Weeing by the veg in Morrisons

[slp123]

Just wondered if what I saw today is usual. Little boy and his nan shopping, he needed a wee so she got the potty out if a plastic bag and sat him down next to the potatoes! I didnt see what she did at the end with the potty but I guess it had one those potty pads in.
Just wondered if this is usual/expected. My. DD sometimes sits on potty at home and so haven't really thought about having to go out with her when we do potty train fully but I did find it a bit strange- maybe that is just me though. The store toilet was just round the corner but maybe he wouldn't have been able to wait that long. As I say I am a novice to all of this.

[brettgirl2]

Oh for goodness sake get a grip. Tbh the lack of washing of many of the supermarket's customers who then TOUCH the fruit and veg is far more disturbing than a toddler having a wee. I cant believe how unsupportive so many people are being.

[bessie26]

flying if I really thought she was going to wee on the floor then yes, I would get the potty out, be it in the supermarket aisle or restaurant. I just hope we never find ourselves in that situation.

[NoseyNooNoo]

I think there is a bit of an over reaction here. If the boy was sat on the potty how would the wee spray end up on the potatoes? Surely he sprayed down not out!

There are comments about not taking a child out in pants if they are not potty trained. Some children, dare I say most, take more than a few days to train and therefore the whole family would be housebound for weeks or months if they had to stay in and putting the child in a nappy is just confusing matters.

I can see why the boy having a wee in the veg aisle was not ideal but I think there are some serious judgy-pants going on here - and don't you wash your veg before cooking them anyway?

[flyingintheattic]

You would really pull it out in the middle of the supermarket - how about a restaurant? I'm sure there was someone on here a few months ago telling people about how her kid had used the potty at the table in pizza hut .

Also, if your DD never has an accident how is she going to learn the consequences of not giving enough notice. If a DC is ready but forgets to tell you until it is NOW then getting wet reinforces the need to give notice.

As for germs, if it is your wee (or poo for that matter) that means the germs have already been in your body, so chances are if you were going to get sick you would be. We're talking about public food. For example, there are many cases of people getting sick from restaurants etc. where the outbreak has been traced to a member of staff who was not showing symptoms of the illness but had passed the germs onto someone who it did make sick.

[bessie26]

sidge I knew about the closing the lid when flushing thing, but I thought that was more to do with general toilet germs being flung up into the air, rather than specific wee ones?

Surely if having a wee released germs into the air, all men would be ill all the time? (perhaps this is how they catch such terrible man-flu?! )

Just to be clear, I agree that kiddies need to be able to give a suitable amount of warning before potty training will work, and that they need to learn how to hold it in. But, if I were anywhere with DD1 atm (we are on day 10) and she told me she needed a wee NOW I wouldn't hesitate to get the potty out. She would be everso upset if she got her beloved Peppa Pig pants wet & right now, ensuring that potty training is enjoyable is my main concern!

[NonnoMum]

I'd just like to add that my two week cystitis nearly caused me to pee in the veg aisle last week. If someone had offered me an adult-sized potty during the worst of it, I'd have gladly accepted.

But then they would have had to listen to me groan as I went.

[flyingintheattic]

bessie - That is in your own home nor near a public food source.

One of the key things recommended for successful potty training is a child can recognise and tell you when they need to go. If a child (without disabilities etc.) can recognise it but then needs to go immediately then potty training is going to be stressful on both the parents and the poor child, as they are likely going to wet themselves before getting to the potty/toilet. Waiting a few weeks/months till the child has a better sense of when they need to go will mean a much less stressful experience.

[Sidge]

It's actually quite important for a child to develop the skill of holding their urine in the bladder for a short time after getting the message that they need a wee. It helps to tone and strengthen the bladder.

bessie you should put the lid down when flushing to reduce spread of bacteria.

[BrawToken]

Bleurgh. That is minging. I know a few parents who carry potties everywhere - their kids are not ready and you are creating work for yourself would be my view.

[coccyx]

awful. get child to hang on for a minute while she takes him a short distance to toilet. Part of learning to use toilet is holding on until suitable place is found.
What next ? throw out the Tena ladies and piss on floor

[FlyMeToTheMooncup]

"If the child cannot hold it long enough to move the 30 secs to loo or even to a quiet corner of the store, then they are not old enough to be without pull ups and probably too young to be trained"

I agree.

Disclaimer, not talking about special cases like disability etc...

[bessie26]

flying if aerosols are produced, does that mean I should wear a mask when I do a wee?

For week 1 of potty training DD1 we kept the potty close by at all times, which meant having it in the kitchen at meal times. Now we're sure we're going to get a bit of warning (week 2) it's been moved to the loo. I'll have to make sure she can reliably hold it in for a couple of minutes before we venture out to our local (and large) supermarket for fear of offending anyone.

[Tenebrist]

Hi Lynette - you posted while I was writing. Yes, I don't think it's great to take a nappy off until the child is fully trained. The people I know who insisted on taking the nappy away from their DC before they're ready have ended up with monumental battles and endless soiled clothes. It's been horrible to watch. In one case the family had to take their child to a psychologist - they had just decided at 18 months she was going to go without nappies and told her off for any accidents.

Having said that, if a larger child ever wet themselves in public, of course any decent person would have nothing but sympathy. A close friend of DD1 had incontinence problems until she was 9 - she wore pull-ups at night and had one or two accidents in the daytime, which we helped sort out. That's a very different thing from weird toilet training of a toddler, and in her case it had nothing to do with her toilet training - there was a real underlying physical problem.

[Tenebrist]

What bizarre behaviour!

Why would you ever go out and about shopping (as opposed to your own garden) with a child who is not yet reliably dry, yet not put that child in a nappy/pull-ups? The child will presumably just get used to wetting its pants and the whole process then takes much longer, and is much more miserable for all concerned (talking about children here who otherwise have no medical problem). And yes, it's unhygenic to take a pee right next to vegetables for sale.

[LynetteScavo]

Who said anything about not going out without a nappy until old enough to hold it. I can't find that.

I never took a potty out with me...(actually I think I did on a long car journey with DD once. I wasn't sure then if you could stick a girl behind a bush) we just found a public loo. I'm beginning to wonder if my DC have G&T bladders.

[Mollymax]

It is another " hidden" disability though is'nt it?
If you saw my dd's , all who have bladder problems, you would not know.
So it is very easy to judge.
Mine have never wee'd by the veg aisle.

[Sidge]

I think if a child can't hold their wees long enough to get to a public toilet somewhere like a supermarket then they shouldn't be toilet training.

Using a potty near food is grim.

[flyingintheattic]

Also it is clear that this wasn't a on-off emergency.

[flyingintheattic]

Molly we are talking about kids without specialist problems and who are developmentally on target.

We are also talking about the appropriateness of the location. I'm sure most of us would agree that if your on the street and your kid needs to go, then you go.

[Desiderata]

We're not spouting crap, Molly.

We just don't have kids with incontinence problems.

[mum23girlys]

When my husband was in his teens he worked in our local coop and a guy came in with his son who needed the toilet. He pulled a cardboard box off a shelf, placed it on the floor and then let his son pee on it. I actually know the man in question and always have a giggle to myself when I see him.

[Mollymax]

By reading this thread I can tell the majority of you have not got children with continence/ bladder problems.
If you had you would not be spouting crap about not going out without a nappy until old enough to hold it.
If that was the case my 10 year old dd would not be allowed out.

[Desiderata]

Not something I would do, tbh.

DS just did it naturally (with a lot of nagging). He didn't even have a potty, as I recall.

No wonder the world's going to potty.

[emmanumber3]

I have never taken a potty out of the house with me. Both DSs used public toilets and, OK, this did involve several high speed dashes to the nearest convenience BUT I would much rather that than let my child sit on a potty amongst the veg at Morrisons .