Prenatal Paternity Test

[rgm1988]

I need to have a prenatal paternity test. I have researched the tests that are available and am aware of amniocentesis and chorionic villus sampling as options. However this morning I read that it may be possible to have just blood tests done as there is DNA in the moters blood from week nine. Does anybody know about or have any personal experiences of this. Is it as reliable? How come it's less well known? Etc. Etc.

I live in London… would anyone have any recommendations of who I could speak to. I would be very grateful for any advice.

[Unnerved]

Hmm this sounds a repost from the previous poster who a similar thread but without the added details of the partners issues.

[makingmiracles]

I don't think it matters whether this is the same pp as before or someone else, why do people need to get judgmental and nasty when it's nobodies business why the test is needed.

[gunting]

Making because the person who posted this before was doing the test to please an emotionally abusive partner

[makingmiracles]

Yes I know that, I read that thread also. The point I'm making is that people shouldn't have to justify themselves to a bunch of strangers and explain their reasons for wanting the test.

Yes it may be the same poster, equally it may not be. She didn't ask for opinions for reasons for doing the test, she asked for information about the test.

[CityMole]

There is no concrete evidence as to what % accuracy exists because there is not a wide enough sample population.

I think the best case scenario is that the non invasive test is around 99% accurate. However if that is the case, then 1 ion 100 will be wrong. it I think the big risk when it is wrong is that it will give a false negative (so it will give you an answer which suggests that X is not the father when X actually is the father.) It is not, by definition, a diagnostic test, as it compares a sample with a sample and relies on coincidence of certain markers to assess the likelihood of there being a dna connection- but it is not a perfect science because there may be instances where no coincidental markers are identified within the sample but X is in fact the father. Does that make sense?

My advice remains- if it is important that this is correct then wait till the baby is born. It's not a long time.

If paternity is a deciding factor in perhaps not continuing with the pregnancy, then perhaps cvs/ amnio might be an option, although you will run the risk that you get the result you want, but then having decided to continue with the pregnancy the foetus perishes as a result of the test- you really have to weigh up that risk for yourself.

[makingmiracles]

The way it was explained to us is that yes it's 99% realiable, but the only reason it's not 100% is that unless they tested every male on earth, they cannot say it's 100% I would say from what we were told that false negatives are almost impossible.

The markers are the important thing here, if baby and potential father have markers that are the same its highly likely they have very similar Dna. Therefor a test where baby and fathers markers are Completely different would suggest they have dissimilar Dna/are not related.

[NameChange30]

"why do people need to get judgmental and nasty"

No one has been judgemental or nasty. Not a single person.

The reason we are asking is that if it is the same poster or the same reason, our advice would be very different. In the previous thread, the OP's partner was emotionally abusive and she was advised to recognise that fact and get some support. In her case a paternity test really WASN'T the answer. She knew he was the father, he just didn't believe her

We don't want to criticise the OP, we just want to give appropriate advice.

FWIW it sounds like the non-invasive test is much better than the invasive ones, because it removes the risk to the foetus. But it's a lot of money to spend, hence asking the question about why it's wanted.

[NeedsAsockamnesty]

A lot of the companies offering this are using labs based in America and you may have one hell of a problem finding a practise willing to take the bloods for private collection.

You will find one but not before several have refused.

There is a company using a lab in Canada that only charges £400 and you can pay in instalments but you will have to pay for blood withdrawal and find a clinic to do it yourself afair it can be anything between £10-60.
They post out a kit to you and it does say what it is on shipping label so not especially private.

Several other places that do it all will be between £800-1k some even include antenatal testing to confirm results.

Remember in the UK it is illegal to DNA test a person covertly even if it is possible

[NeedsAsockamnesty]

another

Sometimes people experancing abuse due to many of the methods used may start believing crap the abuser says.

A DNA test on top of getting support for the abuse could well be very helpful especially if the abuser is not funny about spreading his poisen.

[NameChange30]

"especially if the abuser is not funny about spreading his poisen."

I'm sorry but I didn't understand that bit - what did you mean?

[NeedsAsockamnesty]

Lots of people have very close knit friendship groups or small comunities where it can cause quite a lot of harm if someone spreads things like this about.

Unfortunately not everybody in life is kind trustworthy or honorable, and unfortunately gossip about paternity is juicy.

Many people live in worlds where what other people think is important to them.

Of course the ultimate responsibility is to the abuser or the gossips but if it is having a direct impact on the victim then it can be a very useful way of regaining control.

I also have a lot of clients in abusive situations who terminate after seeing a formal document stating a tie with an abuser (even if their was no doubt in them) it's grounding in a way

[NameChange30]

Oh, so you're saying the abuser might spread malicious gossip about the baby not being his? Does this happen often then? I would have thought it unlikely because it could make him look bad, and not just his partner, if people think she's cheated on him... But I suppose he could say it to try and get sympathy and get people on his side.

This is all a bit beside the point of course if this OP isn't in an abusive relationship. In which case sorry for the derail.

[NeedsAsockamnesty]

Making out your ex or partner is a slag when she's pissed you off is often a hobby of abusive types.

And yes it can cause victims to be seriously upset

[NameChange30]

"And yes it can cause victims to be seriously upset."

Well, obviously!

[1fedupmama]

Right I haven't see the op mention anything about abuse she simply asked for advice regarding a paternity test. You lot are jumping to conclusions, wether these conclusions are right or wrong I'm sure op doesn't need to see them.
OP if u can afford the non invasive blood test then I would pick that, if not I would highly recommend waiting until baby is here.
I hope all is well & u & baby are happy & healthy

[NeedsAsockamnesty]

I'm a bit of a fan of prenatal tests.

Sometimes parentage may impact on ability to continue with a pregnancy

[Threesquids]

I would imagine if the issue was medical (i.e impact on pregnancy) then the OP would have been given relevant safe advice on this by their doctor?

[NeedsAsockamnesty]

There are other reasons why paternity could impact on continuing with a pregnancy not just health

[Firsttimemum101101]

Hi everyone. I am freaking out.

I am due October 18th and am starting to have doubts about the baby’s father. He wants a DNA test however I am too embarrassed to tell him I was taken advantage of at a party I went to when we first got together. All of the calculations state the baby was conceived around the 27th January, I went to the party on the 30th. My last period was around the 12th January and my cycle from decembers period to January’s was 31 days. My ovulation app says I ovulated between 22nd-27/28th January. However some other places state it would’ve been the 30th jan. me and my partner were sleeping together daily before and after what happened and when I arrived home after what happened at the party I had bleeding and cramps. I took a test and was negative then took a test on the 8th feb and tested positive. Can anyone help? I don’t know what to do

[pianolessons1]

@Firsttimemum101101

Hi everyone. I am freaking out.

I am due October 18th and am starting to have doubts about the baby’s father. He wants a DNA test however I am too embarrassed to tell him I was taken advantage of at a party I went to when we first got together. All of the calculations state the baby was conceived around the 27th January, I went to the party on the 30th. My last period was around the 12th January and my cycle from decembers period to January’s was 31 days. My ovulation app says I ovulated between 22nd-27/28th January. However some other places state it would’ve been the 30th jan. me and my partner were sleeping together daily before and after what happened and when I arrived home after what happened at the party I had bleeding and cramps. I took a test and was negative then took a test on the 8th feb and tested positive. Can anyone help? I don’t know what to do

You'd be better starting your own thread as this is very old.

[Abm2]

Did you manage to find out

[nik29099]

@makingmiracles hi, I know this is a old post but just wondering how many weeks was you when you got the test? I'm booked to get it done next week but I'll only be 7 weeks from MLP so have a feeling it's going to come inconclusive! x