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Shall I choose my estate agent based on a punctuation error?

39 replies

milkwasabadchoice · 24/04/2013 13:29

Obviously it's not the only criteria, but the decision has come down to two agents. One has an "it's" on its website that should be an "its".

This seems to have tipped the scales in favour of the other agent.

Is this madness? It seems a bit mad, but if you can't bloody punctuate properly on your website, you are a tad crap, IMHO. What do you think?

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miffybun73 · 20/06/2013 21:53

Yes, I would.

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MirandaGoshawk · 09/05/2013 21:35

OP - I wouldn't use an estate agent that had spelling mistakes. Would drive me nuts.

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TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 07/05/2013 22:13

YANBU, OP. Yes, you should.

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starkadder · 06/05/2013 21:25

Ps definitely choose the grammatical EA

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starkadder · 06/05/2013 21:24

I say criterion too Smile. Never thought there was anything weird about that. I wouldn't go as far as saying "datum" or even "the data are" though.

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UniqueAndAmazing · 25/04/2013 14:27

"The question I was asking was, the op said 'it was not the only' implying there is more than one surely? "

This is not the only criterion
These are not the only criteria.

this is not the only baby
these are not the only babies.

it works in exactly the same way as all plurals.

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UniqueAndAmazing · 25/04/2013 14:26

one criterion - one condition, one necessary point.
criteria - two or more conditions or necessary points.
(like bedrooms is the plural of bedroom, criteria is the plural of criterion.)

In fact, maybe we should use more latin/greek/old english plurals - we might find that bloody apostrophe being used less.
Hmm

like brother/brethren, child/children, ox/oxen, stadium/stadia, criterion/criteria, datum/data

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GibberTheMonkey · 25/04/2013 13:27

Actually I do get it now by having a think but not because of this thread Grin

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GibberTheMonkey · 25/04/2013 13:23

The question I was asking was, the op said 'it was not the only' implying there is more than one surely?

That's why I was asking because we were then told the rule was criteria for plural and as I thought that was plural .
Never mind I don't understand it.

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Cooroo · 25/04/2013 12:45

GibberTheMonkey - originally (? Greek? have to look it up), 'criterion' meant one condition that has to be fulfilled, and 'criteria' meant many.

So the OP referred to punctuation being not the 'only criteria' and I made the point that that should be 'only criterion'.

Explanation offered because you said you wanted to know - but I wouldn't sweat about it!

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MirandaWest · 25/04/2013 07:54

I use criterion. But I can be a little pedantic Blush.

It would annoy me if an estate agency used it's when they meant its.

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streakybacon · 25/04/2013 07:52

I'm more surprised that you only found one error. Estate agents' particulars are usually littered with them.

dotty I'd have avoided that school too.

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GibberTheMonkey · 25/04/2013 07:49

Mehrida- bedrooms? No I was querying why criterium was correct over criteria. I don't know the rules (rubbish education, want to learn) but the rule that was given didn't seem to work for me.

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SconeRhymesWithGone · 24/04/2013 23:32

I use "criterion." Pedants' Corner is my favorite part of Mumsnet. Smile

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Cooroo · 24/04/2013 15:45

LOL at bunaglows.

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UniqueAndAmazing · 24/04/2013 15:35

and i think that internet forums is the acceptable (like mouses in computer speak rather than mice), but fora for all other areas of life. same as stadia etc.

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FunnysInLaJardin · 24/04/2013 15:33

I would chose my agent on the basis of whether I liked them and thought they would sell my house tbh, not whether they used it's or its

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UniqueAndAmazing · 24/04/2013 15:29

datum - of course that's in use too - except it's not normally used, because you usually have more than one.

you don't normally have one datum, you normally have several data.

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UniqueAndAmazing · 24/04/2013 15:28

of course people use criterion these days.
Hmm

I used it yesterday (twice!)

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Shodan · 24/04/2013 15:27

I'd think the same as you, OP.

In fact I stopped frequenting a bakery that restyled itself as a 'pattisserie' for the same reason- if they couldn't get their sign right, who knew what they might be getting wrong in their baking?

Tsk.

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Mehrida · 24/04/2013 15:26

Gibber are you asking about the bedroom's?

It just shouldn't have an apostrophe in there.

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dotty2 · 24/04/2013 15:20

oops - if I'm in pedants' corner, I suppose that should be 'its having a sign up'. Save the gerund!

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dotty2 · 24/04/2013 15:19

I ruled out a school on the grounds of it having a sign up saying 'when you've done something wrong, say your sorry'.

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GibberTheMonkey · 24/04/2013 15:15

If its not the only one then it's plural surely?
I love mn. I have learned more grammar on here than I ever did at school.

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Mehrida · 24/04/2013 15:14

I would absolutely judge an estate agent on their use of its.

PILs recently put their house on the market. Their estate agent mentioned that their house has two bedroom's.

I nearly passed out.

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