Multiple women and injected with needles

[Greydaysandrainbows]

Apparently this is the ‘new’ version of spiking someone’s drinks and it’s frightening happening at night clubs all across the country.

Multiple women collapsing and can’t use their legs and dizzy etc many mums on the university Facebook page in on are reporting their daughters being injected. It’s not in the press yet although I think from reading the posts there might have been an article in a Scottish paper this weekend.

Not only the worry about what they are being injected with, if the needles are clean and why they are being attacked - just aggressive, to spread fear or to incapacitate these women why someone assaults them? No idea. Women are refusing to go to clubs.

Apparently many have had negative experiences when their friends have been stabbed thinking they are drunk instead.

I have no first hand experience of this - but there is a petition to get people searched prior to going into clubs - I’d like technology to go further and these men to have to produce ID to buy a drink and an address which is logged / for admission but I thinking calling for proper searches is a good way to go
Heres the petition

petition.parliament.uk/signatures/119742882/signed

[Bagelsandbrie]

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/feminism/4377161-Female-students-are-being-injected-now-with-date-rape-drugs-in-nightclubs

[peachescariad]

@faithfulbird20

Just stop going to nightclubs

Pathetic, useless comment....if you can't offer anything constructive get off here

[LIZS]

Report on bbc today. Yvette Cooper seems to be speaking out to back action.

[WinterTrees]

@faithfulbird20

Just stop going to nightclubs

Seriously??

Would that advice be just to women, or to men too? Can you see any problems with it?

[faithfulbird20]

Just stop going to nightclubs

[RedJet22]

This true and its happening. I have 3 adult "kids at unis across the UK. 2 x 3rd year students in Manchester and Nottingham. Drink spiking was a serious problem 2 years ago when they were in year 1, 2019 just before Covid hit.
Both experienced friends being spiked through drinks then and now but now jabbing seems to be on the increase.
Roll forward to Autumn 2021 all 3 of my kids again have first hand seen a friend get spiked. My son at 1st year at Bristol helped a female flat mate get to A&E just last weekend. They suspect she was jabbed, "they" being the hospital.
My 2 daughters in Manchester and Nottingham also know people who have been spiked in the past few weekends. Nottingham, seems rife for the jabbing Daughter was out in a huge crowd where 2 girls behavior radically changed, one collapsing and needing hospital treatment.
She hadnt had a drink since leaving her student house 2 hours earlier, so again, jabbing is suspected and she is being treated medically and prophylacticly as if she has been injected. A certain very popular night club in Nottingham seems oblivious to the problem, with victim blaming and treating victims as self inflicted drunks and not victims of assault/drugging.

It sounds like an urban myth but sadly it's not.

[Kinneddar]

My niece got very upset at the idea people don't believe this is true. It's very real and it's been an ordeal for her & us as a family.

She also has the worry of tests and injections over the coming months to ensure nothing has been passed on to her

[Noeuf]

Ok so we are talking at cross purposes. I do think spiking happens. I don’t think injecting people is happening as widely as reported on social media. Where we seem to disagree is that I don’t think everyone thinking they’ve been spiked is accurate (not lying) as it’s easy to over estimate tolerance to drinking.

[WinterTrees]

I'm not suggesting that injecting is widespread (yet...) The fact that it is happening at all is very bloody disturbing.

Spiking definitely is widespread, and I don't think it's fair to suggest that young women commonly make false claims as an excuse for getting drunk. It's hard enough for women to be believed anyway without letting that narrative take hold.

[Noeuf]

WinterTrees I disagree. I’m not convinced that across the country there’s an outbreak of women being injected. It would be either a bizarre coincidence or a hugely orchestrated move. Im
not disbelieving spiking or that this has happened somewhere.

[Doesabear]

Happened to my DS's (male) friend in Sheffield too.

[WinterTrees]

@Noeuf

I don’t know what I think about how extensive it is. Uni is full of people new to drinking and it’s very easy to claim spiking if you didn’t know your limits / want to believe it wasn’t you that just drank too much.
I do believe there’s been some injecting but I’m not convinced it’s widespread. I do have uni age / uni attending kids, just a bit wary of this at the moment.

With respect, that sounds like a variation on the line of 'she just had regrets the next morning and cried rape', from the days when we assumed that women made that up too.

My daughter was spiked in a friend's uni flat at pre-drinks. It was her first drink of the evening, and the scary thing was that there were only about 20 people there so it wasn't done by a stranger but by someone in her social circle. She didn't report it to the police - what would be the point? She got herself home and there were no serious longterm consequences, so the police would have done absolutely nothing. I imagine that the vast majority of young women feel the same, so how would anyone know how widespread it is? Official stats on this must be a drop in the ocean.

[Atalune]

What’s the motivation of doing it?

[Noeuf]

I don’t know what I think about how extensive it is. Uni is full of people new to drinking and it’s very easy to claim spiking if you didn’t know your limits / want to believe it wasn’t you that just drank too much.
I do believe there’s been some injecting but I’m not convinced it’s widespread. I do have uni age / uni attending kids, just a bit wary of this at the moment.

[MarshmallowSwede]

It’s a real story

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/20/home-office-intervenes-over-spate-of-alleged-spikings-on-nights-out

[Cwenthryth]

Bumping

[WinterTrees]

peachescariad I totally get your fear. Spiking has certainly become far more widespread over the last few years. It was barely on my radar when my oldest started uni in 2013, but it was a serious concern for my youngest in freshers' week a couple of years ago, to the extent that I looked into what was available to protect young women against it. Online searches turned up various wristbands and straws that changed colour in the presence of drugs, but they weren't properly tested or easily available and it just brought it home to me what a low priority women's safety is. It's staggering and enraging.

I think putting pressure on clubs and pubs is a good approach to take. I'd like to see them take more responsibility, because at the moment it seems that they just accept it as something that happens. Also just talking to your daughter about it and making sure she's aware (I'm sure she will be) so that if she feels ill she knows to get help straight away. When my daughter was spiked she knew as soon as she started to feel nauseous, having only had one drink, that something wasn't right and was able to tell and friend who got her home safely. It sounds like this hasn't been possible for the young women who have been injected though.

[andyoldlabour]

Here are other articles about it.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-58951716

inews.co.uk/news/uk/women-spiked-by-injection-nightclubs-spark-panic-claims-nottingham-scotland-drink-1255434

[peachescariad]

@WinterTrees

I'm aware of this happening too OP. I first heard about it when I got the petition notification from change.org but I have 2 of my 20 something daughters home this weekend and they mentioned it too. One is at university in one of the towns mentioned - it is definitely happening and the fact that the mainstream media aren't reporting it is ridiculous (we sat through a good 5 minutes of the 10 o'clock news the other night about the bloody new Adele single - like that's news.) I can supply links to social media posts with photos too.

It's a shame that people on a parenting forum are reluctant to believe young women when they speak about what's happening. It's a shame that the police and nightclub security don't take it that seriously either. It's a shame that society in general has such a high level of tolerance for young women being drugged, assaulted, raped and worse that it's met with a shrug and 'where's the evidence', and that the authorities only bother to pretend to be interested when someone like Sarah Everard gets murdered in the horrific circumstances she did. (And when I say 'it's a shame' I mean it's fucking iniquitous.)

Thanks for posting the link to the petition OP. To anyone who reads this, EVEN if you don't believe the injections are happening, ask yourself if you're happy with the endemic levels of drink spiking going unchecked and apparently tolerated. If you've got daughters the vast likelihood is that it will happen to them - two out of three of mine have been spiked. It's terrifying and it's high time something was done to stop it.

My DD19 is going to a Brighton club for the first time very soon and I'm sick with worry....I've even emailed the club to ask what they are doing to increase security (if any) and how seriously do they take this issue.

[Kinneddar]

This happened to my niece at the weekend. She was ill for days and a doctor has confirmed she has a needle puncture mark on her skin

Shes had blood tests and is having to get injections to prevent potential hep b for months.

Shes been interviewed by several media outlets and the Police have been informed

It's not, as another thread on here dismissed it as, an urban myth

[BeBraverToday]

Signed

[Haveyoubrushedyourteethtoday]

Ahh, it must have been here that I heard the number 30 being referenced.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/19/police-investigate-reports-of-spiking-by-needle-at-nottingham-clubs

[Haveyoubrushedyourteethtoday]

more here

[Haveyoubrushedyourteethtoday]

@Mayorquimby2

Nightclubs all across the country you say?
But with absolutely no examples or references provided

I saw a news report this morning on bbc. I recall the quote ‘more than 30 pubs’

[GingerFoxInAT0phat]

I heard about this on R4 last night, glad it’s gaining traction now. What on earth is going on?!