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Moving up a carseat?

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Saltytomato · 26/12/2012 11:18

My DS is 7 months old and weighs 10.5 kilos (23.5 pounds) and is in the 98th percentile for height. He is looking squished in his maxicosi cabrio, but is too young for the next one up, according to maxicosi he has to be 9 months. So what do I do?

I don't want to put him in a forward facing seat if he isn't ready, but am now starting to have to take his coat off before putting him in his carseat!

Please help?

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Afsana1 · 26/12/2012 23:01

Laggonhaze the statement you have given states 15kg that is 33lbs in weight. Nearly a of the rear facing infant carriers go to the limit of 13kg 29lbs. So by putting a child in a carseat for which you are exceeding the weight limit set by the manufacture is that safe? Also the weight limit for the forward facing carseat is 9kg 20lbs. If you read any material it will mostly state the wording 'approx' 'as a guide' not all children are the same. You can have a 8 month weighing 23llbs whereas some 10 months don't weigh even 20. Every child is different. The advice given by the people who work at any shop is through the manufactures directly as that is where the training is received from. As a parent I would not give wrong advice and put a child's life in danger.

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SecretSantaFix · 26/12/2012 23:02

Point 6, first paragraph

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lagoonhaze · 26/12/2012 23:05

The statement I have given is from Besafe who dont recommend forward facing until at least 2.5yrs. It is talking about comparing a child in a FF seat compared to an ERF seat. It doesnt say infant carrier.

I would like a reply to my question about the harness

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SecretSantaFix · 26/12/2012 23:07

The 9kg/20lb is the absolute minimum at which a child could be put forward facing and that is usually only recommended IF their head is out of the top of the seat and they are able to sit completely unsupported for closer to half an hour not 15 minutes.

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Afsana1 · 26/12/2012 23:16

Regarding the harness when you check the harness between the child with the 'two finger' check meaning you should be able to get two fingers between the harness and baby if the baby is too big and the harness is too tight to do up. Them how can that be safe in an impact? That harness would dig in to the child. Also I would like to point out these car seats have been tested at the minimum weight and so therefore that is why they have been recommended from that weight also considering the other points.
I was only trying to give advice for what was asked. I did not expect an attack from left right and centre. But thank you ladies xx

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lagoonhaze · 26/12/2012 23:19

You shouldn't be able up get two fingers in between the harness and baby. Thats the advice.

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Afsana1 · 26/12/2012 23:25

I do not know how to add link so if you go on the baby world website it states it there. You should not be able to get more than two fingers.
It's nearly half past eleven I've had a busy day so I'm going to bed. By all means carry in posting.

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lagoonhaze · 26/12/2012 23:32

You imply that you should be able to get two fingers in otherwise it's too tight. As long as it cab be done up it's fine. Getting one finger in is fine. At collarbone not chest. After all coats/bulky items taken off.

Ive seen 18 mths and 2 year old safely fit in infant carriers. A baby rarely outgrows them early but shops are keen for sales and appease parents.

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blondietinsellyminx · 26/12/2012 23:54

Rearfacing seats are approx 5 times safer, and compulsory up to the age of 4 in some European counties. They provide massively improved protection for toddler heads - read all about it here.

afsana no need to be defensive - it's not your fault your training hasn't been updated by Mothercare... Please please read this and I have copied this section in response to your previous post....
Q: "My child can sit unaided for at least 20 minutes and has outgrown the infant seat. Is this not the right time to turn him/her forward facing?"
A: Muscles control has got nothing to do with whether the child can cope in a forward facing car seat in an accident. The child's spine has not solidified and is soft. It might stretch and snap when the heavy head is flung forward in a collision. This is called internal decapitation. When rear facing, the child's body is caught by the back of the car seat and the head, neck and back are protected as the force of impact is distributed over the entire back area. The difference in force applied to the neck is staggering: 320kg when forward facing compared to 50kg when rear facing".

If you're on Facebook, search for "Rear Facing - the way forward" - loads of pics on there of various car seats and toddlers in them!

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Saltytomato · 27/12/2012 11:34

Wow. Thanks for all the new posts. Looks like he is going to stay in rear facing as long as possible. I didn't realise how unsafe forward facing ones are! That's just scary....

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JugsMcGee · 27/12/2012 14:11

My DS definitely outgrew his infant carrier lengthways before he was too heavy - there is a photo of him on that FB group that blondie mentions. I checked because I thought he was ok until the tops of his ears were level with the top of the seat but I was wrong. Hence we got a group 0+1 seat so he could stay RF for longer.

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BertieBotts · 28/12/2012 11:29

I think most of them outgrown in height first. You'd have to have either have a huge car seat or a child who was massively higher on the weight centiles than the height/length centiles.

As I said DS fitted comfortably in his by 18 months and would probably have fitted a bit longer but I had ordered the next seat and wanted to get the baby one out of the house.