Too Many Cuts...come join the #Frothers and have your say

[AnyFuckerForAMincePie]

This is the 3rd thread in a series.

It is for people who are horrified, frustrated and downright sad at the erosion of human rights with respect to how this country is being run, just now and in the recent past

it is apolitical in nature, but of course due to many recent initiatives by the recent govt, there will be rants against our current "leaders"

please join in

I shall post the link to the old threads, our "Too Many Cuts #Frothers" blog that is attracting a lot of widespread attention and a little bit of what we are about in a moment

[KateMiddlet0n]

Yes but please put the blog, facebook and twitter hashtag in the OP.

Perhaps Oh Come All Ye Faithful, Frothy and Triumphant ?

It would be nice to attract some of those who posted on, the first thread.

[TeWiharaMeriKirihimete]

g'wan then Hunty you do it!

[TeWiharaMeriKirihimete]

Is there anything I can do today btw? I am locked in th house (long story!) and DD is ill so available to help.

[CardyMow]

Can I start the new thread, can I, can I? I have a Christmas-themed title -

"I'm dreaming of a frothy Christmas".

Gwan, letme, letme, letme!!

[TeWiharaMeriKirihimete]

I agree Hunty - they have no intention of telling anyone until the deal is done, and the press don't seem to give a shit.

Obviously the poor and the ones being most heavily plastered here, but the figures for still being eligible for childcare element WTC (equivalent) are really low - masses and masses of people who might assume this is nothing to do with them are going to get a nasty shock.

I can see exactly why this and the sure start closures are going to push hundreds of thousands more children into poverty.

[CardyMow]

Oh - and the reason most people don't know about this? Because it's not as if the media are being very forthright about the truth of UC, and most on benefits don't buy newspapers or watch the news. If your TV viewing consists of CBeebies, and you don't read the papers, and you aren't even online - how the hell are you MEANT to know?

And it's not as if the DWP are telling us either. I am in receipt of Child Tax Credit, Housing Benefit and Income Support. I have not had any letters telling me about the changes - I assume we will get no information AT ALL sent out to us until the WRB has been passed. And it won't be until then, when it is too late, that people will REALLY start shouting.

But that's a good way to prevent people from campaigning against the changes to the benefit system - keeping them uninformed until it is too late...

[KateMiddlet0n]

Hello everyone. I did have a look in earlier but due to mammoth thread I couldn't write a message very easily on the phone.

Nearly time for a new thread!

[CardyMow]

Am here for a short time. Couldn't cope with any more frothing last night - was pre-menstrual and very stabby, first one in over 18 months...

I am going to try to do something with the maths later, maybe a couple of TC vs. UC calculations for someone with dc with disabilities, few different permutations, I'll see what I can do.

On the Blog post about (normal) TC's vs UC, it may take a while - there's soooo many permutations of things, that it gets a bit complex, and there'll always be a few situations that I haven't covered...I am wondering if maybe I can use that keep and share thing to put up as many calculations as I can, and start a seperate thread with a link or something?

That way, it can be seen by more people. And people can go on the thread or PM me details, and I can do personal calcs if need be. I don't advise it though. It'll scare you shitless. I have tried to bleach my brain of my own...

[MmeLindor.]

Just noticed that we are just over 650 hits from 10 000 hits

Can we break through today?

[Glitterknickaz]

thank you Avadvent

[AvadventKalendar]

Am rting to everyone on the link I posted bottom of page 18 about the EDCM but also with frothers hashtag.

[MmeLindor.]

Yes, I did. The Monbiot story. Very interesting read about the motives of the press.

Lots of RTing going on thanks to India Knight.

[MmeLindor.]

Did I link to the thing about the newspapers?

[Glitterknickaz]

That's fabulous, mme.
Now I have nina's twitter I've managed to say thanks

[MmeLindor.]

I have tweeted Nina Lakhani.

India Knight already RTed.

[Glitterknickaz]

Mme Lindor the Indy article I did the interview for?
Contact a Family contacted every paper out there, television news. The Indy was the only one that picked it up.

The media don't want to know.

[MmeLindor.]

Have tweeted India Knights, she is good on stuff like this.

What about the journos who have written about this already?

[Glitterknickaz]

The really scary thing is that due to right wing press public perception of benefit fraud is that it costs this country 19 TIMES what it actually costs. Now £1billion is a lot of money to lose via fraud, but it's not the £19 billion the negative press has made many people believe it is.

I agree that benefit fraud has to be combatted, but this cut won't do anything to solve that. All it will do is make my family and families like mine struggle.

[AvadventKalendar]

list of celebs and which parties they support, worth targetting?

[AvadventKalendar]

Marking my place as I get lost as this thread goes so fast!

Just noticed someone tweeted to Eddie Izzard - I know he is interested/involved in politics, as is Kirstie Allsopp so I have tweeted her - anyone know any other high profile celebs who are active in politics who we can harangue?? Regardless of their actual political stance.

[RatherBeOnTheMulledWine]

excellent post Glitterknickaz.

I think categorising blog posts would be an excellent step - it would make it easier to use, especially as time goes on.

[FontSnob]

Hi all,we need to start to organise the blog so that articles can be found easily, am just trying to find some info to pass onto a friend and with the titles it is hard to know what info is what iyswim. Can we catagorise the blog posts? Great entries everyone.

Also, Hunty why don't people know anything about the changes and introduction to UC? I have a single parent friend who will, i presume, be hit by these changes but she know nothing about them. How is that possible?

[TeWiharaMeriKirihimete]

Are any of us journalists?

I think it's the passion that matters.

[AnyFuckerForAMincePie]

It was fine. We are not all journalists. I have no background in writing for public consumption (probably evidenced by my own contribution )

All voices are equally relevant

[Glitterknickaz]

It wasn't the best, particularly as I had other stuff going on at the time. I had to do it though. To not do it I would feel I was letting my kids down.