,c, not the sub levels for L3 IYSWIM. If DS got 100% right then would that make a 3a?

[Feenie]

The SATs are teacher assessment.

[MrsMelons]

You can't get 3as in SATs but can get 3a in teacher assessments (I think)

[Feenie]

Because the school will probably have recorded a sub level internally, and decided they might as well report that too. But they don't have to.

[Feenie]

Some schools may choose to report what sort of level 3 it is, but as mrz they only legally have to do that with level 2.

It's difficult to comment without knowing why the school are saying your dc hasn't made the expected progress, OP.

[EeTraceyluv]

I had better ask why they gave her the sub levels then

[mrz]

Sub levels don't technically exist in the National Curriculum and at KS1 schools report level 1, 2c, 2b, 2a or 3 (no sub levels for level 1 or level 3)

[EeTraceyluv]

I will start again My dd got all level 3a's in year 2 SATS. What does that mean?

[EeTraceyluv]

well dd was given the 3 level 3cs so there must be sublevels

[MrsMelons]

Yes I have been frustrated, in particular with literacy, the school situation sounds so similar, their SATs results have been the best ever this year.

Is it a primary school so your DC will be there next year too?

[IsotopeMe]

Mrs melons, I can sense your frustration through your posts and I can sympathise as we are currently experiencing something similar, hence the op.

feenie, if a child is significantly above the rest of the class in one area, yet their report/score shows that they have not made the expected progress in that area (despite them being gifted in that area), where would you go from there? The teacher in question was given a target to get the bulk of the class to a certain level, which they have. Great results overall, the best in years. And yet you have a student who it seems has been left to coast, has not made expected two sub levels progress, the head is making excuses, the child was not identified at pupil progress meetings as not going to meet target...basically it has been a waste of a year. We are really angry but have no idea where to go from here??

[MrsMelons]

Thanks Feenie, I feel pretty bad about it as I left it and left it hoping things would get better as they had a lot of disruption to the management and staff etc and then I seemed to leave it a bit late. Until this year they have been brilliant but admitted to me they hadn't had a child at that level before and didn't have the reading level required but would buy some ( but didn't)

He leaves in 2 weeks as it is a stand alone infant school, we are really pleased as he has been awarded an academic scholarship at a local independent school for juniors who have promised this will not happen there.

[Feenie]

That's outrageous. I would be asking questions about their responsibility to ensure that he is allowed to progress. If you like I can point you in the direction of the legal document which shows level 3 should not be a ceiling.

[MrsMelons]

Well we now know it's not true that they cannot give any higher! His previous teacher had said he would get a 3a/4c but she left and amazingly then we were told the highest was 3b as they won't have covered the curriculum so he spent 18 months covering the same thing.

[Lemonytrees]

This is interesting - MrsMelons, my DS also got 100% on the level 3 sats, but hasn't been tested further. I was also given the indication that he couldn't get more than a 3b - but not yet had a report to confirm. I agree - it's a shame he's not been given the same opportunities that others have

[MrsMelons]

I know it doesn't really matter as he will do whatever he is able to at KS2 but just feel it is a shame for him as he hasn't had the opportunities other children have had even though the school have said he is capable of more etc. I would understand more if they have said he wasn't capable of progressing further but they have said its the limitations of KS1 rather than the limitations of his ability.