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Too Many Cuts...come join the #Frothers and have your say

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 07/12/2011 21:23

This is the 3rd thread in a series.

It is for people who are horrified, frustrated and downright sad at the erosion of human rights with respect to how this country is being run, just now and in the recent past

it is apolitical in nature, but of course due to many recent initiatives by the recent govt, there will be rants against our current "leaders"

please join in

I shall post the link to the old threads, our "Too Many Cuts #Frothers" blog that is attracting a lot of widespread attention and a little bit of what we are about in a moment

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GrumpyCrossPatch · 07/12/2011 22:34

Thanks ShirleyKnot - am a bit of a technophobe! Will start working on some thoughts.

More things I am worried about:

Legal loophole allows UK banks to underwrite £250 million in bonds for cluster bomb manufacturers.
British made CS gas being used in Egypt.
London 2012 - huge amounts of cash spent, taxed from the whole nation. Any cash brought in - Londoncentric.

I know they're not strictly cuts stuff but 1&2 are double bloody standards - it's ok to commit crime if you're a wealthy crony and only Johnnie Foreigner gets hurt...

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 07/12/2011 22:33

oops, sorry, chicken, I am chatting to you on the WorkFare thread

didn't realise you were already here...

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FontSnob · 07/12/2011 22:30

Stat update

Pageviews today 1,323
Pageviews yesterday 1,304
Pageviews last month 5,091
Pageviews all time history 5,091

The AIBU threads are getting us a good couple of hundred views.

CardyMow · 07/12/2011 22:27

I'm having a few days break from actively frothing due to RL, but I am still keeping up with the thread. I have started to write a blog post about ESA and the rules for the terminally ill, but it may take me a few days. Blooming busy week, what with school things and stuff.

Plus, I MUST get an early night! If you see me on here after 11pm - tell me to go to bed please. .

ChickenLickn · 07/12/2011 22:26

The government's own advisory committee on workfare was very clear: "We recommend that mandatory work activity does not proceed."

They are not even taking their own advice.

The report of the Social Security Advisory Committee made under section 174(2) of the social security administration act 1992 on the Jobseekers Allowance (Mandatory work activity) regulations 2011

Hullygully · 07/12/2011 22:24

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 07/12/2011 22:20

there are mince pies too

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AngryMum123 · 07/12/2011 22:19

thanks AnyFuckerForAMincePie (yes please if you're offering btw!) couldn't find it...will look again though...

we could go to downing street to froth, we could march, we could hold ed miliband accountable that he supports the frothers - as he said in his webchat..

@ LoremIpsum - the govt here can't lose anymore support than they've already lost....great points though

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 07/12/2011 22:17

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FontSnob · 07/12/2011 22:15

I'm trying to get GaryBarlow to RT....not going so well so far. Humpf.

ShirleyKnot · 07/12/2011 22:14

Grumpy - welcome to the horrible anger. It's tough and we all urge one another to take to break when it gets too much...

however - A post from an NHS front line worker would be incredible - I would be happy to help you, PM me (

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 07/12/2011 22:13

Lorem, that Aus comparison is very interesting

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 07/12/2011 22:12

Angry I think it is on the MN bloggers network, can't swear to it though

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 07/12/2011 22:11

grumpy sounds good

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LoremIpsum · 07/12/2011 22:11

Watching from down here, there are three things that have stopped Australia going the same way as the UK is right now. Mining is one of them, but a smaller element once you look at the actual figures than you'd think. The second is that we retained a Labor govt by the skin of our teeth. Wherever you stand ideologically, it's recorded fact that the Australian version of the Tories are champing at the bit to copy the actions seen in the UK for purely ideological reasons. Thirdly and most importantly, we have greater banking regulations and didn't face a bail out, but the governments main tactic when the GFC hit was to pump money into the economy not to take it away. Essentially, they went the Keynesian way.

All of that is a long winded way of saying that Tina is a lie - there are plenty of alternatives. The only reason for the government to pretend there are no other options is that admitting they making ideological choices would soon lose them support and would expose the heaping of blame on the already vulnerable for the pack of lies it is.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 07/12/2011 22:10

welcome to us all, old and new

my Sky is playing up like a bastard tonight, so please, anyone that can post useful links to guide new frothers at the beginning of our shiney new thread here, please go for it

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AngryMum123 · 07/12/2011 22:10

quick question before i go to bed - is the blog on the mn bloggers network? that way it can be shared and linked to by others and more people can froth....

Scarletbanner · 07/12/2011 22:10

Sounds great, grumpy

blackoutthexmaslights · 07/12/2011 22:09

grumpy that would be great

have decided that i'm no good at this blogging stuff, it just ends up ranty and sweary and a few choice words about poohead dave

GrumpyCrossPatch · 07/12/2011 22:05

Evenin' all.

After introducing myself last night it has taken me all say to catch up with all the frothing!

Things frothed over today:

Survey of social attitudes from 2009 saying 25% of the population think that unemployment is due to laziness is news today. Why? What's the agenda?

40% of cancer is due to general fecklessness.

The introduction of the quality indicators when waiting lists are going up and granny is waiting on a trolley in A&E for 2 days. It's as if the last 13 years got wiped out almost overnight. I never thought I'd have to work like this again (A&E staff). Daily dread of going to a job I love as I face the completely appropriate outrage of patients and their relatives. Problem is, I can't fix it...

V. cross. Have also been catching up with the blog,

at CSA and I admit I didn't really grasp the whole ESA/JSA gap.

Would like to write a piece for the blog explaining why thr Health and Social Care Bill is such a bloody travesty, if that is of any use. Will take some work to break down all the issues into non health care worker digestible chunks though.

Meglet · 07/12/2011 22:04

Signing in.

Have been writing letters. The angrier I get the better they are .

lubeybaublely · 07/12/2011 22:03

More on workfare - suggesting it's been known for some time as well as the other problems and hideous injustices, it's counterproductive and reduces chances of long term employment

eoin-clarke.blogspot.com/2011/12/shocker-government-research-concluded.html

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ChristinedePizanne · 07/12/2011 22:02

I'm in of course. I am a bit snowed this week but would like to do something a bit more useful. I have a bit of an idea but will need to think on it a bit

AngryMum123 · 07/12/2011 22:02

hi, can i froth with all you all please? so impressed with this so far....

two points that are worth considering - introduction of universal credit which according to IFS will hit lone parents the worse www.ifs.org.uk/bns/bn116.pdf

also legal aid planned to not be available for those who need it the most

ShirleyKnot · 07/12/2011 22:00

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