Moving to north wales with 2 children, no welsh

[Evbev]

Hi there, just wondering where to start. we are moving from ireland to the gwyned area and don't know where to start! No welsh whatsoever. Where is a good place to live there? We need good facilities such as tennis and shops within walking distance for our children.

[allowlsthinkalot]

All schools will be Welsh medium there. But your LO will be fine. Plenty start with no Welsh and they are fluent very quickly.

[Marina17]

Hi,
I live in Porthmadog at the moment and thinking to move with 14 months old bb in Caernarfon or Bangor are. None of us is welsh speaking
Any areas to sugest pls???

[hippo123]

Ysgol Friars would be her only option really for a levels in English medium. It's a good school though, based in Bangor. Easy to get to on the bus. Or coleg menai does a wide range of courses including a levels, mainly based in Bangor and mainly though English. It's never to late to learn a second language and to be honest living in Caernarfon she may pick it up quite quickly especially if her dad speaks welsh. There's a load of courses she could go on if she wished to learn the language.

[jadekeenan3]

Hey, does anybody know good English-medium secondary schools? She is wanting to go sixthform in North Wales (She wants to live with her dad, previously lived with her mum in London). As she is 16 would it be too late for her to learn welsh as she knows none? She will live in Caernarfon and as far as I know Gwynedd doesnt have any, can anybody recommend any schools? Thanks.

[Evbev]

thanks Fairyegg and Cyrli
the kids are 9 and 12. Cyrli.

[Cyrli]

How old are the children and would you like them to be able to speak Welsh? Most parents with children in Welsh medium schools in Wales can't speak welsh. I live in Gwynedd if you want to ask about anywhere in particular.

[Fairyegg]

Glasinfryn is nice evbev, lovely cycle track nearby, easy access to A55, not to far from Bangor. In catchment area for frairs secondary school and you would get a wide choice of primary schools to pick from. Not anything there in terms of a shop though I don't think. Caerhun and Minfordd are also nice and nearby and probably a bit cheaper than Bangor but not to far away either (hippo 123 in disguise).

[Evbev]

Would anyone know anything about Glasinfryn? Would it be a nice place to live? thinking it might be cheaper than Bangor.

[Evbev]

Thankyou MisForMumNotMaid!
What is the name of the school?

[MisForMumNotMaid]

Our local secondary in Denbighshire is bilingual with three streams for education. Welsh, bilingual or English. So if you pick Welsh all topics (except. English! Are through the medium of Welsh). If you pick English they're all through English except Welsh and billingual you have a welsh tutor and lessons are a mix.

Its sort of like three 'houses' so you are core educated with your house but then sports and assemblies are with all.

[highlandbird]

I really don't know sorry, that's just my experience from school on Anglesey, everyone did mix outside of class though, and in pe, assembly etc.
Sorry not to be of more help!

[Evbev]

thanks highlandbird, acutally my son is 12 so secondary is relevant too. Are ALL secondary schools divided into welsh first language, welsh second language and welsh learners? Or is it just Anglesey?

[highlandbird]

Sorry just realised after posting that thread was in primary education....so info on secondary schools was irrelevant really! There are some fantastic village primary schools on Anglesey but it would maybe take a while to settle in to a welsh medium primary school as literally everything is taught through welsh in the classroom (well it was when I was at school anyway!), slightly different in secondary as classes were divided into welsh first language, welsh second language and welsh learners.

[highlandbird]

I'm from Anglesey originally, i don't know if you're considering that area, there are some lovely villages on the island but I would (personally) give Llangefni, Holyhead and Amlwch a wide berth! All my schooling was done through welsh (except English!) and there were some children whose parents didn't speak any welsh, some that had moved from other areas, never seemed a big deal we just spoke English with those friends and their families. I haven't lived there for 9 years but from what I remember Menai bridge seemed to have a lot more English (first language) speakers, and there is a secondary school there that had a decent reputation at that time. I went to Llangefni secondary school, was very rough and not a very good school IMO but again, that was a few years ago and it might have changed a lot since then!
I have family in the Llandudno and Conwy area and they seem to speak a lot more English day to day than we did on Anglesey, even though welsh is their first language. I'm sure your children will pick it up quickly but I wouldn't worry too much if you don't, so many people have moved into the area from elsewhere I really don't think it's so much of a big deal these days.
Good luck!

[hippo123]

I'm near Caernarfon. All schools in Gwynedd are welsh medium, although some have more English speaking kids in than welsh. My ds is in year 1 and has been totally fluent since half way though reception despite English parents. The schools here are excellent. How old are your dc? feel free to pm me and I can give you a lowdown on the Caernarfon / Bangor / south Anglesey areas.

[Tiggles]

Because they are in Wales, so the places have Welsh names.
Although to be fair it would be easier to distinguish them if they were school rather than ysgol.

[sashh]

OK I have nothing to add to the discussion but I have a question. Why don't the English medium schools have English names?

[Naoko]

Oh and remember Bangor is a student town - a massive part of the population is not Welsh, so as non-Welsh parents you would not stand out.

[Naoko]

Hi op, I'm in Bangor which is a good place to live. Conwy and llandudno are nice too, don't move to rhyl though, it's a bit grim. On the other side of the strait, Menai bridge is really lovely. I don't have DC so can't help with schools but I havea number of friends who moved here as children and they all say they learned Welsh fast and without trouble in school so don't worry too much. It is a fairly strongly Welsh speaking area in that you'll hear it in shops and in the street, and plenty of people are first language Welsh speaking, but I can't speak Welsh beyond the very basics and in the 9 years I've been here it's never been a problem. Feel free to pm me if you need some local knowledge on Bangor :)

[learnandsay]

Personally I don't think that the problem is for the children; children pick up languages easily. I think it's the parents who struggle.

[prh47bridge]

According to the council all primary schools in Gwynedd are bilingual with the majority of the teaching in Welsh. There are no English only or Welsh only primary schools. In at least some schools the only subject taught in English is English! Welsh is the official language for end of key stage assessments. Your children will spend their first term after moving to Wales at a language centre, receiving an intensive course in Welsh before returning to their own school.

[MisForMumNotMaid]

I'm in Denbighshire, with recent Irish neighbours, its a real mix here some Welsh medium, some bilingual (its what my children do) someEnglish with a smattering of Welsh.

I'm English first language with a smattering that i've learnt as an adult.

Schools fall into language categories and you can see which category they are on their Estyn report (Welsh ofsted equivalent) see hear Estyn

I have afour bed fully renovated detached house with a stream/ river and waterfall inthe garden for salefor £290,000 to giveyoua feeling for prices round here.

[citygirl5151]

Oh and Blessed William Davies is a lovely little English medium primary school. It is RC but you don't have to be Catholic to attend - very small and friendly it is :))

[KandyBarr]

Yes, agree with citygirl - Conwy and Llandudno schools are more likely to have a mix of English and Welsh first-language speakers