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Blood boiling after hospital appt today - sorry long one

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babyhmummy01 · 12/07/2013 11:10

Ok, so I arrived in plenty of time for my 0830 apt, there was no one in the waiting room and yet they still managed to be 10 mins late, so I can forgive that, my DBIL is a surgeon so I know they can be called away or in meetings that run over etc, but am called through by a Maternity Assistant (I believe they are just HCA's?) who calls out "Mrs Babyh" it never even registered it was me as I am Ms not Mrs so took a few minutes. I politely corrected her that I am Ms not Mrs and was rudely told "Well we call everyone Mrs here" This has not been my past experience with the hospital as they have either called me by my first name or Ms Babyh so was not a great start. Then the Consultant barely had 2 words to say to me, anaesthetist wasn't available so had to wait for the on call one to be paged - sorry but YOU made the apt so why the heck wasn't he there for my 0830 apt.

He was ok but very strongly insisting and bordering on demanding I had no choice over labour other than an epidural which I REALLY don't want. I explained to him that unless absolutely medically necessary I did not want an epidural as the thought of being out of control, on a bed, unable to move terrifies the life out of me. He reluctantly agreed but due to my asthma and allergy to pain meds I can only have that or Entenox which I said was fine. He listened to my chest and said I could leave the hospital but never gave me my notes back.

I called in at the reception desk to ask how I got my notes back and a different Maternity Assistant to above said she would go and find them for me. Then out of the blue the rude assistant appears and barks at me that I can leave as the Doctor has finished with me and I don't need to be there. I tried to politely (through gritted teeth) tell her that I needed my notes to which I was told "well she has just told you she is getting them" - Queue my blood really starting to boil at this point.

The nice MA came back with my notes and muttered that as discussed with Consultant I was now under MW led care, I explained that nothing of that ilk had been discussed and that the as the anaesthetist was demanding epidural and possibly spinal for a c section if my asthma is still bad when I go into labour then I needed to be consultant led so off she trotted to confirm...am I wrong to be really annoyed and quite upset by this whole debacle?! I am considering writing to the hospital and complaining but not sure if I am taking it too muh to heart...please help

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raqueluchi · 13/07/2013 10:48

I have to agree with Bodicea, I really don´t see any need to correct someone who is doing their job on the Mrs/Ms issue. At my obs appointment every time they call me by my middle name, rather than my first name and I would never dream of correcting them. Saying that it makes someone wonder what else they get wrong on their records because of a minor mistake reading the name when they have so much other more important issues on the records to deal with is ridiculous, to say the least. Pulling someone up on that, however "politely" you did it, could easily come across as being a bit prickly, imo. But that´s purely because I personally see it as such a non-issue. So, as many others have said, the whole "rude attitude" complaint could have been avoided if you had just let it lie and not picked her up on it.

Re. the waiting - a day after being advised to have an epidural at 20 weeks, I had to wait almost 2 and a half hours to actually have the epidural, a wait which felt like eternity, but would never in a million years have dreamt of complaining about it. Obs wards have so many unexpected eventualities and to imagine that someone as important in childbirth such as an anaesthetist would be taken off emergency duties to attend to a walk-in appointment is crazy. This is the NHS we are talking about, yeah, sure we pay for it, but if you don´t want to do the waiting (and 10 mins....really such a problem??) then maybe the NHS is not for you.

However, the mistakes over your MWLC v. CLC I can understand you feeling grieved over. However, to be taken more seriously, I would let drop the other issues and concentrate on what really is important here, ie. your health and that of your baby. The odd person being slightly off-hand with you in the grand scheme of things will be all forgotten about once the baby is born.

Good luck with the rest of your pregnancy and future care.

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Bodicea · 12/07/2013 21:37

Seriously is there really a need to correct someone who calls you mrs instead of ms? For goodness sake she is just doing her job. You were just up for a fight from the start. If you give someone attitude expect it back. If someone corrected me for something like that it would annoy me because seriously who cares as long as you are the patient they are after. you are just pulling them up for the sake of being high and mighty and are not going to get off to a good start.
And ten minute late for appointment does not count as late. Again very picky. As someone else said on here chose your battles and be nicer to the staff that look after you.

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x0gawjus0x · 12/07/2013 20:14

Dont worry id be exactly the same if it was me if not worse than you! I get so angry about everything atm :( x

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rallytog1 · 12/07/2013 19:57

OP, I know this is a stressful time but it's all starting to sound very OTT.

Your pain relief options are unfortunately limited, but you say you're upset because there are no other options - if you read back what you've actually said, there ARE other options but you've just decided you don't fancy them. Plenty of women manage with entenox or hypnobirthing - but you've dismissed these. Were you expecting your hospital to have discovered or invented a whole new childbirth pain relief drug?

FWIW if someone had told me I'd be begging for an epidural I'd have laughed or been horrified - but when it came to it it was the best thing ever. It really does pay not to dismiss any options.

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TarkaTheOtter · 12/07/2013 19:35

I think the problem is that those are the options. Why not keep an open mind about the epidural? If you can manage without, great. Try TENS and entenox first. For lots of women that is sufficient pain relief. I wasn't keen about the epidural in advance but at the point where I asked for it I wouldn't have cared if they asked me to labour on my head - just wanted the pain to go away. I couldn't walk with my epidural but I didn't feel constrained either. I felt very calm and in control. I had sensation but no pain.

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babyhmummy01 · 12/07/2013 19:18

Tarka, no idea. They are the professionals so was hoping they could give me some options to be honest.

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ItsNotATest · 12/07/2013 19:03

I have never seen anyone strapped to a bed in a delivery ward. Or any other ward come to that.

Even prisoners are handcuffed rather than strapped.

This is all a little bit hysterical.

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Chocomama1 · 12/07/2013 18:48

This is pathetic.....there are people dying in the world
Get a grip....

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TarkaTheOtter · 12/07/2013 18:46

baby aside from all the confusion. What was it you were hoping to get out from the appt? You can't have diamorphine/pethedine so surely your options are entenox or epidural (or spinal/GA if you have a cs but then you would be strapped to the bed also). What is it that you were hoping to be offered? I'd make that the basis of your complaint so you actually get something out of it otherwise I'd leave it.

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jinglebellmel · 12/07/2013 18:27

If some of you read the thread you would see that she isn't complaining due to being called Mrs, or the waiting time. If you care enough to comment then at least read the OP even if you can't be bothered to read all of the subsequent comments!

The use of 'just a HCA' was unfortunate but has been apologised for and even if she did offend the HCA, that person is a professional who should be giving the best care they can regardless of whether they have been a bit offended - if you want to play tit for tat rudeness then go and work somewhere away from people where it doesn't matter, not in a hospital. Yes we are all human and react but I imagine there are nurses and HCA's reading this who know that they give all their patients the best care they can and treat them with respect, even if they are rude!

People are calling the OP rude and abrasive but actually are coming across that way themselves in my opinion. Complaints aren't just about the more serious neglect cases and I would hope that CQC are intelligent enough to prioritise their workload rather than 'set aside' serious issues of sub standard care.

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SauvignonBlanche · 12/07/2013 17:25

I also clarified that I meant no offence but was checking they are just HCA's and not nurses or Doctors if you care to reread.

You sound charming. Are you sure this isn't the pot calling the kettle black? Hmm

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CaptainJamesTKirk · 12/07/2013 17:21

CQC because they put you down for MWLC rather than CLC and when you corrected them they corrected it?! I'm confused - start again... Are you back with CLC now? Is it because you were not seen at 8:30 by the anaesthetist? Maybe the anaesthetist was sick, maybe they were covering for another anaesthetist for whatever reason; maybe there was a woman in labour also allergic to certain pain relief and asthmatic but about to have a emcs?! Is it because they called you Mrs and you deliberately chose to pretend that couldn't possibly be you because you're a Ms?

Seriously OP read through your posts, can you not see how you are coming cross?

I'm sure they are very sorry you didn't receive the attention that you felt you deserved, that you found a HCA rude. But seriously... Do you know what goes on day in day out in the NHS? The CQC?! PALS yes! CQC - don't be absurd!

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MortifiedAdams · 12/07/2013 17:21

There were no other patients in the waiting room yet you didnt respond to Mrs YourSurname? Because you go by Ms?

Do you always make a point of being so obstinate?

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Queazy · 12/07/2013 17:19

Wow, you referred this to the CQC, even after they apologised and sorted it out. That does seem quite heavy handed but I respect this isn't the first concern you've had with the hospital.

As you said, 'end of', you've progressed it and bit late to hear advice or feedback on here.

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heidihole · 12/07/2013 17:19

I'd get a refund if I were you...

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Champagnebubble · 12/07/2013 17:17

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Panzee · 12/07/2013 17:16

Please read my post way up at the beginning. You have the power here, no need to worry about what the consultant thinks at this stage.

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BeckAndCall · 12/07/2013 17:14

I think you've lost all perspective here and need to take a breath.

You got the issue iof your care sorted out and are now certain you're on the consultant led care pathway.

You've been told why the anaesthetist was not ready and waiting for you.

You emailed and complained about the maternity assistants attitude. The hospital rang and apologised.

What more do you want to happen? Seriously - what do your think happens next?

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babyhmummy01 · 12/07/2013 17:10

they do and screwing up my care counts as crappy bedside manner. I was told to refer it to the CQC by a qualified nurse end of

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BeckAndCall · 12/07/2013 17:09

That is not what you said OP. you said ' I have referred this to the CQC as our hospital has a history of crappy bedside manner'. Top of this page.

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babyhmummy01 · 12/07/2013 17:05

I referred it due to the attitude and the cock up over my being CLC or MWLC not because of Mrs v Ms - will people please actually READ the thread instead of picking out what they think it says so they can flame me!

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BeckAndCall · 12/07/2013 17:03

I cannot believe you have referred this to the CQC because you were called Mrs instead of Ms.

Unbelievable over reaction. They are dealing with serious issues of sub standard care and dneglected patients and you're asking them to leave that aside and look at this? Words fail me.

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babyhmummy01 · 12/07/2013 16:59

try reading the rest of the thread Silver15

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Silver15 · 12/07/2013 16:56

Babyh, I think you are rude. You lost my sympathy with just HCA and also you should remember that even those who work in the NHS are human and experience emergencies that may mean they can not attend the appointment. Even robots crash.

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Ashoething · 12/07/2013 16:35

I don't blame you for being annoyed about the consultant but the Ms thing?-meh. I was told in my last pregnancy that I would be mwl care despite being classed as very high risk. I subsequently ended up in hospital with a bleed and threatened premature labour and I demanded to be put back under consultant care.

Put your complaint in writing and they will take it more seriously.

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