How much do nursery workers earn?

[SidandAndyssextoy]

Just wondering if anyone could tell me what someone working in a London nursery might be earning per hour? And what hourly rate might tempt them to come and be a nanny?!

I've been told in my area that £8 net is the average wage for an inexperienced nanny. I've also been told that I will be told that all nannies are paid at least £10 net but this is not true.

I genuinely want to pay as much as I can afford so I'm being fair.

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Nannies around here def £10-12 net. £8 very low and would only tempt new/ unqualified/ new to England nannies imo

But she is unqualified. But she has childcare experience of course. I need to do sums. I know people locally who are paying £8 net so it can't be that unusual.

Nursery staff generally paid the minimum wage around here, so, that depends a bit on age, but £6.31 if over 21. Here

13-16k in my area. Though it can vary more than that.

Look on recruitment sites like www.greatcare.co.uk - may find some jobs in your area with salary offered.

The going rate for a qualified nanny was 10 an hour net and that was years ago (in London.)

Nannying is different, the job is a lot different, the hours of work for example can be very long, 50-60 a week is not unusual.

Post on the Childminders, Nannies board, plus read a lot of the threads on there, as you will need to know about how you go about employing a nanny and what the likely costs will be. Many nannies will be on £8-£12 gross per hour, with the employer having other costs on top, such as employers NI, mileage payments, activities budget, payroll admin.

I've done lots of reading already, which is how I came up with £8 net! I was actually given that figure by a couple of local nannies. But I will do my best to up that if it seems to be taking the piss.

Current hours of employment are 10.5 per day for three days with a very short lunch break taken on the premises. I'd want 10 hours per day but obviously no lunch break possible.

I really do appreciate the difference between being a nursery assistant and nannying, and why the move might not be attractive to her even with higher wages. I have other places to look if she's not up for it. I just don't want to blow it on money grounds. £10 net basically means I'm working for nothing myself, and I don't like my job enough for that to be an enticing prospect!

Don't forget all the extras you will need to factor in too like employers tax. Your bills will increase as she well be home during the day, extra food.

It's not employers tax, it's stamp isn't't it?

Yes, am figuring in those additional costs. Trust me, this is the final phase after lots of soul searching. I will be working shifts when I go back and my other half can't do a nursery drop off/pick up and work very easily as his working day is longer - previously we covered one end of the day each. Childminders have the same issue - and we don't really want the kids out of the house till after 7pm anyway.

I had a look on the site linked to just now. Not much in my area. One for an 'experienced' nanny for £9 net. A couple in the adjoining much posher area for £10-11, but most of the other positions there are live-in so no comparison to make.

£8 net is at the lower end of the going rate, but fine for someone new to nannying and coming from a nursery.

I'm a bit confused about why you've said she's not qualified though when earlier you said ' I think she may be level 3 but possibly just level 2' . Is she qualified or not?!

Sorry, of course she's qualified. I was thinking of Ofsted registered, which of course she wouldn't be yet. Sorry to talk nonsense.

Well, fingers crossed there's a way forward. The advice on here has been great, although I remain depressed by the wages some are earning. I forgot to say too that we will be offering more paid holiday than most would, which might help the hourly rate look a little better. And I'll do my sums and see where £8.50 might get us.

And when you make an offer, remember to offer a gross wage, not net, as you have no idea what her tax code is (or what tax and NI announcements will be made in the budget).

Sorry have you factored in all other extras? Sounds a bit salary focused which will tempt her but not keep her. Once she leaves, she might quickly widen her views. Have you ticked other boxes? Contracts? Holiday? Sickness? Etc....!

Yes £8.50 is low if net in London but super low if gross. The £9/10/12 per hour you see listed is net so what they get after tax

So £8.50 net will cost you around £12 per hour after tax and ni

An average £500 net per week wage of nanny actually costs employers approx £700-740 after paying tax, ni and employers ni

Yes, will be a gross offer. And yes, have thought of extras. Like I said, above average holiday for one thing. Also, niceness of us. We have rave reviews from previous employees. And we will support her if she wants to do additional training. More likely she won't want to, but will want to know that we won't leave her stranded when we don't need a nanny any more.

Why not just ask her what she is currently earning? She may simply tell you.

Work out what you can afford and offer less than that so there is room for a rise after probation, after 1 year etc.

Does she want to be a nanny, if so then she may take quite a low salary to get the experience. Be honest with her about how long you would need a nanny for, such as until youngest starts school. Would you switch to a childminder or afterschool club? Or keep nanny?

It can be anything from 2.68 for apprentice to about £7 for manager of a big nursery of about 50/60 places where I am.

That's the reasoning behind the £8 - it gives me somewhere to go. We are hoping to have a third so if that happens we will need her for at least three years. If not, at least two, as our youngest will only be one when she starts.

£2.68????!

Good luck OP, hope she says yes! Let's us know the out come

Thank you. At the moment I'm trying to find my contract to see how outrageous my actions would be.

The thing as a nanny that would put me off ( apart from low wage), is that you say 3 years max, 2 years if no other child.

Most nannies want long term positions and min 5 years IMO ( ie baby- school age). As the hassle of finding and settling in a job takes a while. I think it takes at least 1 year for everything to be ironed out, children 100% happy, everyone on same ideas etc, so to Leave after 2 years almost seems like a waste.
Would you not need someone to cover holidays/ sickness etc?