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June 2013 - the terrible twos aren't so terrible

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Biscuitswithtea · 24/10/2015 15:54

Here goes with a new thread!

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Raeside · 18/04/2017 08:52

Ty!

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NoWordForFluffy · 18/04/2017 08:12
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Raeside · 18/04/2017 07:37

Where?!

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Sunbeam18 · 17/04/2017 23:15

New thread now LIVE!

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HungryHorace · 16/04/2017 13:43

Yeah. I want to name change too. Need to remember my password though!

Can someone keeping their name start the new one?

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cuphat · 16/04/2017 11:36

Good idea. Time for a nc I think (in case you wonder who the new person is!).

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Biscuitswithtea · 16/04/2017 10:55

Yes, a new thread is a good idea. With no mention of ages!

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BeanCalledPickle · 16/04/2017 09:57

I think we should have a new thread just because one about terrible twos seems pretty redundant now! Though the next one will probably take us up to their eighth birthday!

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Sunbeam18 · 16/04/2017 09:43

Ooo, is it Tuesday? Good luck to everyone!

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HungryHorace · 16/04/2017 08:57

Should we be starting a new thread before we get the school places confirmed on Tuesday?! 😁

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Sunbeam18 · 15/04/2017 19:18

My sister's kids' school nursery didn't deal with toilet accidents and phoned the parents to come and deal with any accidents!

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Biscuitswithtea · 15/04/2017 14:56

Yikes Bean! Am very glad that we don't start school proper until 5 in Scotland!! We'd be stuffed otherwise!

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Biscuitswithtea · 15/04/2017 14:54

That's good Hungry.
Ours used to/normally is similar; we get parcels of dirty clothes.

I think the issue for us boils down to too many staff changes recently and DS is shy with folk for ages before he is confident with them. And I suspect the conversations that we do have with his keyworker don't get communicated to other staff.

I will see how things go Tues/Wed this week coming and if there appears to be any more issues then will request a meeting so that we can discuss it sensibly out of DS's earshot.

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BeanCalledPickle · 15/04/2017 14:42

Nursery is generally fine with the toilet issue. If she'd said something or they had detected it then there would be no problem. However she just hid to avoid detection! It's school I really worry about because, as you say, they are so very small!

Was having a curry with someone with a reception age child. Her kid was distracted playing and did a poo. The school called her mother who was an hour away to come and take her home and then told her she couldn't come back for two days as it was diarrhoea! It wasn't. It was just a bloody accident.

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HungryHorace · 15/04/2017 14:35

Reading about these issues really makes me so glad that we chose the preschool we did. They're so good with the kids and toilet training, and will remind them / take them / clean them up (if pants / knickers are beyond a wash, they'll bin them and bag the bottoms up then tell the parent on collection).

DD has been quite slow to start training, but hasn't had too many problems really. She also doesn't like to stop playing to go, then gets stranded, jiggling, on the spot when she's then desperate to go!

I hope the school is good with them about it. They're still so young (especially our summer-born bunch) and still need help.

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Biscuitswithtea · 15/04/2017 11:32

Thanks Sunny. It is the private one.
There has been a colossal amount of staffing changes coinciding with the colossal expansion.

But the day to day welfare of the children shouldn't be getting lost in all that 🙁

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SunnyL · 15/04/2017 11:11

Biscuits my family are friends with the owner of your nursery (if it's your private one not the school one) - I think she'd be devastated to know the workers weren't being diligent enough. Definitely push them - it's a private nursery so you are the client. It's also under a serious expansion recently so can't afford bad press

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Biscuitswithtea · 15/04/2017 04:40

It surprises me too, but I suppose when they are outdoors it is diluted a bit!
I am also surprised that wet trousers aren't spotted, though again outdoors things probably dry quite quickly...

It doesn't happen every day, but it is undeniably a bit sloppy on their part

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Sunbeam18 · 14/04/2017 22:57

Seems a bit odd that a nursery worker wouldn't notice that a child in their care had poo pants - the smell alone is a bit of a clue!

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BeanCalledPickle · 14/04/2017 22:14

Up and down here as well. And exactly the same now there is more outside play as there is only one outside toilet but three inside. She came home with pants full of poo because there was a queue for the loo and she didn't know how to jump it, and then after she has done it she was too embarrassed to say anything.

When at home she's fine because she is always reminded. Nursery do remind her but her key worker says that she will often put her hands over her ears and run away such is her embarrassment.

I do hope this passes before school. The stories I've heard about teachers not helping when there is an accident were absolutely horrifying. I really don't want her being in that environment. I don't think any of this is unusual for their age. I hate the fact that teachers apparently won't be helping out when there is a problem.

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Biscuitswithtea · 14/04/2017 20:30

Hmmm. I am inclined to agree Sunbeam. And, as I think about it more, we can't assume there is an actual physical problem (I don't really think there is, he is just a bit shy and cautious) and go traipsing to the doctor when nursery aren't being vigilant about whether he is soiled or not. It would be different if he was at home all the time, and these issues were still occurring...

Poor DS. If we need to have another conversation with the nursery about it then I might try and arrange a meeting. I don't really want DS to feel that it is a big deal.

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Sunbeam18 · 14/04/2017 14:44

I'd say private nursery should be taking your lead on this and supporting him as much as he needs with reminders.

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Biscuitswithtea · 14/04/2017 12:45

Nursery have been frustrating.
DS fluctuates between being reliable with toileting and needing a gentle reminder. His awareness is so much better than it was, he IS getting there, but it is slow.

So whenever there is a little regression (like the past week) then they don't seem to communicate very well between themselves that DS needs to be kept an eye on.

They seem genuinely surprised when we say that he has come home in (not recently) soiled clothes.

He doesn't start school nursery until mid/late August. I see no reason for it not to be sorted by then

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Sunbeam18 · 14/04/2017 12:24

Biscuits, I think our nursery (school nursery) does now expect them to go to the toilet themselves; well, the ones that started last autumn anyway. I'm not sure what you are supposed to do if they are not ready though - what do the nursery suggest?

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Biscuitswithtea · 13/04/2017 21:34

He can hold onto his wee, so I don't think that's the issue. I think it is part not wanting to stop what he's doing until the last minute, part being too shy/unsure who to tell at nursery if he has an accident (accidents have ramped up since they started playing outside more)

He also has a cough at the moment and that's probably making things tricky too

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