Too Many Cuts...come join the #Frothers and have your say

[AnyFuckerForAMincePie]

This is the 3rd thread in a series.

It is for people who are horrified, frustrated and downright sad at the erosion of human rights with respect to how this country is being run, just now and in the recent past

it is apolitical in nature, but of course due to many recent initiatives by the recent govt, there will be rants against our current "leaders"

please join in

I shall post the link to the old threads, our "Too Many Cuts #Frothers" blog that is attracting a lot of widespread attention and a little bit of what we are about in a moment

[AnyFuckerForAMincePie]

< sobs along with kate >

[TheMouseRanUpTheClock]

We as a country should take care of our most vounerable, how very to hear about the hol and disabled children's benefits.

[KateFrothers]

I've just read an email with an attached blog post from someone who was going to contribute to the blog. She's not going to post now because her situation is precarious (sorry that's all so cryptic).

She is going to be bringing her disabled child home and I couldn't tell her that our government have just voted not to protect benefits for disabled children. I couldn't piss on her victory with such awful, depressing news.

I am literally weeping for her and her family and others like her. This is just so awful and so, so wrong.

[gallicgreetings]

I tweeted a couple of MPs too.

Ssoooooooo wrong.

[CardyMow]

FUCKERS. That is all.

[carernotasaint]

Thanks Gallicgirl. I also hope your okay Glitter. What a bunch of bastards they are.

[Glitterknickaz]

Yeah, it's the cuts stuff plus family stuff, I'll be fine x

[TeWiharaMeriKirihimete]

That's fine Glitter - hope you're okay.

[AnyFuckerForAMincePie]

you ok, glitter ?

[blackoutthexmaslights]

you know what this country is getting beyond a fucking joke now

[AnyFuckerForAMincePie]

Have just commented on a couple of frother Blog posts

[KateFrothers]

Oh ffs!

HoL just voted against guaranteeing disabled children's benefits at minimum of current level. In what world is that right when Vodaphone, Boots and others don't pay proper tax on all the money they earn in UK?!

[Glitterknickaz]

I'll finish the blog post tomorrow morning. I'm too upset tonight (not just this issue, personal stuff).

[gallicgirl]

www.boycottworkfare.org/

[carernotasaint]

Sorry if my last post doesnt make much sense. I tried to do a link but i messed it up and it ended up in the middle of my post.

[carernotasaint]

OMFG Look at the latest post on boycott workfare. Someone did 4 weeks unpaid work back in May and now just seven months later they want them to do it again this time for SIX MONTHS. Im with Huntycat on this. I would not do workfare again either.
I cant speak for Huntycat but i would rather enter the sex industry than do twww.boycottworkfare.org/hat which is what my original thread was about. Ive done sex chatline work in the past. Id rather go back to that or something else in the same industry than ever do workfare again. The sex chatline work was ten years ago and i got into that after they tried to get me to do work for your dole in a soup factory. You should have seen their faces when i signed off and told them what job i was going to.
Then another jobcentre clerk told me that loads of women had signed off to go into the sex industry.
I really think a body like the Joseph Rowntree foundation should do a study on this. On how many people enter the sex industry after being totally demoralized by workfare.

[TeWiharaMeriKirihimete]

Yes glitterz - keep writing, there is still more debate to go.

[gallicgirl]

Just seen tweet about CTAX so came over here to see what went on.

Someone suggested that even the unemployed might have to pay 25% of their CTAX. I sincerely hope this isn't true because when councils have continued to try and collect outstanding community charge, it was mostly all those 25%s from the unemployed that were uncollectable.

However, I read the consultation paper on CTAX changes and although I remember seeing the responsibility for CTB being handed over to LAs, I don't recall seeing anything which suggested LAs would then have the authority to cap the amount of CTB for those who are eligible. It just wouldn't be able to be collected.

[Glitterknickaz]

Do you want me to continue with the blog given that the Lords have voted for the cuts?

[TeWiharaMeriKirihimete]

hmm, more like a week then, to go back to commons and then they will have to debate the changes.

Delays are always good though imo. More time to make noise and it means we can keep talking to MPs about this so they support the amendments we like (and add more) at the consideration of amendments stage.

[TimeForChristmasSpirit]

This explains the passage of a bill www.parliament.uk/about/how/laws/passage-bill/commons/coms-lords-third-reading/ It has to go to a 3rd reading after the report stage.

[TeWiharaMeriKirihimete]

so 2 days for them to agree which amendments to put through and send back to commons?

[TimeForChristmasSpirit]

According to services.parliament.uk/bills/2010-11/welfarereform/stages.html It is back with the Lords on the 14th December.

[TeWiharaMeriKirihimete]

No I was a bit about that - even a total of one year would be split into 3mths, 6 mths, 3 mths... long time to sleep on a friend's sofa (if they'll have you)

BUT hopefully enough other stuff will have been changed that it would be very rare for it to come to that. I bloody hope so anyway.

[RudolphthePinkNosedReindeer]

That does look promising Te.

I joined Twitter a few weeks back and followed Lord Sugar for fun. He is against the WRA and retweets things he thinks worthwhile. Now I have mislaid password etc so I can't do it, plus my tweet understanding is rudimentary, just wondered if it might be a thought for those more au fait.