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£30 ono table and chairs need gone asap.

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JoanThursday1972 · 14/03/2024 15:47

MUST GO TODAY! does a better job with fewer letters AND isn't garbage.

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TuesdayWhistler · 14/03/2024 16:01

I do t wish to be pedantic, but, "Must Go Today" is not the same as "Need Gone As Soon As Possible*

As soon as possible could be several days, especially if the table needs a van to move.

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NotTooOldPaul · 14/03/2024 16:04

This is not a comment on this post but a question. Why have I only discovered Pedants' corner today? I think I will really enjoy reading it and I wish I had discovered it sooner.

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Sgtmajormummy · 14/03/2024 16:08

Telegraphic text speak, innit.

It’s really only missing “They need to be gone” to make it correct.
And pretty common to see adds like this IME.

It’s an ungrammatical twist on phrases like “My house needs paintING (not needs paintED)”.

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FairisleFairy · 14/03/2024 16:10

Completely pointless words which make absolutely no difference to the speed at which someone will purchase.

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ASighMadeOfStone · 14/03/2024 17:29

Sgtmajormummy · 14/03/2024 16:08

Telegraphic text speak, innit.

It’s really only missing “They need to be gone” to make it correct.
And pretty common to see adds like this IME.

It’s an ungrammatical twist on phrases like “My house needs paintING (not needs paintED)”.

Unless you're one of the speakers (hiberno English generally) for whom it's a perfectly valid variant.

(Introduction to Sociolinguistics by Trudghill explains it nicely)

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ASighMadeOfStone · 14/03/2024 17:31

NotTooOldPaul · 14/03/2024 16:04

This is not a comment on this post but a question. Why have I only discovered Pedants' corner today? I think I will really enjoy reading it and I wish I had discovered it sooner.

Yes, there are some fabulously informative threads about language from years ago if you scroll down.

It's been dumbed down a lot in recent years and now tends to be full of people laughing at other people's SpaG (whilst invariably demonstrating in their own writing that they don't know nearly as much as they think they do)

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Sgtmajormummy · 14/03/2024 18:09

ASighMadeOfStone · 14/03/2024 17:29

Unless you're one of the speakers (hiberno English generally) for whom it's a perfectly valid variant.

(Introduction to Sociolinguistics by Trudghill explains it nicely)

I lived in Ireland 1979-1990. It wasn’t around then.

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TheChippendenSpook · 23/03/2024 12:09

Its not perfectly calid though. It doesn't make sense. What's happening to the little words?

'Of' is being taken out out of sentences and is being used where it shouldn't be used as well.

Should of/could of/would of is now used orally as well as written and is completely wrong, and 'of' is being taken out of out sentences such as 'it was only a couple of quid.'

Some people will think , 'it was only a couple quid,' is acceptable.

It isn't.

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/03/2024 12:13

£30 ono table and chairs - priced for quick sale

Not as snappy, perhaps.

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SevenSeasOfRhye · 23/03/2024 12:15

"Priced for quick sale" would be my preferred wording.

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upinaballoon · 23/03/2024 12:51

Lovely Jay on 'Repair Shop' says 'would of' instead of 'would have'. He's so nice and it's such a lovely programme so I don't like to notice it but I do !

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/03/2024 12:58

upinaballoon · 23/03/2024 12:51

Lovely Jay on 'Repair Shop' says 'would of' instead of 'would have'. He's so nice and it's such a lovely programme so I don't like to notice it but I do !

He's got very severe dyslexia, I believe. 'Would of', 'could of' and so on made more sense to me when people pointed out it's derived from spoken usage 'would've'/'could've', rather than directly from 'would have'/'could have'. There's already an elision there and then the vowel changes. Very jarring to see it in written English, though.

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upinaballoon · 23/03/2024 13:11

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/03/2024 12:58

He's got very severe dyslexia, I believe. 'Would of', 'could of' and so on made more sense to me when people pointed out it's derived from spoken usage 'would've'/'could've', rather than directly from 'would have'/'could have'. There's already an elision there and then the vowel changes. Very jarring to see it in written English, though.

Yes, I know he has been learning to read as an adult, or to read better. I saw the programme. That's one of the reasons why I call him Lovely Jay - not just the woodwork but the frank programme about his difficulties. I understand why people think it's 'of' because we say 'could've, should've et cetera,

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JoanThursday1972 · 25/03/2024 14:22

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/03/2024 12:58

He's got very severe dyslexia, I believe. 'Would of', 'could of' and so on made more sense to me when people pointed out it's derived from spoken usage 'would've'/'could've', rather than directly from 'would have'/'could have'. There's already an elision there and then the vowel changes. Very jarring to see it in written English, though.

You also get that with been/being, and seen/seeing. Where people don't sound a final 's' and would say "bein' there" has now morphed into this.

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