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Consequences for doing miserably on Maths Assessment (9 yr old)?

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mumintroll · 27/06/2011 18:22

My 9-yr old is bright and has no problems with maths - in the autumn she got the best score in the maths assessments. This term she did miserably on the assessment - in large part because she did not really revise (even her teacher noticed this and pointed it out). I tried to nag her into revising more, but she is reaching a pre-teen independence phase where she resents being micro-managed.

She does genuinely feel bad about her results - and maybe this is enough to get her to apply herself next time. But I can't help but wonder if we should also make there be some more tangible consequences - such as removing some privilege? Anyone have experience with this?

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seeker · 27/06/2011 21:29

Shurely shome mishtake, Indigobell???

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teacherwith2kids · 27/06/2011 22:40

OK, I have a jaded view of Abacus. Or rather, I have a jaded view of any 'maths scheme' from which a teacher teacher 'pre-planned' lessons and the class then does 'pre-set' exercises.

My son is very able at Maths (he could add and subtract negative numbers in reception for example). However, because his school - which I am otherwise happy with - uses a maths scheme, he sits through lesson after lesson in which he leanrs nothing new - because the teacher, even if she is aware of his ability, cannot start the lesson for him at the correct point because it's 'not in the scheme' (I know there is a challenge book - buit the mechanics of teaching wholly separate 'challenge' lessons don't sem to work out).

Equally, most of the exercises are 'reinforcement' for him - but he still has to wade though what seems to me an unreasonable number of repetitive examples before he can get onto the explore questions. And his current teacher is of the 'underline 3 times and write only in boxes' type and so cannot understand how my 'bright but scatty' son is using up almst all of his time doing these repetitive sums but straining every sinew to do them neatly enough to satisfy her.

The half termly tests seem to, in my sons's school at least, replace proper continuous teacher assessment and are taken as 'gospel' .

I compare this to the maths planning I do - from the framework, starting precisely at the right point for each of the groups, with appropriately differentiated activities for each group starting at the right point, with no need for top groups to wade through easier activities, with conitnuous teacher assessment and I grit my teeth VERY hard!

Obviously, there are ways and ways to implement and use a scheme. Used selectively and sensitively, they are probably fine, and they may well be fine for your 'average performer' ... it's just used verbatim for someone who has the capability to be an exceptionally good mathematician if encouraged is a bit grrrrrrrrr

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EllenJaneisnotmyname · 27/06/2011 23:58

Teacherwith2kids, investigate Murderous Maths books. Like Horrible Histories but for maths. My 3 DSs have learnt more from these books than from any maths lesson in primary school, and they are funny! Depends on age but my 8 yo loves them! My DS1 is 13 in y8 and is doing fantastically well in maths, partly due to these books. (Not on commission, btw Grin )

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LauraIngallsWilder · 28/06/2011 00:09

Anyone seen the op recently??

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mumintroll · 28/06/2011 00:16

hahaha ok i guess i deserve the flaming, i probably am overreacting, and i doubt i'll actually carry through on any "consequences". it probably would not have occurred to me except that the last few months she has really been testing limits (back talk, eye rolling, generally sulky when things don't go her way) - almost like I am getting a teenager much earlier than I planned. So I am wondering if I need to be a little firmer/clearer in setting limits.

And yes it's a private school, it was an end of year assessment, she was given plenty of heads up to prepare for it. And it's not the actual assessment grade I care about, it's about teaching her to take these things seriously and to try her hardest. But I agree with those posters who say that any punishment will probably backfire. Probably just the pain/embarassment of doing badly is enough.

And for those of you who think I am generally bonkers, I am relatively relaxed about these things compared to the other mothers at school.....

ok, flame away.....

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MrsShrekTheThird · 28/06/2011 00:19

interesting....
agree with what most of you are already saying.. revision, what's that? Bollocks to private schools and their over-emphasis on twee self important exams (I went to one of these schools for twelve years, am well placed to comment fwiw) don't believe a word of their hype. And consequences? punishment? WTF?
and finally, LauraIW, I forgot to feed my billy goat Wink

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seeker · 28/06/2011 01:34

she has really been testing limits (back talk, eye rolling, generally sulky when things don't go her way)

Not surprised if she;s under that sort of pressure!

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LIZS · 28/06/2011 10:10

Just let her just learn from her disappointment and mistakes, be they common careless errors or due to lack of revision (although there is only so much you can do for maths anyway). dd found things really easy for a long while but in the last year or so has had to apply herself more and deal with distraction.

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